RM40 vs RM800... mana wa tau you ohh... maybe you dun mind leh...

i know lar they charge for re-tuning... but some shock makers don't let you choose or bring the fork oil of your choice... let alone let you see their dyno results... so, if they willing... then pick their brains and get involved in the process la... that's wat i am trying to say only....

actually... i have sat in cars which is very contradictory to what we have always been thought to believe.. as we are not on smooth surfaces like a track... it doesn't require a hard setup all the time to get the car to behave well... as i said earlier, trying to manage weight transfer and keep the car within the traction circle is more important... again, it is really a case of driver preference and technique because it's a thing with mentality...

i have sat in a Mivec'ed wira before going for a whack in ulu yam... the car was setup to be only slightly lowered and surprisingly a lot of damper travel and not hard like the entire car is bouncing all over the place or unsettles with the slightest un-evenness (if that is a word, spell check is mind f@king me) on the road... so, the car still pitches and rolls quite a bit and doesn't quite stay flat through the turns... but it just hooks on and the driver can step on it mid-turn to get it out of the turn (helped no less by an LSD la)...it's still no stock damper setup but it's soft by today's usual damper setups

the thing is that quite a lot of cars are setup so hard that they got brainwashed that it is the way to go and it gives you a sort of feel that you are driving a fast car... any hints of the car pitching automatically unsettles the drivers nerves...

that ride in that car totally turned my beliefs inside out...

car wash?

it's definitely not something i'll look at for the time being, main reason is still money and im really hurting on that of late.

RCS have warned me if i were to revalve, comfort will be sacrificed. and even the current setup it's no doubt less comfortable than the original stock (inspira stock dampers/spring are REALLY soft and comfy) but that's a small price to pay for a lot of performance gains.
again, just not willing to pay more (whether in money or comfort) just to squeeze a little bit more to further utilize my tires.

and despite being stiffer, the spring rates would probably still remain (4k front 3k rear) as RCS mentioned that there isn't much point to go for stiffer spring rates for my car unless i am converting it into a track only car. so you're *probably* misunderstood on the harder/stiffer that RCS has spoken to me.

It's not that it's the end of the world as the main issues are still on road deformities which is almost non existent on a proper race track like Sepang.

also there are car washes that cost rm2-3k+, and yes it's in Malaysia, no joke.
it isn't in sunway though

i am just saying lar... you as the customer can demand mar since the shocks are not those mass manufactured stock units anyways... just whether you have that experimentative mentality or not only...
i am not surprised... but it sounded like you are willing to go do alignment or camber so frequently like it's going to the arcade center like that... RM40 once done over 4 times per month just to get it spot on means it's RM160 adi....

of course with absorbers it's harder lar.. you have to pay to get it unmounted, hang the car somewhere or put back the stock units while it gets serviced and then pay again to unmount the stock to re-install the serviced ones... (and then repeat again if you boh syiok with it)

got RM100 dollar alignment service charge in sunway one arh??? wah!!! ganasnya dia punya calculator...

this is growing to become a complicated subject

Dialing a car in to driver preferences is always complicated subject and there are no right way to do this
Everyone have their own way of doing it

i have sat in a Mivec'ed wira before going for a whack in ulu yam... the car was setup to be only slightly lowered and surprisingly a lot of damper travel and not hard like the entire car is bouncing all over the place or unsettles with the slightest un-evenness (if that is a word, spell check is mind f@king me) on the road... so, the car still pitches and rolls quite a bit and doesn't quite stay flat through the turns... but it just hooks on and the driver can step on it mid-turn to get it out of the turn (helped no less by an LSD la)...it's still no stock damper setup but it's soft by today's usual damper setups

the thing is that quite a lot of cars are setup so hard that they got brainwashed that it is the way to go and it gives you a sort of feel that you are driving a fast car... any hints of the car pitching automatically unsettles the drivers nerves...

that ride in that car totally turned my beliefs inside out...
car wash?

dialing in a car is pretty much the same... in terms of methods...

it just what kind of "feel" the are looking for that inspires confidence in them to push it harder... it's just like pasta, some (mostly asians) likes it more cooked while some likes it al dente... it can be the same pasta, same cooking liquid, same method but slightly different cooking time just to get the different results....

Now that said, this isn't a stock car, its still quite stiff because I don't have much weight, but I'm essentially still using stock dampers. But in my own setup, I used to make big changes from the front, but now I normally fine tune it with the rear....not the end people usually think about, normally sometimes as simple as rear toe and moving some weight about is all that is needed.

Most people tend to go way too hard to the detriment of comfort and drivability.

I'd say the same thing about power (more accurately too much of it) as well.

As it is, this stock dampered car can be quicker around Dato Sagor than a host of modified Satria GTIs, Mivec'd or GSR Turbo'd Wiras and likely quicker than stock VW GTIs.
Dialing a car in depends a lot on the driver, the driving style, the car and the surface its driven on. There is no right or wrong way. its nothing to do which setup is faster either...its more to the feel and driving excitement. You may have a setup that is mindblowingly quick but so nervous that you don't enjoy driving it.

Guys..
Im looking forward to change my tyre by next week.
However its hard to find tyre profile by 15 50 205.
Anyone here know which shop sell this profile?

Tq

if u know how to PM me

Hi guys,

How is this tyre compare to Michelin PS3 in terms of confort, noise and grip? I am looking for 245/40/R18.

What about the price?

Thanks in advance

Dry grip gonna be better
No one really care about comfort/grip in tyre of this class
245/40/18 is below RM1000
A lot of people like this tyre for touge/trackday yet you can use the same set of tyre to commute to work

Guys..
Im looking forward to change my tyre by next week.
However its hard to find tyre profile by 15 50 205.
Anyone here know which shop sell this profile?

Tq

Hi guys,

How is this tyre compare to Michelin PS3 in terms of confort, noise and grip? I am looking for 245/40/R18.

What about the price?

Thanks in advance

i was used ad08 for last 2 set and switch to PS3 due to budget issue.
dry road is excellent but not comfort and make some noise..but properly is my first choice if budget allow again.
never try their performance during wet road,scare die...drive safe bros~!

quick update/bump on this thread:

Yokohama AD08R had exceeded all my expectations and definitely did not disappoint despite the surprised i've had with RCS suspensions and the warnings i've been given.

Although they had not heat up to the 80 Celsius temperatures that RCS said required for the AD08R to perform at its full potential, i managed around 78-79 Celsius and it definitely amusing witnessing rocks being glued tight to the tire surface; As i tried to pull them off, there were black strings of rubber still clinging to the tire, similar to how you would see when pulling off slices of hot pizza where the cheese develop strings still attaching to the main piece.

Overall, I'm glad i did not cave in to the naysayers in telling me to sell my tires.
It may not have been very suitable for the streets with my suspension setup, however on the track, it was a totally different beast altogether.
Suspensions, tires, are more than adequate of what my 116 whp car can push.
All in all i managed 3:05 on my first ever Sepang with my Inspira, and 3:04 on the second day.

another sifu/bro phobian with the same AD08R managed an improvement to 2:39 from 2:41, a good 2 seconds!
originally targeted 2:38, however 2:39 is still a VERY respectable timing for an Evo X

Great tires, reasonable pricing, and great service from nestum
thanks for the wonderful Sepang experience

Want more endorsement of AD08R or not??
TTA Street AWD Turbo winner is on 265/35/18 AD08R
EVO X
2:30
That is seriously fast time for street class and i believe a new overall street class record at TTA