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Investment PR1MA ALAM DAMAI [OWNERS' THREAD], 1st Affordable Housing for KL launched!!

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dave1987
post Apr 9 2019, 09:21 PM

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Sold out now.. Within a month..
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QUOTE(BoonieTan @ Apr 9 2019, 08:19 PM)
Why not? The take up rate in Alam Damai before HOC was extremely poor, around 50% despite being completed for more than a year.

Giving discount would no doubt anger the existing buyers but the new buyers would be grateful to the government. And if all go well, by the time next election, the market price around that area rebound because of higher occupancy rate, there's no saying support won't return to the government.
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Let us boycott PH from now because they think their head is bigger after becoeming government.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Apr 9 2019, 06:26 PM)
PH will not get cheras people vote in next GE15, if this happen.
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This part is Banda Tu Rasa zone.
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I see folks who bought before the HOC campaign complaining at PR1MA's fb page on being shortchanged, but I wonder if they took the extra step to lodge an official complaint to the Housing Ministry or HBA on this...
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post Apr 18 2019, 05:46 PM

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anyone pay valuation fees for this pr1ma? how much ?
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is there any whatapps group for the owner? Please pm me if there is any.... thumbup.gif
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post Jun 3 2019, 10:53 AM

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If 3rd class mentality people insist dun wan to pay.. What is the current regulation and any impact on the current residence who is paying?
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post Jun 4 2019, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(erronous @ Jun 3 2019, 10:53 AM)
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QUOTE(dave1987 @ Jun 3 2019, 11:42 AM)
If 3rd class mentality people insist dun wan to pay.. What is the current regulation and any impact on the current residence who is paying?
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I noticed the whole thread was deleted by the moderator. With regards to residents not paying the monthly maintenance fees, it is certainly bad taste on their part as not paying the maintenance fees is akin to not paying rent or house loan, at least to me. Perhaps the non-paying residents think it is a norm to not pay the maintenance fees thinking that there will be no major action that canbe taken against them, and for the fact that other residents who pay the maintenance fees will assist to cover the shortcomings or shortfall of the collection.

I presume it is a norm for the management to put up the names of all non-paying residents together with their unit numbers on the notice board of the building as an announcement to compel these people to pay up the outstanding sum. Nevertheless, to what extent the notice may be effective is everyone's guess. From what I understand, the list shows a mixture of owners who haven't moved in to the units and owners who are already staying in the units for months.
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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jun 4 2019, 10:54 AM)
I noticed the whole thread was deleted by the moderator. With regards to residents not paying the monthly maintenance fees, it is certainly bad taste on their part as not paying the maintenance fees is akin to not paying rent or house loan, at least to me. Perhaps the non-paying residents think it is a norm to not pay the maintenance fees thinking that there will be no major action that canbe taken against them, and for the fact that other residents who pay the maintenance fees will assist to cover the shortcomings or shortfall of the collection.

I presume it is a norm for the management to put up the names of all non-paying residents together with their unit numbers on the notice board of the building as an announcement to compel these people to pay up the outstanding sum. Nevertheless, to what extent the notice may be effective is everyone's guess. From what I understand, the list shows a mixture of owners who haven't moved in to the units and owners who are already staying in the units for months.
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If you don't pay maintenance, you will force to fork out a large sum of cash to pay all those outstanding cost before you can sell the house inclusive the interest charges. Or, it was also depending on the management to use the strata law to punish you.

Think twice before you decide not to pay maintenance fee.

Read here... Old article...

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...-lawyer/1215899

Maintenance fee defaulters can be fined, jailed via tribunal, property lawyers say

Published 2 years ago on 28 September 2016

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 28 — Those living in high-rises and default on their maintenance fees can be brought to a strata tribunal by the Joint Management Bodies (JMB) where they can be made to pay hefty fines, according to lawyers who deal with the industry.

The Strata Management Tribunal (SM Tribunal) was set up under the Strata Management Act 2013 where property owners or tenants who fail to pay maintenance charges can be charged for committing a criminal offence.

Real estate lawyer Khairul Anuar said at a time where the payment of service charges have become a problem for high rise residences, JMBs should enforce the use of the tribunal to compel their tenants pay up.

“There is the strata management tribunal that can help any management to collect the fees owed by the tenants.

“This can be done without any legal procedure and through the tribunal. This is a short cut for them to collect the dues. There is no more reason for them (JMB) to say residents are refusing to pay,” he told Malay Mail Online when contacted.

The SM Tribunal can hear cases involving claims up to RM250,000 in a hearing process that takes up to 60 days. There are also no lawyers involved in the process.

Section 123 of the Strata Management Act also empowers the tribunal to forward the case to a court if the person charged fails to comply with the Tribunal’s decision.

“Any person who fails to comply with an award made by the tribunal commits an offence and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding RM250,000 or imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years, or both.

“In the case of a continuing offence, to a further fine not exceeding RM5,000 for every day or part thereof, during which the offence continues after conviction,” the section reads.

Other than the tribunal, another real estate lawyer, Chris Tan, explained that there also other ways where the JMB can make their tenants to cough up maintenance fees.

Among the methods he suggested include referring the case to the Commissioner of Buildings or even putting restrictions on facilities at high-rises.

“The management can enforce restrictions on those who fail to pay like not letting them use the condominium facilities or even making them sign visitors book when entering the premises.

“They also can go through the Commissioner and at times can result in actions like taking away their cars, electrical appliances and stuff like that as compensation,” Tan told Malay Mail Online.

If at all the situation here worsens, Tan believes that Malaysia should follow Singapore in seizing and auctioning off defaulters’ units to recover arrears.

He conceded, however, that it will be hard to apply the same rules here as mostly properties here are privately owned compared to the Housing and Development Board (HDB) public housing in Singapore.

Earlier this year, it was reported that over 1,192 cases have been filed at the Strata Management Tribunal since the start of 2016.

The problems with high-rise living and their maintenance have been a growing pain in Malaysia over the past few years as strata properties increase.

A survey by the Urban Wellbeing, Housing and Local Government Ministry last week revealed that more than half of condominiums and apartments nationwide ranked below par in an evaluation of property management standards.

Among the major problems that resulted in such standards were the fact that some residents in condominiums are refusing to pay maintenance fees. Other problems included building defects and matters involving enforcement.

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jun 4 2019, 10:54 AM)
I noticed the whole thread was deleted by the moderator. With regards to residents not paying the monthly maintenance fees, it is certainly bad taste on their part as not paying the maintenance fees is akin to not paying rent or house loan, at least to me. Perhaps the non-paying residents think it is a norm to not pay the maintenance fees thinking that there will be no major action that canbe taken against them, and for the fact that other residents who pay the maintenance fees will assist to cover the shortcomings or shortfall of the collection.

I presume it is a norm for the management to put up the names of all non-paying residents together with their unit numbers on the notice board of the building as an announcement to compel these people to pay up the outstanding sum. Nevertheless, to what extent the notice may be effective is everyone's guess. From what I understand, the list shows a mixture of owners who haven't moved in to the units and owners who are already staying in the units for months.
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law is law, are JMP will action against those not paying maintenance fees? this important
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post Jun 11 2019, 02:18 PM

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995sqft with 2 carpark is rm295k
Izit good buy? blink.gif

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post Jun 12 2019, 09:43 AM

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Personal review (biased because i bought an unit there recently)

Pro:
Good mature township (you need to go there to review the surrounding on your own)
Near to amenity - school, bank, food, etc
Future SUKE highway just outside the main road
Low maintenance cost
Lowest in the segment of price vs sqft with nearby apartment.

Con:
High Density, have chance of bad maintenance due to unable to control the human behaviour, however base on the current tenant, everyone seem to be reasonable good neighbour.
Quality of the rendered cement alot the walkway make it look terrible. However, inside the house quality is reasonable.

Personal perception, its a good place to invest, i think it will appreciate and its a good desirable location for me to stay with the time to come as its selling below market value as the developer try to sold off a massive 1000 unit unsold. Within 2 - 3 weeks all unit was sold off but some of the buyer does not meet the bank requirement (reject loan) or found another option out there.

With the upcoming of Emerald Hill (Guocoland) and Cemara Hill (IJN) with new shoplot nearby, this location unlikely to sold lower than the current price.





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QUOTE(half_lif3 @ Jun 11 2019, 02:18 PM)
995sqft with 2 carpark is rm295k
Izit good buy?  blink.gif
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is tat really cheap, still available?
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QUOTE(KSHKK @ Jun 12 2019, 10:01 AM)
is tat really cheap, still available?
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yes but limited.
Went to Prima Alam Damai last saturday.
Still considering about the offer icon_question.gif
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post Jun 18 2019, 11:07 AM

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i just visited this project..in term of price is good to go for a buy,just i personally feel the corridor was to narrow but the unit type was good enough
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QUOTE(erronous @ Jun 12 2019, 09:43 AM)
Personal review (biased because i bought an unit there recently)

Pro:
Good mature township (you need to go there to review the surrounding on your own)
Near to amenity - school, bank, food, etc
Future SUKE highway just outside the main road
Low maintenance cost
Lowest in the segment of price vs sqft with nearby apartment.

Con:
High Density, have chance of bad maintenance due to unable to control the human behaviour, however base on the current tenant, everyone seem to be reasonable good neighbour.
Quality of the rendered cement alot the walkway make it look terrible. However, inside the house quality is reasonable.

Personal perception, its a good place to invest, i think it will appreciate and its a good desirable location for me to stay with the time to come as its selling below market value as the developer try to sold off a massive 1000 unit unsold. Within 2 - 3 weeks all unit was sold off but some of the buyer does not meet the bank requirement (reject loan) or found another option out there.

With the upcoming of Emerald Hill (Guocoland) and Cemara Hill (IJN) with new shoplot nearby, this location unlikely to sold lower than the current price.
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crazily JAM, too high dense.. but 1000 sqft below 300k + ready move in = can consider
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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Mar 31 2019, 11:26 AM)
The first photo is not a defect as it is likely a hole made Onn the wall to repair something. The defect shown in the second photo is a common one at most louvred windows at the side of the building when rain water seeps through the gap causing marks on the wall. They have carried out the first repairs previously at the louvre windows area at the high floors(not the one shown in the photo above) by plaster and repaint but minor leakage is still occurring. They are now coming up with a permanent solution for this rain water leak issue through the louvre windows. Perhaps converting the louvre to glass windows like the one shown in the photo above and sealing the edges with silicon to prevent water leakage.
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LOL second photo is common?

Other condo won't have such issue..

It's an obvious evidence of SUBPAR quality
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jun 4 2019, 10:54 AM)
I noticed the whole thread was deleted by the moderator. With regards to residents not paying the monthly maintenance fees, it is certainly bad taste on their part as not paying the maintenance fees is akin to not paying rent or house loan, at least to me. Perhaps the non-paying residents think it is a norm to not pay the maintenance fees thinking that there will be no major action that canbe taken against them, and for the fact that other residents who pay the maintenance fees will assist to cover the shortcomings or shortfall of the collection.

I presume it is a norm for the management to put up the names of all non-paying residents together with their unit numbers on the notice board of the building as an announcement to compel these people to pay up the outstanding sum. Nevertheless, to what extent the notice may be effective is everyone's guess. From what I understand, the list shows a mixture of owners who haven't moved in to the units and owners who are already staying in the units for months.
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Can't sell n they might lock the access card to ur apartment..

Tthink twice better.. For ur family members..
Not that v want throw stone to the well

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QUOTE(half_lif3 @ Jun 18 2019, 10:47 AM)
yes but limited.
Went to Prima Alam Damai last saturday.
Still considering about the offer  icon_question.gif
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I oso consider if have chances

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