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ayanami_tard
post Sep 17 2013, 08:34 AM

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for long range, TUDM has been given the responsibility (with their Sukhois and MiG),while GAPU handles the short range.

question now about whose handling in between
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post Sep 17 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 17 2013, 08:34 AM)
for long range, TUDM has been given the responsibility (with their Sukhois and MiG),while GAPU handles the short range.

question now about whose handling in between
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Short range SAM - Jernas, MANPADs
Medium/long range SAM - Future KS-1A?
Long Range air asset - Fighters, Interceptors

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KS-1 Mobile launcher

Honestly, is chinese stuff any good? hmm.gif
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post Sep 17 2013, 02:52 PM

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wz-10 wikipedia page are too long and exhaustive.. like written by propaganda department personnel.. whistling.gif
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post Sep 17 2013, 05:02 PM

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That's an FN-6 knocking down Mi-8 by the FSA.
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post Sep 17 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Sep 17 2013, 11:32 AM)
Short range SAM - Jernas, MANPADs
Medium/long range SAM - Future KS-1A?
Long Range air asset - Fighters, Interceptors

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KS-1 Mobile launcher

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I tot the US also offered us PAC3..a knocked down version, but still..
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post Sep 17 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Sep 17 2013, 05:06 PM)
I tot the US also offered us PAC3..a knocked down version, but still..
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Really? dun know about that

Budget constrain always limits our purchase option.. haizz
and also unsaturated public opinion
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Sep 17 2013, 05:23 PM)
Really? dun know about that

Budget constrain always limits our purchase option.. haizz
and also unsaturated public opinion
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heard it from somewhere..tho I would really prefered S300...
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Netherlands confirm f35 purchase? rolleyes.gif

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Dutch to purchase 37 F-35 fighter planes - sources

(Reuters) - The Netherlands will purchase 37 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter planes, two sources with knowledge of the matter told Reuters on Tuesday, a decision that should end years of political wrangling over ballooning costs and delays.

The decision is a boost for Lockheed Martin (LMT.N) and Washington, which had urged the Netherlands in April not to turn to other suppliers because of fears of rising costs in a project that has been blighted by technical faults and delays.

Defense Minister Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert was due to announce the decision later on Tuesday in a policy paper setting out her long-term vision for the armed forces, the sources said.

The decision brings the number of countries with firm commitments to purchase the F-35 to seven after Britain, Australia, Italy, Norway, Israel and Japan also placed orders.

The F-35 is designed to be the next-generation fighter for decades to come for U.S. forces and their allies in NATO.

The F-35 program, hit by technical faults, is several years behind schedule and 70 percent above early cost estimates.

The Dutch, who are phasing out their F-16s by 2023, had initially planned to buy 85 F-35s, but people close to the discussions said earlier this year they wanted to scale back the order to between 52 and 68 amid deep budget cuts.

Some Dutch politicians, concerned about rising costs, had suggested going for an alternative such as Saab AB's (SAABb.ST) Gripen, Boeing Co's (BA.N) F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet, or the EADS (EAD.PA) Eurofighter.

The reluctance by the Netherlands prompted the U.S. Department of Defense in April to urge The Hague to reconsider, saying it could end up paying more in the long run.

The price of the jets would be around $85 million, including inflation, according to the most recent Pentagon projections.

But actual prices for the F-35 have been coming in about 10 percent lower than that figure, one source familiar with the program said.

The Dutch government has budgeted 4.5 billion euros ($6.01 billion) for the warplanes and an additional 270 million euros per year in operating costs.

($1 = 0.7489 euros)

(Reporting By Anthony Deutsch in Amsterdam and Andrea Shalal-Esa in Washington; Editing by Sara Webb and Elizabeth Piper)


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post Sep 17 2013, 07:22 PM

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First Oplot tanks for Thailand successfully undergo driving and firing trials

BULLETIN RELEASED: 16/09/13 9:26AM GMT

Kyiv, September 16 (Interfax-Ukraine) – The first two Oplot main battle tanks produced under an order from Thailand at the Malyshev Plant (Kharkiv), have successfully undergone driving and firing trials at a firing ground near the village of Chuhuiv (Kharkiv region), the press service of the Ukroboronprom State Concern told Interfax-Ukraine on Monday, referring to the concern’s director general, Serhiy Hromov.

Hromov said that during the first stage of driving and firing tests, the tanks had demonstrated maneuverability at various speeds. During the firings both tanks fired their 125-mm cannons, 7.62-mm coaxial machine gun and 12.7-mm anti-aircraft machine guns. All targets were hit.

“In general, the trials of the Oplot main battle tank confirmed the high quality and technical specifications of the battle tank, as envisaged by its designers,” he said.

The tests of three more tanks from the first batch are scheduled for the near future, he added.

In September 2011, Ukraine and Thailand signed a contract worth over $200 million on supplies of 49 Ukrainian Oplot main battle tanks to Thailand. Ukroboronprom’s Malyshev Plant started fulfilling the contract in the spring of 2012.

In recent years Ukraine has been actively developing military and technical cooperation with Thailand. The contracts for supplies of Ukrainian military hardware, particularly BTR-3E1 armored personnel carriers and Oplot tanks, concluded with Thailand in 2006-2011 and being implemented today, are estimated to be worth $500 million.


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post Sep 17 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Sep 17 2013, 12:32 PM)
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chinese military product goes a long way since the turn of the century. they already developed their "indigenous" phased-array radars (though i suspect they bought/reverse engineer them from israel). and they aggressively offers ToT as well.

KS-1A is considered as lapok already. now their top product is HQ-9 (though it's actually a long range sam)
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post Sep 18 2013, 12:14 AM

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Singaporean and Australian troops in joint exercise Down Under

Close to 100 Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) personnel are training with their Australian counterparts in a bilateral armour exercise.

The two-day joint exercise, code-named Matilda, started on Sept 16 at the Mount Bundey Training Area, near Darwin in Australia's Northern Territory.

The men and women from the 48th Battalion, Singapore Armoured Regiment (48 SAR), operating the Leopard 2SG main battle tanks, are training alongside the Australian Defence Force's (ADF) 1st Armoured Regiment. The joint drill is the culmination of a 14-day drill in which Singaporean troops and tanks were put through their paces to practice shooting and tactical manoeuvres.

Lieutenant Colonel Koh Kian Wee, commanding officer of 48 SAR, said the bilateral drill allows Singaporean troops and their Australian counterparts to share professional insights and build rapport. Mindef said in a statement on Tuesday that Exercise Matilda is a "testament to the close and long-standing defence ties between Singapore and Australia".

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/...-under-20130917
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post Sep 18 2013, 12:34 AM

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post Sep 18 2013, 12:56 AM

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Korean sam quite nice.
I hoping we can get saab bamse. I like the bamse ncw concept enabling to cover a huge areas.
Perhaps getting it intergrated with km sam would be intresting.
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:44 AM

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Singapore’s Steps: Modernizing the RSAF’s F-16 Fleet
By Defense Industry Daily staff | 17 September 2013 Tuesday | 18:29 UTC

In September 2013, Singapore confirmed its much-anticipated intent to upgrade its F-16C/Ds with improved radars and other changes. The move is part of wider-ranging improvements underway in Singapore. It’s also seen as an early example to many other F-16 operators around the world, who respect Singapore’s as a discerning buyer and may wish to do the same thing.

That decision is expected to launch at least 2 fierce competitions. One will be between Lockheed Martin and BAE Systems. The other will be between Raytheon and Northrop Grumman.

RSAF: The Bigger Picture

With respect to the F-16s, Singapore has a number of options. First of all, Lockheed Martin and BAE can be expected to compete hard for the upgrade work. Lockheed Martin is the manufacturer, but Britain has picked up significant F-16 upgrade wins in the USA and around the world.

Then there’s the radar question. The new radars will use advanced AESA technology, improving range/ discrimination by 2x – 3x, offering entirely new modes of operation, and sharply reducing maintenance costs.

Lockheed Martin recently announced that Northrop Grumman’s SABR radar would be the cornerstone of its F-16V offering, which was unveiled at the 2012 Singapore air show. The F-16V can be bought as an upgrade, or as new fighters. Modernized American and Taiwanese F-16s will also use SABR.

On the other hand, South Korea picked Raytheon’s RACR radar for their advanced F-16 upgrade, and Singapore already flies with related Raytheon AN/APG-63v3 AESA radars in its 20 new F-15SGs. If Singapore also picks RACR for its F-16s, in order to take advantage of common software and radar mode development, it will give Raytheon a significant and much-needed boost in the global F-16 refit competition.

From a force structure point of view, Singapore has about 14 F-16C/Ds based in the USA for training, and another 48 F-16C/Ds in Singapore at Changi AB and Tengah AB. In the near future, they plan to expand Changi and Tengah and consolidate around both facilities, while closing Paya Lebar AB. Paya Lebar’s F-15SGs, upgraded F-5S interceptors, and C-130 transports will go elsewhere, though the 40 or so F-5s are due for phase out in the near future.

There is some question as to whether they will be replaced, though a March 2013 announcement that Singapore would buy more F-15SGs seems to indicate at least partial near-term replacement. The rest of that question hinges on Singapore’s timeline for acquiring F-35s. If they’re bought soon, they’ll grow the fleet, effectively replacing the F-5S with some F-16C/Ds. If Singapore postpones their F-35 buy, they will pay less per plane, and the F-35s will become de facto replacements for the F-16+ fleet as they age out. Upgrading the F-16s might suggest to some that Singapore intends to delay the F-35s, especially since they recently elected to expand their F-15SG fleet instead of making an expected announcement about 12 F-35Bs. In his September 2013 statement, Minister for Defence Dr. Ng Eng Hen would say only that Singapore continues to evaluate the F-35′s suitability “in meeting our long-term security needs to further modernise our fighter fleet and replace our older aircraft.”

Singapore’s consolidation into just 2 main air bases adds operational risk to their future fleet, but protection is also being improved. Beyond Singapore’s confirmed F-16 upgrades and new F-15SGs, new IAI Gulfstream G550 CAEW jets have improved their advance airborne warning. On the ground, new mobile Spyder air defense systems from RAFAEL offer a more modern, longer-range complement to the legacy Rapier systems from Britain. At the top tier, MBDA’s long-range Aster-30 missiles will soon replace Raytheon’s MIM-23 I-Hawks on land, offering Singapore the ability to intercept short range ballistic missiles as well as aircraft, cruise missiles, etc. Singapore’s Formidable Class frigates already use a combination of Aster-15 and Aster-30 missiles, so the land-based Aster-30 buy will draw on an existing support network.

None of Singapore’s immediate neighbors can match this array, and Singapore’s qualitative advantage is large enough that it’s very unlikely anyone would test it. The city-state is extremely serious about its defense, with a long history of strong spending in this area. That well-known commitment, and the visibility of its strategic position, ensures that Singapore’s defense choices get attention far beyond their immediate neighborhood.

Contracts & Key Events

Sept 16/13: Singapore’s Minister for Defence Dr. Ng Eng Hen’s Parliamentary reply confirms that Singapore has picked MBDA’s Aster-30 as its upper-tier air defense system on land, and will upgrade their F-16s. The planes will be refitted with new electronics and systems, and the RSAF also plans to extend their service lives. Sources: Singapore MINDEF , “Reply by Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen to Parliamentary Question on Relocation of Paya Lebar Air Base”.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/singap...6-fleet-017430/
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post Sep 18 2013, 01:14 PM

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http://www.scorpionjet.com/aircraft-features/

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/09/16/tex...isrstrike-airc/

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The demonstration aircraft is now in test phase, with first flight scheduled to occur before the end of this year—a rapid schedule by any measure of military jet development. Textron Chairman and CEO Scott Donnelly said, "We began development of the Scorpion in January 2012 with the objective to design, build and fly the world's most affordable tactical jet aircraft capable of performing lower-threat battlefield and homeland security missions." Donnelly continued, "We relied on commercial best practices to develop a tactical jet platform with flexibility and capabilities found only in far more costly aircraft."

The Scorpion is designed to accommodate the increasingly stringent budget constraints of the U.S. Department of Defense and U.S. partner nations. The Scorpion's design is well matched to the Air National Guard's missions such as irregular warfare, border patrol, maritime surveillance, emergency relief, counter-narcotics and air defense operations. While Scorpion's lower acquisition price is an advantage, an equally important benefit is the lower cost of operation over the aircraft's full lifecycle. Combining ease of maintenance and globally-available commercial components, the Scorpion can significantly lower the customer's total cost of ownership.

F. Whitten Peters, former U.S. Secretary of the Air Force, an investor in and advisor to AirLand Enterprises, LLC, commented, "With its industry-leading capabilities in commercial aircraft and defense systems design and manufacturing, Textron was a natural partner to bring the vision of an affordable tactical military jet to fruition." He added, "In an impressively short time, the joint venture has designed and built a capable and mission-ready aircraft with no up-front government funding. We believe Scorpion will fill a critical price and performance gap in the tactical military aircraft market."




this aircraft is supposed to be cheap (cheaper than Super Tucano), easy and cheap to maintain (due to its parts commonality with civillian aircraft like cessna), yet can fly faster and carry more payload than Super Tucano.

sound replacement for Hawk 200 perhaps. this aircraft can be integrated in ESSCOM

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post Sep 18 2013, 03:09 PM

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Singapore's F-15 fighter jets are operationally ready: RSAF

Singapore's most modern fighter jets are now combat ready, strengthening the Republic's air defence shield. The Republic of Singapore Air Force's (RSAF) 24 F-15 SG fighter jets went operational on Wednesday.

Singapore received its first F-15 aircraft in 2009. The F-15 jet is considered one of the top fighter planes in the world. It has racked up a combat record of 104 victories and zero losses in 30 years of air battles worldwide.

Men and machines were put through a series of tests and training exercises, among other things, to certify that the F-15s' weapons systems and flight performance fully meet the RSAF's requirements. Attaining "full operational capability" means they can be deployed in any combat missions.

The F-15s are a critical part of the RSAF's arsenal to pre-empt air threats and gun down hostile targets. Other weapons include the G550 early warning surveillance jets, the SPYDER air defence system, all of which are already combat-ready. The ASTER-30 surface-to-air missile system will soon be added to the RSAF suite of sensors and shooters.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/...y-rsaf-20130918
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Jabhat al Nusra - Battle Of Maaloula

http://m.gulfnews.com/news/region/syria/sy...llage-1.1229123

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September 9, 2013


Beirut: Syrian troops launched an attack Monday on hills overlooking a Christian-majority village near the capital Damascus, two days after rebel forces captured the ancient community, an activist group said.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said fighters from the Al Qaida-affiliated Jabhat Al Nusra or Nusra Front and the Qalamon Liberation Front still control Maaloula, an ancient village that is home to two of the oldest surviving monasteries in Syria. Rebels captured the village on Saturday.

The battle has thrown a spotlight on the deep-seated fears that many of Syria’s religious minorities harbour about the growing role of Islamic extremists on the rebel side in Syria’s civil war.

Rami Abdul-Rahman, who heads the Observatory, said troops attacked the hills around Maaloula early Monday under the cover of heavy shelling. He said the aim of the troops appears to “isolate the rebels in the village”.

The village, famous for being home to two of the oldest surviving monasteries in Syria, is nearly empty of its inhabitants. Only around 50 people remain there, according to a resident who left the area in the past days.

The man, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals from rebels, said there was a truce Monday morning in order for paramedics to evacuate 10 wounded Christian residents.

He added that one church on the western side of the village was burnt.

A nun in the village told the Lebanon-based Al-Mayadeen TV that Nusra Front members are still in control of the village, adding that they entered her convent early Monday and took pictures and videos of the site.

“The Syrian army is on the outskirts,” said Pelagia Sayaf, who heads the Mar Takla convent. “We only know about what is happening in the convent. We know nothing about outside and whether anyone was killed or kidnapped ... There are sporadic clashes and I can hear the sound of warplanes.”

Situated about 60 kilometres northeast of Damascus, Maaloula had until recently been firmly under the regime’s grip despite sitting in the middle of rebel-held territory east and north of the capital.

The village was a major tourist attraction before the civil war. Some of its residents still speak a version of Aramaic, a Biblical language believed to have been used by Jesus.

The attack highlights fears among Syrian Christians that the alternative to Assad’s regime - which is made up mostly of Alawites, followers of an offshoot of Shiite Islam - would not tolerate minority religions.

Such concerns have helped Assad retain the support of large chunks of Syria’s minority communities, including Christians, Alawites, Druze and ethnic Kurds. Most of the rebels and their supporters are Sunni Muslims.

Syria’s crisis, which began in March 2011, has killed more than 100,000 people according to the UN.





http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=346_1379512288

Link above is video release by Jabhat al Nusra in details..
Effective use of suicide bomber.. zerg rush everything, even the tank. Skip to 16:54..... shocking.gif
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 18 2013, 01:14 PM)
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http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/09/16/tex...isrstrike-airc/
this aircraft is supposed to be cheap (cheaper than Super Tucano), easy and cheap to maintain (due to its parts commonality with civillian aircraft like cessna), yet can fly faster and carry more payload than Super Tucano.

sound replacement for Hawk 200 perhaps. this aircraft can be integrated in ESSCOM
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yeap i seen this before and i believe it is a good idea if the ESSCOM actually invest in this.
but in the end of the day will the goverment be willing to go all out on just some pirates and "Terrorist"?
MPA would be a better choice i believe preventing is better then curing

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