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Racist and Rude employees of Viewnet Low Yat
Racist and Rude employees of Viewnet Low Yat
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Mar 22 2013, 07:10 PM
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3,848 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Ampang |
Claim warranty with them from January now entering April already part not yet arrive!
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Mar 22 2013, 07:10 PM
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355 posts Joined: Jul 2012 |
interesting....
when a Malay or Indian says something about the Chinese, it doesn't matter what is the real meaning or reason or even intentions. It will be deemed as racist. But when the Chinese say racist words/phrases or even act racist in terms of how they treat other races, IT IS PERFECTLY OKAY! So many ways of translating it....this meaning that meaning. I speak Cantonese and Mandarin fluently and yet i know what the sellers said was racist! No 2 ways about it. |
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Mar 22 2013, 10:56 PM
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55 posts Joined: Feb 2012 From: Kedah |
Hope that kind of employee can take action by their boss..
This post has been edited by Marz CJy: Mar 22 2013, 11:01 PM |
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Mar 23 2013, 01:26 AM
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0 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
haak yan as in 客人; guest or visitor, in your case customer.
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Mar 23 2013, 04:58 PM
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721 posts Joined: May 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur |
But they normally call customer as hak zai also
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Mar 23 2013, 06:06 PM
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2,834 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: here |
Justifying the pronunciation is useless especially to those who already INSIST they heard the "bad version". ignorance can be damaging and we cant force people to read/learn more coz they're not obligated too (and its not even in school syllabus/history books)
I wonder how frequent are cantonese speaking people being 'forced to eat dead cat" because other non-cantonese hearing people overheard them, then butthurt.. then finally spread / makes conclusion (usually off-site, back home, in online forum and with own group ) that they are racist/insensitive . All because of misinterpreted verbal phrases. This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Mar 23 2013, 06:08 PM |
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Mar 23 2013, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(alvin2912 @ Mar 22 2013, 07:10 PM) interesting.... Were you there with TS? How could you know what was meant, when TS only mentioned the two words? Nobody could tell without hearing the whole sentence. Even with my piss poor Cantonese and non-existent Mandarin, I know that words in Cantonese and Mandarin are very vague, when heard out of the context of a sentence.when a Malay or Indian says something about the Chinese, it doesn't matter what is the real meaning or reason or even intentions. It will be deemed as racist. But when the Chinese say racist words/phrases or even act racist in terms of how they treat other races, IT IS PERFECTLY OKAY! So many ways of translating it....this meaning that meaning. I speak Cantonese and Mandarin fluently and yet i know what the sellers said was racist! No 2 ways about it. It is a problem that does not exist with languages like English and Malay. When your son asks you how to spell a Malay or English word, you just tell him. When your friend asks you how to write a Chinese "word", it always needs to be put in the context of a short sentence or phrase. There'll be a short period of back and forth while he tries to communicate exactly which word is meant. I do not read or write Chinese myself. When I ask a friend to write it for me, or type it into a computer, this always happens. |
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Mar 23 2013, 09:45 PM
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Mar 23 2013, 10:42 PM
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11,400 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
A little bit of knowledge leads to misunderstanding. If you only learn the cuss words, then you'll think people are cursing you all the time.
Even if you're dark skinned, Chinese speaking people will not slur you by calling you "dark people" or "black people". "Black people" is not a racial slur. It's just a normal word that means "black Africans". The slur is "black skin". |
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Mar 24 2013, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(aaronsuarez95 @ Mar 22 2013, 10:58 PM) yes they do use haak chai too, old skool cantonese normally uses haak yan or yan haakTS haak yan could meaning 3 different things depending on the tone it could be ; haak yan as in a hakka haak yan as in a customer haak yan as in a black person.... if it was mean to be an insult he'll be calling you haak guai instead, or something more harsh there are plenty... Anyway you believe whatever you want i guess. |
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Mar 24 2013, 09:15 AM
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Mar 24 2013, 09:17 AM
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131 posts Joined: Mar 2010 From: Bima Sakti |
the worker is right to say those words to you ....coz after Andy apologize to you...yet still u open a thread here and bash them
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Mar 25 2013, 12:47 AM
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report to hindraf. im serious.
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Mar 25 2013, 01:28 AM
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672 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
PJ Digital Mall is way better.
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Mar 25 2013, 09:24 AM
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Mar 25 2013, 09:31 AM
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586 posts Joined: Jul 2010 |
bla bla bla.
everyone is a racist in malaysia (and i mean everyone). deal with it. |
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Mar 25 2013, 09:32 AM
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My indian friend did misunderstood once as well. Haak Yan & Haak chai....he thought they are refering to him as a "blackie".....that is not the case. I explained to my friend those words are to refer to a "customer" in cantonese. Problem does crop up when the other races trying to decipher cantonese in an "expert" way.
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Mar 25 2013, 10:49 AM
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413 posts Joined: Nov 2008 From: Cyberjaya, Selangor |
Wow suddenly become so defensive with a lot of language expert explaining. When malay or indian say some thing, straight away mark them racist. That workers is racist and rude, if not this thread wont be opened.
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Mar 25 2013, 11:59 AM
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360 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
coz babi quite easy to understand?
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Mar 25 2013, 02:49 PM
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14 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
The beauty of being Malaysian, where you learned other people's mother tongue so you understand perfectly well what others say, but they don't understand you.
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