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post Apr 8 2013, 11:12 AM

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your ego hurt or what?

when you have problem getting service, aren't you suppose to complaint to the company?

you already complaint to the who is incharge, so what's the point come here to cry father cry mother?

you think all employees are perfect, professional?
next time when you running your own company, make sure you hire "perfect" and "professional" employee, else your customer will face same issue and do the same thing b****ing about your company.
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post Apr 11 2013, 09:44 PM

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Spoken like a boss.

"If my employee screws up and treat the customer badly, just tell me and nobody else. My employees bad behaviour should not rub off on my business. But whatever good things they do, I take credit for it".

1. in your dreams! smile.gif

2. if everybody did that, there'll be no incentive for the company to do anything. They'll just sweep everything under the carpet.

They bad publicity you get is what keeps us from getting even worse service (bad enough that they already are).

Disclaimer: though in this case, I think TS might be actually mistaken about the second guy being racist.


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post Apr 12 2013, 09:54 AM

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I was told "maa hai" loudly when negotiating with seller, now I know it means yawn.gif
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post Apr 12 2013, 11:29 AM

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Well, maybe TS misunderstood, but all this won't happen if one were to be polite in the 1st place right. Malaysians have tendency to be rude even amongst each other, let's be polite with each other, problem solved. in front of customer don't la use bad/cuss words...professional la sikit bro... smile.gif
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post Apr 12 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(dkk @ Mar 25 2013, 11:02 PM)
"When Malay or Indian say the same thing"? What, where, when. I don't remember it on this forum. Care to post a link?

There are people (look in the mirror) who are mistaken (making such a simple mistake, like a 4 year old kid), but claim to be so "expert", and refuse to be corrected (unlike a 4 year old kid).

The people here trying to point out the mistake is not being defensive. They're trying to help you not make a fool of yourself next time. They are not language experts, and are not claiming to be. But the mistake being made here is the silly kind made by very young kids (or people who does not really know the language, but is overconfident and thinks too much of their understanding).

Now, just consider what happens if you're really mistaken, and that phrase really isn't a racial slur. As soon as you walk out of earshot, the entire staff in that shop will be laughing at you. 'So "action", thinks he understand Cantonese'. When Andy is at home having dinner, he will tell his family about this unreasonable customer, forcing him to appologize so many times, on his day off, for some imagined wrong. They will all join in cursing you.

Or you confront another shopkeeper, and he really let you have it (because, well, you deserve it) ....

Think of the embarassment when you repeat the same mistake when you visit a shop with a friend/colleague. After you leave the shop, they point it out to you, only for you to say "actually about 20 different people on this web forum tried to explain to me, but I didn't believe them".

Don't get me wrong. There are lots of racist Chinese people in KL and the rest of Malaysia. And they do call members of other races all sorts of epithets. But THIS isn't it. You're barking up the wrong tree. Come back here when you have a real example. Generally, this would be hard to get, because most people speaking the various Chinese dialects knows that people of other races who do not speak the language, nevertheless may have memorized the cuss words. So they wait until you're out of earshot before calling you that.

BTW: I think if your command of the language is good, when someone actually refer to you using a racist word thinkin you don't understand, the way is not to phone up someone else. You shout directly at the offender "hey, what did you just call me?" But you do it in Cantonese (or whatever language he was using). Boy, would he be shocked and surprised! smile.gif
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Wow so impressed with your explanation.. thumbup.gif

Coming frm a background that uses many local languages, sometime, we Malaysians can get confused either, as I also tot TS was slammed with a racist slur, until I put on my Cantonese hat did I et that the first word meant something else which was not racial.

My mother tougue, Thai has also many words which has different meaning when pronounced differently, same like Japanese, Korean, Vietnam, etc.


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post Apr 12 2013, 08:26 PM

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if i were the seller and wanted to be rude, i'd use sei hak pei...

learn more la before whinig
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post Apr 13 2013, 04:11 AM

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TS felt disrespect and shares his story. A lot of lawyers coming out.

Ts juga ada salah tak korek telinga?


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post Apr 13 2013, 11:18 AM

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Haak (ends with a high note) yan = Black people
Haak (ends with a low note) yan = Customer/Guest

This post has been edited by ChaosXP: Apr 13 2013, 11:22 AM
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why u diam diam there?
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:52 PM

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busy digesting cantonese lesson from all the bros here....those who doesnt understand cantonese, not surprise lo...bashing here and there...keyboard warrior...spice up things and get quiet...typical... " sek siu siu, pan toi piu".... @DevilProtege ...u should re-learn your cantonese...might help you in the future...to all the other keyboard warrior, stay in your small world la...chinese language and their dialects too hard for you to learn...better learn A to Z enough d..
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post Apr 14 2013, 02:36 AM

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You would be relieved if you understand the language better. There are so many pronunciations in the Chinese language and IMO, this is actually quite funny laugh.gif
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post Apr 14 2013, 02:48 PM

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"Mahai" is a common vulgar phrase used amongst close friends.

Assuming "haak yan" that TS heard means "black guy", I see nothing wrong. It's not a derogatory term. In some Cantonese-speaking areas in Malaysia, even the word "k*ling yan" is used to describe Indians. Again, nothing derogatory in this term because it has been in use since a long time ago. But due to the politically correct environment, many modern youngsters now use "yandou yan" (literally, Indian person).

I have Indians and Sikhs who know Cantonese and we trade friendly barbs "sei haak guai" (literally, "bloody black ghost"), "chibai tongsan guai", etc, but we're not butthurt or anything.
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QUOTE(blackorange @ Mar 21 2013, 09:24 PM)
lain kali beli dengan bangla,

"adik manis, cari apa? laptop ada, monitor ada"
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Hahah! Try la.. they even sell C2D laptop with the price of i7 but the only different you got VVIP service from them.. tongue.gif
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post Apr 15 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(DevilProtege @ Mar 21 2013, 01:59 PM)
To those concerned,

I am a reseller and have purchased lots of items from your outlet (Lot 2.68 ,2nd Floor) and I always deal with your employee named Andy. Last night, I dropped by to the same outlet again and I was told very rudely by another Viewnet employee named Yong Wei that Andy was on leave. I then told him that I needed to purchase quite a number of items (2 Bay NAS, 2 hd's, M.Office 2010, Win 7 Home, external cd drive, Kaspersky AV ) but I'm not sure whether the price he gives me will be the same as the price Andy gives me since I'm a reseller. Yong Wei then replies with a raised voice saying "If you dont trust me you can go buy elsewhere and I got no time for you !". I immediately replied asking him is this how you treat your customer ? He then replied saying that he is busy producing some bills for another client. I then told him that If you're busy with another client, please ask me to hold on/wait for a moment and I would have waited patiently rather then talking to me rudely and with a raised voiced. I also told him that his customer service is extremely poor and that he doesnt know how to talk and treat customers at all.

I then proceeded to call Andy on his mobile and explained to him the situation. He then told me not to deal with the "fat guy" as he is extremely rude but to deal with the "thin guy" Ah Kit. I then spoke to Ah Kit and told him all the items that I needed which he started gathering. Before billing me the items, I told him to please cross check with Andy on the prices for myself (especially on the DS 212j NAS as I bought the same item last month).
Everything went well with Ah Kit until he called Andy and speaking in cantonese, he was referring to me asundefined and he also used the word "maa hai" and he put down the phone. I then asked him, what was the word you used on the phone to refer to me ? He then said that he spoke to Andy about the price. I told him that I understand cantonese and is that how you talk about your customer ? He denied using both the words. I told him that both you people dont know how to behave, one is extremely rude and the other uses foul language on the customer.

I then called Andy and told him that I heard Kit saying those two words, to which andy apologized. He said he was really sorry for the behavior of the two employees

I'm surprised that Viewnet employs such people and whether they are given proper customer service training ? If your employees are rude, how do customers communicate with them ? Being a reseller, I liaise with many distributors and this is the first time Ive seen such people who are not only rude but also RACISTS !

I'm very sure that I wont be dealing with Viewnet again !
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u are over sensitive laaaaaa!!!!
haak yan is custermor!!!!!
mahai---- yalorr!!!!

u is indian so u sensitive with tis word maaa......
chill lar....ur Cantonese not good then ask with proper manner lar....

I think is partially ur problem oso larrr.......

becoz u feeling ego so those ppl oso don like u......
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post Apr 15 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(battosai @ Mar 21 2013, 02:04 PM)
memang kurang ajar like that haiz lowyat standard has drop a lot  sad.gif
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i agree!!!

nowadays the lowyat seller is like from pasar malam from drop out school...one..

especially those from chinese school



that why in lowyat viewnet ...i always look for malay seller..

i'm sure you can find some malay seller in viewnet.. got one near projector dept

the pakcik is damn nice .. it just that those chinese youngster is so f***up mentality

i don;t mean to be racist.. because i'm chinese myself..i cannot deny the fact is those chinese seller can be so impatient...nowaday..feel so ashame of my own race







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post Jul 15 2013, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(DevilProtege @ Mar 21 2013, 01:59 PM)
To those concerned,

I am a reseller and have purchased lots of items from your outlet (Lot 2.68 ,2nd Floor) and I always deal with your employee named Andy. Last night, I dropped by to the same outlet again and I was told very rudely by another Viewnet employee named Yong Wei that Andy was on leave. I then told him that I needed to purchase quite a number of items (2 Bay NAS, 2 hd's, M.Office 2010, Win 7 Home, external cd drive, Kaspersky AV ) but I'm not sure whether the price he gives me will be the same as the price Andy gives me since I'm a reseller. Yong Wei then replies with a raised voice saying "If you dont trust me you can go buy elsewhere and I got no time for you !". I immediately replied asking him is this how you treat your customer ? He then replied saying that he is busy producing some bills for another client. I then told him that If you're busy with another client, please ask me to hold on/wait for a moment and I would have waited patiently rather then talking to me rudely and with a raised voiced. I also told him that his customer service is extremely poor and that he doesnt know how to talk and treat customers at all.

I then proceeded to call Andy on his mobile and explained to him the situation. He then told me not to deal with the "fat guy" as he is extremely rude but to deal with the "thin guy" Ah Kit. I then spoke to Ah Kit and told him all the items that I needed which he started gathering. Before billing me the items, I told him to please cross check with Andy on the prices for myself (especially on the DS 212j NAS as I bought the same item last month).
Everything went well with Ah Kit until he called Andy and speaking in cantonese, he was referring to me as "haak yan" and he also used the word "maa hai" and he put down the phone. I then asked him, what was the word you used on the phone to refer to me ? He then said that he spoke to Andy about the price. I told him that I understand cantonese and is that how you talk about your customer ? He denied using both the words. I told him that both you people dont know how to behave, one is extremely rude and the other uses foul language on the customer.

I then called Andy and told him that I heard Kit saying those two words, to which andy apologized. He said he was really sorry for the behavior of the two employees

I'm surprised that Viewnet employs such people and whether they are given proper customer service training ? If your employees are rude, how do customers communicate with them ? Being a reseller, I liaise with many distributors and this is the first time Ive seen such people who are not only rude but also RACISTS !

I'm very sure that I wont be dealing with Viewnet again !
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Bro, not only u la, I oso kena during I visit Viewnet shop yesterday. Some of them really rude. May be what ppl said is true, most of them even less then SPM level, never study or go for training course for Managing people, they are just like pasar malam ppl selling product.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Jul 15 2013, 01:34 AM
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tbh, czone nvr give me such problem. i love dealing with a guy name johnny, the other guy who i used to like no longer working there... he is working in the lowyat branch, i bought a lot of computers there (more than 30k)and he always give me cheap prices and some freebies too, such as Diablo 3 mousepad.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(atombom123 @ Apr 15 2013, 06:29 PM)
i agree!!!

nowadays the lowyat seller is like from pasar malam from drop out school...one..

especially those from chinese school
that why in lowyat viewnet ...i always look for malay seller..

i'm sure you can find some malay seller in viewnet..  got one near projector dept

the pakcik is damn nice .. it just  that those chinese youngster is so f***up mentality

i don;t mean to be racist.. because i'm chinese myself..i cannot deny the fact is those chinese seller can be so impatient...nowaday..feel so ashame of my own race
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lagi satu.kalau nak order barang dari kaunter sana cuba check harga yang ada dulu.aku pernah sekali kena kat viewnet jugak.aku mintak wireless mouse combo pastu dia kata rm68 kot.pastu tiba tiba aku rasa mcm nak jalan jalan kat situ pastu aku terperasan harga bende yang sama model yg sama promosi rm58.

aku sound dia.dia buat bodoh.lepas tu kalau aku beli barang dari viewnet aku avoid him at 1st place.kadang kadang aku nak buat dia sakit hati aku bagi duit kopi member dia yang layan aku.orangya kulit putih putih pakai cermin mata.
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QUOTE(DevilProtege @ Mar 21 2013, 01:59 PM)
To those concerned,

I am a reseller and have purchased lots of items from your outlet (Lot 2.68 ,2nd Floor) and I always deal with your employee named Andy. Last night, I dropped by to the same outlet again and I was told very rudely by another Viewnet employee named Yong Wei that Andy was on leave. I then told him that I needed to purchase quite a number of items (2 Bay NAS, 2 hd's, M.Office 2010, Win 7 Home, external cd drive, Kaspersky AV ) but I'm not sure whether the price he gives me will be the same as the price Andy gives me since I'm a reseller. Yong Wei then replies with a raised voice saying "If you dont trust me you can go buy elsewhere and I got no time for you !". I immediately replied asking him is this how you treat your customer ? He then replied saying that he is busy producing some bills for another client. I then told him that If you're busy with another client, please ask me to hold on/wait for a moment and I would have waited patiently rather then talking to me rudely and with a raised voiced. I also told him that his customer service is extremely poor and that he doesnt know how to talk and treat customers at all.

I then proceeded to call Andy on his mobile and explained to him the situation. He then told me not to deal with the "fat guy" as he is extremely rude but to deal with the "thin guy" Ah Kit. I then spoke to Ah Kit and told him all the items that I needed which he started gathering. Before billing me the items, I told him to please cross check with Andy on the prices for myself (especially on the DS 212j NAS as I bought the same item last month).
Everything went well with Ah Kit until he called Andy and speaking in cantonese, he was referring to me as "haak yan" and he also used the word "maa hai" and he put down the phone. I then asked him, what was the word you used on the phone to refer to me ? He then said that he spoke to Andy about the price. I told him that I understand cantonese and is that how you talk about your customer ? He denied using both the words. I told him that both you people dont know how to behave, one is extremely rude and the other uses foul language on the customer.

I then called Andy and told him that I heard Kit saying those two words, to which andy apologized. He said he was really sorry for the behavior of the two employees

I'm surprised that Viewnet employs such people and whether they are given proper customer service training ? If your employees are rude, how do customers communicate with them ? Being a reseller, I liaise with many distributors and this is the first time Ive seen such people who are not only rude but also RACISTS !

I'm very sure that I wont be dealing with Viewnet again !
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if not mistaken, "han yan" means customer, "maa hai" means ur mother's ****,nid more details to guess wat his saying on the fon..haha
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post Jul 15 2013, 10:36 AM

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If I'm urs, I will not spend time to argue with them any more and straight away sent email to complaint their staff, enquiry@viewnet.com.my or sales@viewnet.com.my

Just like yesterday, I meet one guy call Ah Wai wherw he is selling console. I just share some info with his customer, but he is totally rude to me and blame me. Some more I bought some games from this Ah Wai before. Is it I didn't buy games from him, then he can simply blame me? Btw, I didn't argue with him and just sent email to Viewnet to complaint.

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