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Investment LAKEFRONT CYBERJAYA | PR1MA LAKEFRONT [OT], Villa | Acorus Brasenia Caldesia Diandra

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post Jan 17 2017, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(ericialutte @ Jan 14 2017, 06:49 PM)
I thought is bottom left? (Correct me if I'm wrong)

Went earlier cause I change my slot to today. Booked my unit but asked the counter SA many times they didn't collect a single cents from me. I tot need to pay RM1000 as booking?

SA told me legal fees all will be paid by developer.
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Anyone in here knows how much is the legal fees, SPA, stamp duty, maintenance fee and sinking funds for the unit of RM 280k PR1MA @ Cyberjaya Lakefront please?
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post Jan 18 2017, 04:10 PM

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Hi guys! Anyone in here that knows how much is the maintenance fee, sinking fund and any other charges we have to pay?
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post Jan 19 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(neobita @ Jan 19 2017, 10:02 AM)
if let say people couldn't get a loan. would they offer R.T.O (Rent To Own) and if anybody is already on rto, what is your experience?

http://www.pr1ma.my/rto.php?lang=bm
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Hi! I do not have any experience. But I think PR1MA cannot possibly offer RTO scheme to all those who are not eligible. Maybe just a small portion will get it cos the developers would surely want full payment once they have completely built the condo.

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post Jan 27 2017, 10:55 AM

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Guys, with RM 104 maintenance fee and sinking fund, if the residents do not pay, can we bring them to the court of justice immediately?
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post Jan 31 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(small_boat @ Jan 28 2017, 02:53 PM)
u worry u can't afford it? rm100 is the least amount for maintenance fees among condos of cyber, u shuld be grateful.
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Hi! No. Actually I'm worried because there are so many facilities and the population concentration ratio is extremely high, to be honest. Cos right now I'm staying in a condo with total units of 180 and feeling over-crowded already and with vandalism going on as well as many homeowners not paying the maintenance fee and sinking fund, thus making all the facilities such an eyesore with poorly maintained amenities and dysfunctional facilities.

So with PR1MA at Cyerjaya Lakefront having about 2,000 units and so many facilities to maintain, if the homeowners do not pay, then this project will deteriorate very fast. That's why I'm asking if there are mechanisms to force the homeowners to take maintenance fee and sinking fund very very SERIOUSLY, and pay all the fees as they due. For example, those PTPTN, if they do not pay, it will affect their CCRIS and cannot go overseas. Can we make maintenance fee and sinking fund also something like this at least?

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post Jan 31 2017, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jan 31 2017, 10:33 AM)
With thr latest new ACT on strata title...it is criminal not pay...criminal ok? Lol...can be jailed and fined via tribunal. Aloy ppls still not aware the changed and think they can choose not to pay. JMB need to know well about the Act and enforce it. See below.
http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...property-lawyer
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Thank you so much for clarifying. Sometimes, I notice that the JMB is not strict enough to bring all cases to the tribunal that you said. Reason being, the committees, especially the President are close with many neighbours, including the ones who have not been paying.

I'm not so sure how to go about this, but I would really hope that PR1MA can really monitor and advice JMB well. Cos sometimes the human factor comes in, and finally those residents do not pay for months and months and in my case, more than 5 years already some of them didn't pay a single cent!
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post Feb 2 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(khir_titanium @ Feb 1 2017, 01:26 AM)
hi

i notice sunset will be like this
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If this is the case, then I think people would prefer to take the side that's facing the swiming pool, to avoid the heat in the afternoon? =)
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post Feb 3 2017, 09:00 AM

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Hi! I was made known that a lot of PR1MA properties can't be sold. So is there any possibility for MCT to give extra rebates please?
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post Feb 3 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(cedm @ Feb 3 2017, 09:49 AM)
What do you mean by "can't be sold"? Ballot winners not eligible/not interested? I was under the impression that the demand far exceeded the offer, unless people simply applied with no real intention to buy...
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I mean, many loan applications have been declined by the banks and developers can't find buyers for the units in the end. I give you one example, PR1MA Alam Damai. Many many rounds of balloting and now open for anybody who meets the criteria to buy. But still many unsold units there.

Government realises this and has reduced the moratorium by 50% to 5 years only and increased the income eligibility by 50% to RM 15k.

However, if developers still can't sell off the units, I hope they can start reducing the prices gradually to ensure that all units can be sold off immediately. I do not want PR1MA projects to be held by developers even after full completion later.

Think about it, Cyberjaya lakefront has about 2,000 units. Do you seriously think that MCT can sell all PR1MA units? I do not think so in the current bad and soft market where banks are very very strict to give financing especially to the middle income earners.
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post Feb 3 2017, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(cedm @ Feb 3 2017, 11:19 AM)
I see. I'm a bit surprised, I thought Pr1ma vetted all applications to make sure it matches eligibility criteria. Apparently, they didn't really look into the applicants ability to get a loan. As for Pr1ma Lakefront, that link I gave mentioned that more than 8700 applications were made for the ~1900 available units. With that kind of number, even with 75% loan rejection rate, there'd still be enough applicants to fill the vacancies.

By the way, I don't really understand how Pr1ma applicants can fail to get such small loans. The units only costs RM270k if I'm not mistaken, so ~RM320/sqft. That's peanuts for a household income of RM10k/month. Now, eligibility has even been extended to household incomes up to RM15k/month. My household income is below that, yet I can easily afford Lakefront Residence and settle the loan in just a few years.
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The cost is RM 280k I think.

To be honest with you, not only that the loan rejection rate is high for PR1MA projects, the other thing is, many people who registered, backed off!

Reason being is that, when they applied for PR1MA, they didn't have a house. But due to a very long waiting list and they also do not know whether they'll be lucky for their names to be balloted, so they have already bought their own homes or have made other kinds of arrangements.

That's why you see that even if you have many applicants, in the end many units cannot be sold.

This is the fact, you can even go and see Alam Damai. Almost completing, but at least 30% are unsold. You yourself can go and apply for the units today if you want, provided that you meet the eligibility criteria.
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post Feb 6 2017, 12:30 PM

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If someone has already secured 100% financing worth RM 270k to buy PR1MA @ Cyberjaya Lakefront, can he / she still withdraw money from EPF account and just keep the money?
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post Feb 6 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 6 2017, 01:01 PM)
If he just purchased the house he can withdraw the cash. Its like EPF refund back the personal cash he se to pay the downpayment, legal fee and stamp duty of the house.

But if its already quite some time purchased then yes. He can only iwithdraw monthly loan amount to subsidize hes loan payment or he can withdraw all to reduce the principle amount on his bank loan.
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Thank you for your reply.

However, I didn't pay a single cent for downpayment as it's 100% financing for PR1MA. Secondly, the SPA, legal fees and stamp duty have all been priced in the RM 270k by MCT.

SO will I still get to withdraw from my EPF Account 2 Sir / Madam?
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post Feb 14 2017, 08:10 AM

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How much is the progress payment for interest that we need to pay until the construction is completed in 2021 / 2022?
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post Feb 27 2017, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(andy_lyy @ Feb 27 2017, 10:53 AM)
Now is buyer power..

from my observation.
- The pr1ma has raised the price from RM273k to RM280k for cyberjaya lakefront.
- MoU of transfer being shorten from 10 years to 5 years
- income range being raised to RM15k

to me RM280k is overprice now at the current situation and pr1ma still wanna raise the price.

i got the offer as well, however i ll wait n c pr1ma to revise the price as RM280k for a 850sqft is totally not affordable.

look at the website, more projects reopen again. lets say no to the overprice project... again, now is buyer power.
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I agree with you Andy. To me, similar properties by private developers can also offer about similar price. If PR1MA wanna give 20% below market price, it should be about RM 230k. Anything above RM 250k for 850 sq ft in Cyberjaya for PR1MA is way too expensive. It's your own LOSS. Thank you
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post Feb 28 2017, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(ecitenoid @ Feb 28 2017, 11:04 AM)
i got the offer too.

any idea how do i turn down this offer? do i need just make a call or i must present myself at the event and tell them personally?
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Hurmmm... I'm not sure how to turn down the offer. I guess they will assume that you're no longer interested if you don't sign the SPA after a certain period of time?
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post Mar 1 2017, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(kellyooi7 @ Feb 28 2017, 11:24 PM)
Hi. May I know which property which is private developer offer similar price with this cyberjaya lakefront? I'm interested. As what I think for this cyberjaya is quite high density. In dilemma whether to get a unit here or not. Was invited to select unit this coming sat sad.gif
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Cyberia man.

To be honest I was put off by 3 bad things on this project:

1) It's way too small at 850 sq ft

2) It's way too highly populated, upon completion pr1ma will have about 2,000 units, the other private arm will have 2.000++ units... so altogether will have more than 4,000 units, whcih to me is just CRAZYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

3) The price is really expensive man. At RM 280k, this is not significantly below market price. With very soft property market, I think at best MCT can only sell 50% of the units, while another 50% will be overhanged units and remain unsold

Thank you
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post Mar 2 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Mar 2 2017, 09:40 AM)
doesnt look good
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Ya man. To be honest, property market is slow now. But doing like 4,000 plus plus units in CYBERJAYA is crazy. I mean, there's no way they can sell off all units even after the construction is completed.

I may be wrong, but under the current situation and looking ahead, the prospects are not that great either.

There will be many many UNSOLD units in my point of view.

My suggestion is to wait and monitor this situation. If the situation gets worse, than the developer will surely give more discounts. At the end of the day it's supply and demand issue.

From the supply side, yes MCT will build thousands and thousands of units for this Lakefront Cyberjaya project.

Fro, the demand side, it's up to the buyers and potential buyers...

If they feel that developer should lower the price, then hold off buying or go and negotiate with MCT.

Again, I could be wrong man. I'm not an expert in this property area.
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post Mar 2 2017, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 2 2017, 02:06 PM)
Wow 280k oso cery expensive for you.

You can try for PPRT scheme or buy subsale flat. Maybe the price range suits you.
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Yes I'm not shy to say that I'm from low-income group. But I really thought PR1MA would be significantly below market price.

But with that high concentration ratio, very small unit and location wise in Cyberjaya not in KL, I don't think RM 280k is significantly below market price.
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post Mar 2 2017, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Mar 2 2017, 04:03 PM)
If I remember correctly, Pr1ma is average about 20% lower than market rate. It's not low cost house.
So what u think is the market rate? If the formula above, 80% of 350k is about 280k. So how much lower can it be?
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Yes I agree that PR1MA is not a low cost housing project. But comparison that's made must be similar. Here PR1MA got extremely high concentration ratio. You can't compare it with other projects that do not have such a sky-rocketing concentration ratio man.


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post Mar 2 2017, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 2 2017, 06:33 PM)
Brother, tell me how much price you can afford?

Not to look down on people but sometimes ppl need to get some reality check and look in the mirror.

You want 180k-220k apartment 800-825sqft?

Can no problem. Rumah selangorku/prima/wip even private developer also got...

Location: Semenyih, Kajang, Rawang, Behrang, Sepang.
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Thanks man for your suggestion.

My only issue is that, given the high concentration ratio and 850 sq ft, and on top of that all the incentives that PR1MA gets and their onjective to provide 20% below market price, do you think RM 280k is 20% below market price?

Even after considering the HIGH concentration ratio?

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