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post Mar 19 2011, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(syncomp @ Mar 18 2011, 11:53 PM)
U mean i have to buy the TPP + SP9201DAF eventhough if i bought Trinity Promo IT Pack? the TPITP alone not enuff?
This is my layout to make it clearer for u
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My intention is just for the room 1.
PC, telephone, ADSL modem, printer, and speaker is located nearby each other.
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since u have telephone together with modem, then u need SP9201DAF to replace your existing ADSL Splitter Filter... but the power protection you still can use IT pack instead, and pair together along with SP9201DAF will do...

but, u have the lan connection to room 2... recommended to protect the lan cable for room 2 at room 1 side for in case the surge come from room 2 which no filtered by cal-lab will damage ur modem and PC too...
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post Mar 19 2011, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(syncomp @ Mar 19 2011, 07:37 PM)
meaning if i took off the phone, using TPITP only should be ok la?
how to protect surge from room 2?
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yup... if u dont use phone in room 1, IT pack will sufficient...
reasons is because IT pack's filteration only DSL (digital signalling) which doesnt fully compatible for voice call (analog signalling)... if u need digital & analog signalling at the same time, then u need SP9201DAF...

if u dont have intention to protection Room 2 equipments, u can ignore it... but u must get SLAN1236 to protect modem at room 1 to prevent surge from room 2 via lan cable...
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post Mar 19 2011, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(syncomp @ Mar 19 2011, 08:21 PM)
alrite! i take IT pack + SLAN1236. Can PM me further details?
Wait.. U from Shah Alam? Can COD Seksyen 24?
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Section 24 a bit far for me... anywhere u passing by daily? glenmarie (near by giant shah alam)? section 19/20?
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post Mar 25 2011, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ic3johan @ Mar 24 2011, 02:18 PM)
erm i need any cal lab for my ps3, tv n hi fi. quote me with postage pls
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do ur TV connected any aerial antenna / astro? any telephone nearby ur TV setup?
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post Mar 27 2011, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(ic3johan @ Mar 25 2011, 04:46 PM)
for now no, but for future proof i think must include astro
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if u want the "all-in-one" version, u can get SFTV9622FC as it can protect power, aerial antenna, astro and telephone... smile.gif
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post Apr 9 2011, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Mshake @ Apr 8 2011, 03:16 AM)
I was reading up on the SLAN1236 RJ45 protector but need some confirmation, GIGABIT is supported? or as per posts here / blog from BolehVPN about STILL no gigabit support? If no then, I may have to think twice..... and go the wireless router with wireless bridges and vlans.....at least modem is then erm....'expendable' ....
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yup... cal-lab doesn't support gigabit at the moment as concerned that lesser filtration required in order to achieve higher data speed... lesser filtration may effect the protection level to against surge... unless you means u have a big server like BolehVPN which required high network traffic then different story, for end-user based wont be much different as data transfer from HDD-HDD managed to hit 20-40mbps even though HDD specification can support up to 150-300+mbps

QUOTE(Mshake @ Apr 8 2011, 03:16 AM)
Just out of curiosity and lazy to read up everything here, the bulk of these cal-lab are simply plug with re-diverts surges back to the house in-built earth grounding? Coz i can see RJ11/RJ45 all comes with the actual RJ cables and a green cable which looks like an earth connection to be connected back to the plug from Cal-lab which in turns plug back to the wall socket? Would this then mean, you protect one equipment and rediverts the surges back to the wall which goes to the ground? If so, then the surges which are redirected may hit other connected wall sockets and fry other equipments?

Sorry reason I ask this is because, it's all good protecting modem/routers/pc but if it potentially rediverts somewhere else then, this would mean the only true protection is to put a plug in every single wall socket in the entire house.
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well, you have the point also that the grounding cable forwhole building may connected into the same earth trunk and may caused other equipments in risks... but cal-lab designed in such way that never force to isolate ALL of the surge into earth, but cal-lab designed with detection feature before isolate... if the surge exceed the safe level which may harm the protected equipments, cal-lab will burn itself rather than force to isolate the surge into earth...

hence, surge (so-called electric) always choose the path with lowest Ohm, low possibility that other equipments will in the risk as the some resistance existed for all of the equipments... that the reasons the grounding wire must thicker, full copper made, shorter length if possible in order to lead the surge into earth instead...

As what u said, nothing is impossible... Cal-lab also never claim that their products are 100% guarantee can protect customers' equipments 100% safe condition, it have a lot of other causes which may effected the protection level such as equipments condition, wiring condition, environment condition, equipments setup, unpredictable statics & other causes... example one of ram dead in my PC even though protect by cal-lab after rain, but mobo, PSU and another ram still working fine, by sense the surge should killed PSU & mobo before kill the ram... it could be the aged ram and dead because of the statics during the rain which out of cal-lab's control...

QUOTE(Mshake @ Apr 8 2011, 03:16 AM)
Is there an outdoor unit which connects to the TNB directly/switchboard/Telco phone line (eg true central filters?) made by Cal-Lab? That would mean fantastic protection then.

For example...
TNB to House SWithboard -> cal-lab central isolator with direct grounding (then nothing will fry)
Telekom wires to Cal-Lab protection (central DSL filter + in turn rewired back to ground via the central isolator?) -> to house (then nothing will fry?)

Wouldn't the above be more worth while if available? That would be truly green and nice and tidy for the whole house, heck you guys can sell direct to developers and make more than the consumer line!! smile.gif
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incorrect... surge can come from EVERYWHERE even though in the same building...
such as house grilles, metal bar in the building, water pipe also can attract surge into building easily...
Hence there have unavoidable direct stike into your building which cannot be prevent as the link below...
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http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/gkl...htningCase2.jpg

Hence, installing the main protector at the main power trunk. the main protector must have the capabilities to support up to high load and high wattage. the main protector which can support high load and high wattage usually cant differentiate surge which below the load and wattage (example protector support 3000w, if incoming surge around 2000w, how the protector differentiate that is electric or surge?)

furthermore, like what you said about the sharing same earth trunk which putting other equipments in risk... but now, the surge come from other source and rerouted into power cable and put other equipment in danger which are no able to filter by main protector, example the surge striked modem via tel cable, modem connected with power cable and reroute the surge into building power cable... same go to TV antenna, lan cable, satelite dish, etc...

also, different equipments different "characteristic", some sensitive equipments no able to tolerate any small surge which cant detect by main protector which support 13-15amp+, that the reasons most of cal-lab units supported 5amp only as it can differentiate surge efficiently... unless special condition, cal-lab also have 3amp and 10amp version depend on the equipment total power consumption and sensitivity...

as sense, i dont think ALL-IN-ONE devices have the better performance compare to SPECIALIZED devices... smile.gif

hm... talk too much around here and seem going more and more topics to discuss if i going to talk further... anyway, u are welcome to drop by Cal-Lab showroom which located at Bandar Utama, the staff will able to answer all your doubts... smile.gif

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post Apr 10 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Mshake @ Apr 9 2011, 07:13 PM)
Always good to hear good responses from seller like yourself. Appreciate the patience and explanations. Will do if i have the chance to come by.

Btw any recommendation per me first question about my setup?
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u can drop by bandar utama show room & look for Calvin as he will answer all your doubts... smile.gif

i required the detail information from you such as the location and distance of equipment...
anyway, for a decent setup according to your requirements should look alike like this...
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post Apr 21 2011, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(ooice @ Apr 21 2011, 02:00 PM)
Can the SP9201ARD used as the lightning isolator for my ADSL modem?
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no recommended to protect tel line only as surge can come from power source and lan cable (if networking involved)
otherwise users will take the risk if insisted for planned for FULL protection...

refer the link below for more information (post #265)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/272679/+260
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post Apr 24 2011, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(noblesse @ Apr 24 2011, 01:23 PM)
hey bro can pm me best protection for the following?

Living room - lcd tv, wireless router, cordless phone, sound system, astro, bluray/dvd player

other room - cpu, monitor, speaker, printer, external HD

just last month my housing area (kepong) got power outage.. then half hour later got back electricity, fried my computer 750W power supply with a loud bang noise when the current comes..

just last week, got very bad thunder at my housing area, fried my router (non-wireless DLINK) and wireless enabler (buffalo)

really need a good protection, please advice. thanks
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ur wireless router connected with any wired lan cable? have any aerial antenna connect to ur LCD tv?
if dont have any wired lan cable and aerial antenna, u can use MDSC0039FC + SP9201DAF to protect power, astro and tel line... smile.gif

about the PC at other room, have any wired lan cable connected to any router or PC? or connected via wireless only? if connect wireless only, u can use MDSC0039 for power protection...

anyway, i around kepong area this few days... the thunder are real bad and static created around the environment... even my parent-in-law house phone have little respond toward to each lightning strike with minor ringer tone sound, can concluded that that statics created and able to pass the statics into any media during lightning strike and it enough to kill your equipments easily...

QUOTE(simonkys @ Apr 24 2011, 05:39 PM)
Hey Bro,

Pls PM me best price for one untit each of SP9201-DAF, SLAN1236, MSDC0039, MDFC, TJP9633 with postage to sg petani.

Also, is it ok if i use MSDC0039 connect to multi socket? or better use TJP9633. I want to connect to Tvs, astro media player etc..

Thanks in advance...
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what the equipments u tended to protection by using SP9201-DAF, SLAN1236, MSDC0039 & MDFC

Cal-Lab no longer selling TJP9633 now and replaced by SF9512ARD... otherwise u can use SF9812AR for cheaper replacement cost in the future...

you can use multisocket on MDSC0039 but must ensure the multisocket built with good quality parts and good finishing...

if you only want to protect TV, astro and media player, but dont have telephone / tel line / aerial antenna nearby ur equipments, u can use MDSC0039FC for power and astro protection...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Apr 24 2011, 08:09 PM
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post Apr 24 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(simonkys @ Apr 24 2011, 09:24 PM)
hey bro,

See below for the diagram..need your opinion

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is your ALL of your equipments in the diagram located in the same room?
EVERYTHING located side by side?

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post Apr 25 2011, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(simonkys @ Apr 25 2011, 09:27 AM)
Yes all of them under same room, side by side...
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here ur setup as proposed if all equipments under the same room...
if your alarm system or other equipments located at other location, then the setup may vary as the distance between protector and equipments will affected the protection efficiency...
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QUOTE(simonkys @ Apr 25 2011, 11:14 AM)
Pls share your advise again, tks
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as revised... smile.gif
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post Apr 27 2011, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(simonkys @ Apr 26 2011, 01:52 PM)
Hey Bro,

Thanks for the respond...actually i would like to have only 2 TNB point (MSDC0039), one dedicated for alarm...another use Trinity Twin Power Pack. For telephone line, protected with SP9201DAF; For astro cable, can i just use MD-FC? Alarm's AC protected by Trinity Twin Power Pack.

With only 2 TNB point, then i can just unplug one point that connected with Trinity Twin Power Pack & keep the alarm on with MSDC0039...what's ur view?
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Not problem for your suggestion, as long as the protected equipments are closed with Cal-Lab will be fine...
if excessive extension (example MDSC0039 / SP9201DAF <10-20meter cable> alarm system) will affected the protection efficiency...

Here as revised... smile.gif
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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ Apr 27 2011, 12:30 PM)
Dude,

I dont know if u still remember me or not.

I'm interested to buy the little cube lightning isolator

LAEA/25A/0599/M

Do you have any?. I would want to buy it in bulk...depends on the price smile.gif

Thanks smile.gif
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SKPXM(AR) for your keyphone system right?

how many unit you need? i will try to give u best price... smile.gif
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QUOTE(jovial @ Apr 28 2011, 10:27 AM)
do you have anything big enough for whole house?
protect the incoming power lines
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nope, those big load protector wont efficient enough to detect minor surge...
furthermore required electrical guy to perform such installation due to high voltage concerned...
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QUOTE(blueskyrider @ Apr 28 2011, 07:05 PM)
i need a lightning arrestor for my phone line + adsl modem. i already have a micro-filter and thus dont need one which is integrated. which model do you recommend?

this is what i want:

TM Line -------| Lightning Arrestor |-------|microfilter|-----|phone+modem|
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u need SP9201DAF to protect tel cable for phone & modem and replace the microfilter, hence pair with MDSC0039 for power protection...
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 2 2011, 04:23 AM)
Can you recommend something to protect both of this~ Thanks
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1st part: since u dont have telephone and wired lan cable to another location, u can use SF9512DSL, SF9812DSL or other equivalent models for power cable and tel cable protection

2nd part: since your PC running with wifi, so protect the power cable with MDSC0039 will sufficient...

QUOTE(mark @ May 2 2011, 08:46 PM)
What do I need to buy? Quite confused...
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for Room #2, u can use MDSC0039FC for power and astro protection... but dont have aerial antenna connected to ur TV and telephone nearby?

between the Room #1 and Room #3, you connected the desktops with wired lan cable?
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post May 3 2011, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(mark @ May 3 2011, 02:28 AM)
Thanks for your reply!

For Room #2, no aerial antenna and no telephone nearby. How do I protect my Astro? And how to protect the Astro --> HDMI/Component/RCA --> TV?

For Room #1 and #3, yes, desktops connected with wired lan cable
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here ur setup... smile.gif
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post May 3 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(mark @ May 3 2011, 08:11 PM)
Do I still use the same setup?
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if u need another lan protection,
u need to install another SLAN1236 at Room 1;
hence install another SD-4C (recommended) or SLAN1236 at Room 3

can get the idea roughly? smile.gif
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QUOTE(mark @ May 3 2011, 08:26 PM)
Hmm, so if I add another SLAN1236 at Room 3 for CPU 2, it should be enough?

Also, just wondering -- if I'm already protected from Telekom, and protected from TNB (Room 1 + Room 3 protected) - why would I need to protect my LAN cables with SLAN1236?
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here the revised setup...
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any metal built items able to attract surge... hence the longer cable, the higher exposure toward to environment... that the reasons SD-4C & SLAN1236 designed for long lan cable, furthermore ur house build with metal bar, water pipe, metal grille, etc as those able to attract surge & staics and "jump" into any cables easily...

asuumed u only protect Room3's lan point, dont forget the surge will able to route into ur router, hence router connected to CPU and multisocket which means all of the Room1's equipments still facing the risks...

click the link below and read post #770 to prove that LAN cable able to carry surge...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/272679/+760

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