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Investment LAKEFRONT CYBERJAYA | PR1MA LAKEFRONT [OT], Villa | Acorus Brasenia Caldesia Diandra

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mamushka
post Mar 30 2017, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(pr1ma_owner @ Mar 30 2017, 12:11 PM)
Thank you for your reply Sir.

My point here is not about discounts.

But I want PR1MA to ensure consistent prices across the projects.

Don't you think it's unfair for the buyers to be paying more for something that's worse?

Not only that, potential buyers of Lakefront Cyberjaya keep on thinking there are only about 2,000 units, but in actual fact, there'll be about 4,000 units!!!

DOUBLE than their expectations. So I want this messaging to be out there and being considered before the buyers make the final decision.
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Ok Sir its ok..potential buyers should have looked into the possible problems that might arise and they will make a fair decision into getting the property (like me). Again, it is not like we can choose which property we will get for PR1MA..only 400+ units in Cyberjaya2 so i wish you all the best in getting that unit.

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post Mar 30 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(mamushka @ Mar 30 2017, 12:20 PM)
Ok Sir its ok..potential buyers should have looked into the possible problems that might arise and they will make a fair decision into getting the property (like me). Again, it is not like we can choose which property we will get for PR1MA..only 400+ units in Cyberjaya2 so i wish you all the best in getting that unit.
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Thank you for your kind response Sir.

I don't actually get it when you say the potential buyers should have looked into the possible problems that might arise and they will make a fair decision into getting the property (like you).

How can they make a fair decision when they do not get the true facts and the complete picture?

Many would have thought only less than 2,000 units, BUT in actual fact, the number will be DOUBLE to 4,000 units.

Please enlighten me on how can the potential buyers make a fair decision without knowing the facts and figures?
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post Mar 30 2017, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(pr1ma_owner @ Mar 30 2017, 12:24 PM)
Thank you for your kind response Sir.

I don't actually get it when you say the potential buyers should have looked into the possible problems that might arise and they will make a fair decision into getting the property (like you).

How can they make a fair decision when they do not get the true facts and the complete picture?

Many would have thought only less than 2,000 units, BUT in actual fact, the number will be DOUBLE to 4,000 units.

Please enlighten me on how can the potential buyers make a fair decision without knowing the facts and figures?
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When money and loan is a concern ..all the other aspects will be taken into consideration before signing. Especially if this the first home.
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post Mar 30 2017, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(mamushka @ Mar 30 2017, 12:28 PM)
When money and loan is a concern ..all the other aspects will be taken into consideration before signing. Especially if this the first home.
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Thank you for your kind response Sir.

Ya we always assume that.

But many potential buyers simply look at PR1MA website and see 1,900++ units and make their decision.

Just imagine this ya, with 4,000 units and with average family with 2 or 3 kids, that will be 20,000 people.

Can you imagine how the swimming pool will be with the usage by 20,000 people?

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post Mar 30 2017, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(pr1ma_owner @ Mar 30 2017, 12:32 PM)
Thank you for your kind response Sir.

Ya we always assume that.

But many potential buyers simply look at PR1MA website and see 1,900++ units and make their decision.

Just imagine this ya, with 4,000 units and with average family with 2 or 3 kids, that will be 20,000 people.

Can you imagine how the swimming pool will be with the usage by 20,000 people?

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Tbh high density facilities is shyt especially those kiam siap noob developer that provide 1 swimming pool for 1-2k units.

Gym room with 3 basikal and few dumbbell, and that's they called full.facilities condo. What a shyt...

I hope buyers consider very thoroughly before commit into high density residence no matter private or govt project. The private project won't give u anything better, please wake up those dreamers.

2k units sharing facilities lol, rather stay normal low dense apartment sudah.

And lastly fark those kiam siap greedy liar crook developer, go to helllll for them and their high density products.
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post Mar 30 2017, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Mar 30 2017, 12:43 PM)
Tbh high density facilities is shyt especially those kiam siap noob developer that provide 1 swimming pool for 1-2k units.

Gym room with 3 basikal and few dumbbell, and that's they called full.facilities condo. What a shyt...

I hope buyers consider very thoroughly before commit into high density residence no matter private or govt project. The private project won't give u anything better, please wake up those dreamers.

2k units sharing facilities lol, rather stay normal low dense apartment sudah.

And lastly fark those kiam siap greedy liar crook developer, go to helllll for them and their high density products.
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Thank you for your wise comments Sir.

I fully agree with you that the very high dense project such as Cyberjaya Lakefront of total units amounting to 4,000 is way way wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much to handle.

I think the developer is trying to squeeze out whatever they can from here.

It's not easy to make money out of PR1MA projects, but sometimes developers cut corners until it becomes a LIABILITY, thus disadvantaging and burdening their buyers.


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post Mar 30 2017, 09:28 PM

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pr1ma_owner you got which pr1ma unit actually?
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post Mar 30 2017, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(cedm @ Mar 30 2017, 11:54 AM)
Don't buy it then. I'm serious. You spent the entire morning bitching about PR1MA Lakefront. Now, if your intention is to talk bad about the project just to get some discount, good luck, but no need to spam the thread. Save your time and energy and go negotiate with the developer directly.
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For those who wish to stay @ Cyberjaya with affordable price

NEVER MISS IT!!!

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post Mar 30 2017, 11:42 PM

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Seem this lakefront pr1ma is much hot topic than normal lakefront?
pr1ma_owner
post Mar 31 2017, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE((0_0) @ Mar 30 2017, 11:32 PM)
why everyone is complaining bout high dense? if can afford just pay twice of opposite non pr1ma unit. This thread is all about pr1ma, any non pr1ma lakefront cyber buyer here?
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Thank you for your kind response Sir.

I wish to make it clear here we must ensure apple to apple comparison. Otherwise it will be an unfair comparison.

DO NOT compare PR1MA projects with normal private projects. It's as simple as that.

It is not right to compare the PR1MA Cyberjaya Lakefront to the one opposite of non-PR1MA units there.

PLEASE do not compare PR1MA with non-PR1MA projects, cos they are not similar.

So if we look at apple to apple comparison for this PR1MA Cyberjaya Lakefront, the closest comparable is the PR1MA Cyberjaya 2, by Gadang.

Cyberjaya 2 is located in a better location (i.e. nearer to CBD), have much much lower density with only 469 units compared to Cyberjaya Lakefront of about 4,200 units (combining phases 1 and 2).

HOWEVER, out of a sudden Cyberjaya Lakefront is charging higher with a higher price tag than Cyberjaya 2.

The number one issue here is about the density. Is it not RIDICULOUS to be making 4,200 units cramping in one project?

EVEN the very low cost housing does not have density as bad as this. WHy should PR1MA allow this to happen, when PR1MA is supposed to attract the middle income with salary up to RM 15K per month???

So, let me ask again, is this fair to the future buyers?


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post Mar 31 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE((0_0) @ Mar 30 2017, 11:32 PM)
why everyone is complaining bout high dense? if can afford just pay twice of opposite non pr1ma unit. This thread is all about pr1ma, any non pr1ma lakefront cyber buyer here?
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There are a few here and i am one of them if you got any questions. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pr1ma_owner @ Mar 31 2017, 08:24 AM)
Thank you for your kind response Sir.

I wish to make it clear here we must ensure apple to apple comparison. Otherwise it will be an unfair comparison.

DO NOT compare PR1MA projects with normal private projects. It's as simple as that.

It is not right to compare the PR1MA Cyberjaya Lakefront to the one opposite of non-PR1MA units there.

PLEASE do not compare PR1MA with non-PR1MA projects, cos they are not similar.

So if we look at apple to apple comparison for this PR1MA Cyberjaya Lakefront, the closest comparable is the PR1MA Cyberjaya 2, by Gadang.

Cyberjaya 2 is located in a better location (i.e. nearer to CBD), have much much lower density with only 469 units compared to Cyberjaya Lakefront of about 4,200 units (combining phases 1 and 2).

HOWEVER, out of a sudden Cyberjaya Lakefront is charging higher with a higher price tag than Cyberjaya 2.

The number one issue here is about the density. Is it not RIDICULOUS to be making 4,200 units cramping in one project?

EVEN the very low cost housing does not have density as bad as this. WHy should PR1MA allow this to happen, when PR1MA is supposed to attract the middle income with salary up to RM 15K per month???

So, let me ask again, is this fair to the future buyers?
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So you got the prima cyberjaya 2 lah ?

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post Mar 31 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(pr1ma_owner @ Mar 31 2017, 08:24 AM)
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Just to sum things up, what do you actually want in the end? You're not happy with the high density, I get that. But it's really just a take it or leave it situation. If you're worried about other potential buyers, I don't think that anyone willing to spend RM 280k is going to sign a SPA without reading it nor ask the sales agents any question. Nobody's being forced nor tricked into buying this project. Or did you just signed the SPA and now regret it?
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QUOTE(cedm @ Mar 31 2017, 11:04 AM)
Just to sum things up, what do you actually want in the end? You're not happy with the high density, I get that. But it's really just a take it or leave it situation. If you're worried about other potential buyers, I don't think that anyone willing to spend RM 280k is going to sign a SPA without reading it nor ask the sales agents any question. Nobody's being forced nor tricked into buying this project. Or did you just signed the SPA and now regret it?
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Ya man haha what he/she really want act? At the end of the day, prima's price is still relatively below market value. With different prices comes with different perks.
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post Mar 31 2017, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(cedm @ Mar 31 2017, 11:04 AM)
Just to sum things up, what do you actually want in the end? You're not happy with the high density, I get that. But it's really just a take it or leave it situation. If you're worried about other potential buyers, I don't think that anyone willing to spend RM 280k is going to sign a SPA without reading it nor ask the sales agents any question. Nobody's being forced nor tricked into buying this project. Or did you just signed the SPA and now regret it?
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Thank you Sir for your kind comments.

I am only questioning the fairness of PR1MA in this.

These two similar projects are both in Cyberjaya.

But surprisingly the one that's so much more DENSE is offering at a higher price.

I really wonder why can't PR1MA ensure the best value across all future PR1MA buyers.


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post Mar 31 2017, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(UsopSontorian @ Mar 31 2017, 11:23 AM)
Ya man haha what he/she really want act? At the end of the day, prima's price is still relatively below market value. With different prices comes with different perks.
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Thank you Sir for your kind comments.

As I said, please DO NOT compare PR1MA projects with non-PR1MA projects.

If you wanna make a comparison, please compare PR1MA projects with other PR1MA projects.

It must be on an apple to apple basis comparison.

So here as I've stated, Cyberjaya 2 is offering better value with much much less density, but why on Earth, that PR1MA Cyberjaya LAkefront's price tag comes in at a higher price?


Isn't it unfair to the future buyers of this project? When PR1MA has also approved another project at Cyberjaya 2 which has much much lower density (only 469 units compared to Cyberjaya :akefront of 4,200 units) as well as better location wise which is nearer to CBD, but offering lower price tag than PR1MA Cyberjaya Lakefront.

To be honest, many buyers of this project thought the number of units will be 1,900++ only. But they didn't know it'd be 4,000 units in the end.

So without proper knowledge, can they make a sound and wise decision?
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QUOTE((0_0) @ Mar 31 2017, 03:03 PM)
When and how much u bought? Which tower? WHy are u willing to pay such a high price ? non pr1ma price is about twice than lakefront pr1ma.
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When and how much u bought? Which tower?
Ans: I bought last year october. Tower 3, Type F which is 1300 Sqft (Dual Key concepts - 950 sqft unit attached with a 350 sqft Studio unit.). Price around 600k after rebates.

Why are u willing to pay such a high price ?
Firstly i liked the concept and it comes semi furnished. Second is price per sqft is pretty low among all other private projects in Cyber which is value for money. And third it is located beside Eco Glades and MCT Lake Front Villas means that the condo has to maintain a certain standard since MCT is selling it as a "luxury" condo. And last will be the chinese school which will attract more own stay buyers then investors. Lol.

I not so fortunate to get the chance to buy Pr1ma project.
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QUOTE((0_0) @ Mar 31 2017, 03:03 PM)
When and how much u bought? Which tower? WHy are u willing to pay such a high price ? non pr1ma price is about twice than lakefront pr1ma.
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I also bought Lakefront Residence, T4. Same price and unit type as frozenkid, just on a different block.

I bought it because I like the unit (dual key concept; a 3-bedroom with an attached studio). It has good, higher-end facilities: see-through elevators, roof garden & infinity pool on every block, and more common facilities shared with the other blocks. It's also not built on a multi-level car park podium (I hate that). Price-wise, it was within my budget and I consider it value for (my) money.

PR1MA has never been on my radar. I just don't have any interest in it, no matter how low they sell it. It's just a bare-bone condo with basic facilities only. And I just learnt they squeeze 24 units per floor. Yuck.
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wondering how you claim that laman view (the other pr1ma) is nearer to CBD? location wise lakefront is much better, nearer to all the amenities.
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post Mar 31 2017, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(teNtiOn @ Mar 31 2017, 04:16 PM)
wondering how you claim that laman view (the other pr1ma) is nearer to CBD? location wise lakefront is much better, nearer to all the amenities.
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Thank you for your comment.

First, you must know where CBD area is.

Then just google map and see yourself from Cyberjaya 2 to CBD area and between Cyberjaya Lakfront to CBD area.

Hope this helps

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