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post Sep 4 2013, 08:55 PM

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I like the knife. Is this guy still around?

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QUOTE(menj @ Sep 4 2013, 07:55 PM)
I like the knife. Is this guy still around?

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Kopassus form in 26 Desember 1986, how those soldier get knife with "kopassus" word in 1966? and kopassus never use that kind of knife since they form, u can check at google

its not a problem for us with the fact that some RPKAD member had indeed fallen during the conflict in Kalimantan in the 60's. Soldiers fallen in battle, nothing really embarrassing to it, cause kopassus still made from flesh and blood. but, making heroic story upon a modern dagger with word Kopassus in 60's its just hilarious smile.gif
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QUOTE(menj @ Sep 4 2013, 03:58 PM)
Is this unit from VAT69 or PGA? Hell, sometimes I really get confused between the two tongue.gif
To easily explain it,according to my understanding,Police paramilitary units are split into 2 units:


1) PGA: Police Paramilitary units for general duties such as raids,road blocks & supporting police operations (general duties=gerakan am)


2) PGK: Pasukan Gerakan Khas contains 2 units for specialist duties (specialist duties=gerakan khas)

i) VAT 69: Specialist jungle paramilitary units

ii) UTK: Specialist SWAT-type units for urban/built-up areas



Then again,this is from my own knowledge and understanding. If i'm mistaken,please correct la blush.gif

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QUOTE(menj @ Sep 4 2013, 08:55 PM)
I like the knife. Is this guy still around?

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no more, the passed away last year

QUOTE(meedoot @ Sep 4 2013, 09:28 PM)
Kopassus form in 26 Desember 1986, how those soldier get knife with "kopassus" word in 1966? and kopassus never use that kind of knife since they form, u can check at google

its not a problem for us with the fact that some RPKAD member had indeed fallen during the conflict in Kalimantan in the 60's. Soldiers fallen in battle, nothing really embarrassing to it, cause kopassus still made from flesh and blood. but, making heroic story upon a modern dagger with word Kopassus in 60's its just hilarious  smile.gif
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nah, the story is fabricated by the journalist,
we don't really know if the journalist even understand the story
but since he is no more with us, doubt that we will hear the real story
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QUOTE(menj @ Sep 4 2013, 08:55 PM)
I like the knife. Is this guy still around?

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The knife itself is weird & inconsistent,doesn't look like a combat/fighting knife.Too flashy with a lot of impractical features,same case with the scabbard. Most military units prefer utilitarian knives that just do the job.

The name KOPASSUS itself didn't exist until in the late 1980s,before that there were a few special forces units in the TNI-AD.

In my knowledge,KOPASSUS is the unified command of these special forces units,not a unit in itself. Sort of like USSOCOM,who commands various special forces units,not a unit in itself.

But the story is good though. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2013, 09:01 PM)
no more, the passed away last year
nah, the story is fabricated by the journalist,
we don't really know if the journalist even understand the story
but since he is no more with us, doubt that we will hear the real story
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yes atre.. i know its just some story.. just give some information about kopassus history, cause since the first time of kopassus embrio founded by idjon janbi (ducth soldier), kopassus has transform 4 to 5 times (KKAD '53, RPKAD '55, puspassus '66, kopasandha '71 and kopassus in 1986. just trying to match the media with the history (can be found on net). which one we want to believe its up to each person. if the soldier in the news has passed away, may he rest in peace smile.gif

btw.. kopasandha (1971) knife

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QUOTE(meedoot @ Sep 4 2013, 10:46 PM)
yes atre.. i know its just some story.. just give some information about kopassus history, cause since the first time of kopassus embrio founded by idjon janbi (ducth soldier), kopassus has transform 4 to 5 times (KKAD '53, RPKAD '55, puspassus '66, kopasandha '71 and kopassus in 1986. just trying to match the media with the history (can be found on net). which one we want to believe its up to each person. if the soldier in the news has passed away, may he rest in peace  smile.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 4 2013, 09:57 PM)
To easily explain it,according to my understanding,Police paramilitary units are split into 2 units:
1) PGA: Police Paramilitary units for general duties such as raids,road blocks & supporting police operations (general duties=gerakan am)
2) PGK: Pasukan Gerakan Khas contains 2 units for specialist duties (specialist duties=gerakan khas)

    i) VAT 69: Specialist jungle paramilitary units

    ii) UTK: Specialist SWAT-type units for urban/built-up areas
Then again,this is from my own knowledge and understanding. If i'm mistaken,please correct la  blush.gif
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That photo was from Ops Daulat. I presume that both PGA and the two sub-PGK units must have been called in during the operation, then?

Updated: Video I found on UTK.



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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2013, 10:01 PM)
no more, the passed away last year
nah, the story is fabricated by the journalist,
we don't really know if the journalist even understand the story
but since he is no more with us, doubt that we will hear the real story
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Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi ra'aji un.

It is most likely the story is indeed true, but it did not involve today's KOPASSUS, and it is also probable that the knife was not even part of that story. Or it could be that the knife was indeed taken away from the enemy during that time period, but the scabbard with "KOPASSUS" written on it came in later. I don't think that old man would lie about his experiences.

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Anything like this in our military inventory?

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QUOTE(menj @ Sep 5 2013, 01:45 AM)
Anything like this in our military inventory?

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yep the Haglund tracked vehicle

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Found these pics when I was shifting through my Dropbox....apparently I attended a military event at Dataran Merdeka, but forgot all about it! I don't remember what the occasion was, but the time-stamp says "1st February 2009", if that has any meaning to old-timers.

Enjoy the pictures...I don't even know what vehicle(s) I was posing with tongue.gif

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Here's more...

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QUOTE(menj @ Sep 5 2013, 03:50 PM)
Here's more...

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they let u take pictures of the vehicles interior?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Sep 5 2013, 04:01 PM)
they let u take pictures of the vehicles interior?
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I don't remember the details but I think so, yeah. Everyone was snapping away happily tongue.gif
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With the MiG-29 on steroids, who needs the Rafale

September 3, 2013 Rakesh Krishnan Simha

With the air defence MiG-29s being upgraded to an advanced multirole aircraft, the Indian Air Force could save more than $10 billion by scratching the Rafale.

More than a year after the French Rafale won the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) dogfight, a contract is nowhere in sight – forget the delivery date. Not only is it the usual drawn-out drama that comes with India’s defence acquisitions, it is also clear the French have overpromised on the technology transfer provisions and now want to welch out.

The delay in the signing of the MMRCA contract, along with the high-octane upgrade of the Indian Air Force (IAF) MiG-29 Fulcrum and the advanced state of gestation of India’s fifth generation fighter, the Sukhoi PAK-FA, are creating a situation where the Rafale seems superfluous to India’s defence requirements.

The biggest game changer is the ongoing upgrade to the IAF’s Fulcrum fleet which will convert them to the MiG-29SMT. This means these aircraft will now be on a par with the advanced MiG-29M. “The MiG-29SMT upgrade will represent a major step forward for the aircraft on multiple fronts,” says Air Force Technology.

Most Indian Fulcrums are MiG-29Bs, downgraded by removing Russian IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) and datalink equipment, and a subpar radar. (This is standard practice by all manufacturing nations which reserve the most advanced versions for their own defence forces while exporting stepped down models.)

The IAF has speeded up the MiG-29B upgrade programme because of two factors.

One, an impending fighter crunch. Hundreds of MiG-21 interceptors and MiG-23 interceptors and fighter bombers have been retired, and the long-serving MiG-27 ground attack fighter won’t be around very long. The 118 British Jaguars – which have been highly accident prone – may also have to be withdrawn from their deep penetration roles in view of the improvement in air defences in India’s neighbourhood.

Secondly, India’s Light Combat Aircraft, Tejas, which was to have filled the void created by the MiG-21’s exit, remains flight shy. The three-decade long programme is suffering from all sorts of problems, leaving India with a huge gap in its light interceptor fleet.

MiG-29 on steroids

Defense Industry Daily (DID) reports the 62 upgraded MiG-29s – 54 single-seat fighters and 8 trainers – will join the Mirage-2000 fleet in the IAF’s multirole middle-tier category. This is a category that is above the MiG-21s/27s and below the Sukhoi-30 MKIs. The upgrade will change their role from air-superiority planes to full multirole fighters with modern air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons.

The planes will be fitted with upgraded weapons and a new avionics suite, including the Phazatron Zhuk-ME radar. The Zhuk-ME’s acquisition range has increased 1.5 times. It also adds terrain following mode, and ground target acquisition including high-resolution synthetic aperture radar (SAR) to obtain a better picture than is possible with conventional radar.

After the $964 million upgrade, the Fulcrums are expected to remain in service for 10-15 more years, with their safe flight-hour lifetimes extended from 25 years/2,500 hours to 40 years/3,500 hours.

The IAF is also bulking up its middle tier by upgrading its 51 Mirage 2000s to a standard similar to the latest Mirage 2000-5. Flying with new radar and new weapons, the upgraded fighters can be expected to serve until around 2030.

Including aircraft under order, India’s Sukhoi-30 MKI fleet is currently pegged at 272. It is an impressive number for such a high-end and expensive weapons platform. This shows a keen sense of judgement by the IAF, which realizes that 100 percent fleet utilisation is impossible and having a large number of aircraft around is the key to getting the job done.

“These aircraft will be the high end of India’s air power, and can be expected to remain in the force past 2030, and are competitive with or superior to top-end European fighters and American F-15 variants,” says DID.

Even allowing for the inevitable delays – with India insisting on various customisations – Sukhoi’s fifth generation stealth fighter will be entering service well before 2030. Under these circumstances, the Rafale is too late to the party.

Rafale: Reasons for buying

To be sure, the primary reason for selecting a Western aircraft – ahead of more potent Russian alternatives – is to reduce dependence on one vendor country.

The other objective is to acquire the full technology suite of a modern aircraft for local production. French technology is being pitched as the magic potion that will save the Tejas programme, while also providing a large boost to aerospace and defence electronics industries in India. Basically, it will allow India to move up from screwdriver technology to building entire fighter aircraft from scratch.

But will Dassault, which builds the Rafale, oblige? The French newspaper L’Usine Nouvelle cites complex electronics, and especially the Thales AESA radar, as being difficult to transfer. The Delhi-based Daily Pioneer predicts a “stream of news reports that we’ve already heard a thousand times before will come out telling us how unprepared our institutions are to receive this technology”.

There is no reason for the IAF to accept a downgraded Rafale. In view of the massive fall in living standards in the West in general and mass unemployment in France in particular, it is France, not India that has to compromise. The alternative for Dassault is the closure of its Rafale plant. Someone should sit with the French and show them the mirror.

The IAF is clear that it does not want to repeat the story of the HF-24 Marut fighter – the first Indian supersonic aircraft – which was developed in the 1960s by HAL and the freelancing German aerospace engineer Kurt Tank. Like the Tejas, the Marut too was an underpowered aircraft that was quietly retired.

If the French do not deliver the technology, there is no point spending billions on sterile imports – unless someone in the vicinity of South Block is seriously committed to kickbacks.

Rafale’s costs may defy gravity

Another problem with the Rafale is the ballooning cost. The MMRCA was a requirement of the 2000s but the extended competition has inflated costs to stratospheric levels – from $10 billion a decade ago to around $20 billion, according to the New Delhi-based Institute for Defence Studies & Analysis (IDSA). Plus, nobody reckoned with the falling rupee, which has also increased the cost per plane.

DID believes the 100 or so Rafales would offer some compatibilities with the upgraded Mirage 2000s, but will come at about twice the Sukhoi-30 MKI’s price. “If budget pressures intervene and Tejas continues to lag, India could be forced to buy a less expensive mid-tier plane instead,” it says.

That plane could well be the MiG-29SMT. Its variant, the MiG-35 could easily replace the Rafale if India scratches the MMRCA and opts for a government to government deal instead.

Need for spending wisely

Acquiring the Rafale at such a prohibitive cost is extravagance which India cannot afford at a time when economic growth has hit an embarrassing 5 percent and the rupee is in free fall. “While it was presumed a few years ago that funds for defence would not be a constraint in the future, a slowing economy has led to these funds being curtailed,” says the IDSA. “The writing on the wall is clear: resource constraints are looming for the armed forces.”

When advanced Russian aircraft are available for less than half the price of the Rafale, it would be prudent to wait before signing on the line that is dotted. The money can be better spent on beefing up the Tejas programme. For the kind of cash we are talking, there is a hell of a lot of red hot technology that cash strapped defence companies in the West will part with.
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after this, the baton of "flying coffin" in IAF will be passed to MiG-29 whistling.gif

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