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Frequently Asked Question on what kind of bikes to get:

1) Aluminum bike - 10 speed Tiagra (maybe mixed Tiagra - Sora), priced around RM3k up- this would be the absolute lowest point i would say to start from... any lower and you will land outside of 10speed equipment and any upgrades will certainly be more than the difference you saved not buying this bike.. shimano launched tiagra with 10speed beginning of this year making this a considerable choice... also, this grade of bike will have a more common grade of cockpit (handlebar, stem, seat post, saddle) and cheaper wheels

2) Aluminum bike - 10 speed 105 (maybe mixed 105 - Tiagra), priced around RM3.8k up- most likely the same frame above with a different paint livery, this would be an entry level into shimano's definition of competition components... tiagra would be what they called the top tier among the enthusiast group.. although both 10 speed... but materials and feel... tiagra has a shift indicator while the 105 does not hence giving you a pro feel (what the bike shop will tell you)...mostly.. tiagra has a bit more plasticky bits than 105... some slightly more expensive models might even start offering slightly better wheels like mavic aksiums along with better slightly better graded cockpit...

- i would not try and go past 105 on a aluminum bike... the best brands like specialized or bmc will be selling an aluminum bike equipped with 105 for a little over RM5k... going 1 notch up into ultegra will lead you to start looking into higher end bikes as those bikes will surely creep past RM6k and most likely a mismatch between frame and component grades... you will be practically trying to pair a set of RAYS CE28N onto a Perodua Myvi if you get what i mean in car terms...

3) Carbon bike - 10 speed 105 (possibly not full 105), priced around RM7k up- this would be a foray into performance bicycles... although a carbon frame... but this are not the best carbon has to offer for 2 reasons... carbon cloth grade (less modulus, less weave, lower grade binding agents) and the man power / time needed (less complex layup schedules) to layup the carbon layers into producing a frame... basically a mass produced frame with the lowest production cost possible... not all that bad... it should still be on par if not better with the best of the aluminum frames in terms of stiffness.. basically, component should be similar or slightly better than the aluminum 105 bike depending on the price you pay...

- here i would name one which shocked me quite a bit recently... saw this Look 566...this http://www.lookcycle.com/en/int/route/velo...-bike-2013.html , but i guess a previous year model...... carbon frame with Mavic Aksium wheels... not a complete 105 with some downgraded cranks and calipers... a carbon frame with comfort geometry retailing for RM7.1k if my memory serves me right...

- price is slightly high for some people... but if you look at it...maybe under 30% more if you are looking at a Apex or 105 equipped Specialize Allez

4) free for all - death - bankruptcy - you name it...
- step into this and there will be no return...

Beside on the modern roadbike, there's also classic roadbike that worth to consider, if you're classic roadbike lover.

at best, this is considered a classic remake...


with columbus tubing at least... if there is any chance that anyone still makes a bike with reynolds 531 tubing, even better...

it has to be small round tubes and lugged in order to qualify as classic...



"i guess that is the definition." by YB Butthead.


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This post has been edited by vin_ann: Jun 6 2013, 10:47 AM

that sounds gay... 1st post already mau kena bantai...

ohhhh F@K....i suddenly realizes what all this means...

NO NEW PURCHASES OR UPGRADES FROM NOW ON!!!


This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 10:22 AM

Top 10 posters of last thread..

miaopurr 498
mrjgx 206
lilredridinghood 203
hianboy 171
vin_ann 78
Snowguy2068 57
yolk 47
Mac Wai 45
lot101 32
SYAMiLLiON 27

top 10 posters of v5...
miao is the biggest c0ck

vin_ann, you should be ashamed of yourself you got whooped even by the new kid who has yet to own a bike yet and you are the master of this thread

HO YEAH IM NUMBER 4!!!




by the way... y ur not in da list?

This post has been edited by hianboy: Apr 23 2013, 10:30 AM

reporting in

somehow... i am quite superstitious nowadays...

i want number 8...

can i get the permission to paste some mila kunis stuff on page 1???

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 10:37 AM

9... i'm number 9.

100km ultra trail completed. ranked 81. not bad huh.

now have to get my legs on the pedal now.....

you are very "九"...

ranked 81 out of 82 runners??? 81 alone doesn't make sense la... tell la got how many runners...

i thought you always had your legs on the rpm bikes and your eyes on the 2 cheeks in front of you??

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 10:43 AM

eh, where's ur name?

ehrr.. the number don't make sense... it makes it look like i have too much free time in hand...

i knew it

His post is...

i haven't change to super saiyan 2 yet...

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 11:15 AM

mavic rsys slr do tempt me with it's all black colors which suits my bike..but that would be a climbing wheels, just like my FR0. Choices are limited! but that surely will reduce some grams.


FR0 dark label but still not dark enough...i hate the shining chrome on my bike, it looks like a sore thumb sticking out from the stealthy look ..the same goes to the braze on clamp which is in silver! I tried to look for the black one from Campy at Godzilla but they are run out of stock

i dont have the weight scale yet at the moment but at most with my guesstimation i can reduce:

FRO - Rsys SLR = 135 grams ------ wth, i might skip this option.
Carbon cages = 40grams
carbon seatpost = 110 grams
carbon handlebar = 100 grams
seat = 104 grams
skewers = ~80 grams

total = 569 grams

7.9kg - 569g = 7.3kg

So to make it sub 7kg I have to further do this things..

change pedals = 130grams
change to lighter groupsets = maybe 300-400grams?? Im not sure about this



This post has been edited by mrjgx: Apr 23 2013, 11:18 AM

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holy hell crap king.. hail to YB Butthead...
if you're a candidates in the coming GE, i will vote you.

i suggest you aerolite pedals... only 36 grams each.. even speedplay nanogram zero's will lose out to it...
http://www.aerolitepedals.com/index.php?op...id=50&Itemid=58

as for brakes, eebrakes is sub 200 grams... shaves about 30 grams off the new red aerolink...
http://www.eecycleworks.com/eebrake.html

unfortunately, THM did not make any scapula forks with 1 3/8 lower tapered steerers before... but no fear, money solves this problem.. plant in 20k euros and i believe you get your one off 1 1/8 upper, 1 3/8 lower THM Scapula fork....might shave easily 50 grams off as all THM Scapula is sub 300 gram....
http://www.thm-carbones.de/scapula-90.html

full THM cockpit... i dunno how much that will save... lazy to speculate at this point...
http://www.thm-carbones.de

some Enve 1.25 laced to tune hubs...saves 300 grams maybe...

and sub 7K would be no problem...

if i am in GE... there will be many corruption... and i don't mean corruption of the g-men... corruption of the citizens...

i won't be called the PM... i will be referred to the as the PMC... Prime Minister of C0ckingsham...

he doesn't want the fuss of changing brake pads for alu/carbon rims