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Buying Advice nikon D50 vs D70s?

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post Apr 16 2006, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(ferox @ Apr 16 2006, 12:50 AM)
Cheapest can get is RM2400. camera + kit lens only

Alright. Anyone knows how much a d70s body costs?
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asked today n most salesman say they seldom masuk the "body only" stock liao. some shops r offering around 2900 like that smile.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(ferox @ Apr 16 2006, 12:50 AM)
Alright. Anyone knows how much a d70s body costs?
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U buy the kit & sell me the kit lense.
Good huh??

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post Apr 16 2006, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(basSist @ Apr 16 2006, 01:14 AM)
i tot the twisted LCD is from E330 that comes with Live LCD as well?
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yep yep! biggrin.gif panasonic gonna release the L1 soon which oso got the same features smile.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Apr 16 2006, 01:17 AM)
U buy the kit & sell me the kit lense.
Good huh??
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I'll take you up on your offer if you're serious about it.
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post Apr 16 2006, 09:17 AM

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yesterday night i went to charlie in my hometown here and get quoted

RM4190 for 350D kit lens, 1GB CF ( non branded somemore ), normal tripod and a nikon bag.

I was STUNNED by the price!! Guess in small town.. it is easy to whoop up some big fish scouting for dSLR.

Anyway, cfyung85...

though the deal might went sour.. but that doesn't means we can't have a gathering when we get our camera. I believe we guys shud meet up.

What do u guys think?
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post Apr 16 2006, 09:29 AM

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but i planned to buy the D70s this coming thursday liao bcos friday i'm going to redang with my GF for the ever first time in my life rclxm9.gif

dun wanna miss the beautiful scenery there without a camera blush.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(cfyung85 @ Apr 16 2006, 09:29 AM)
but i planned to buy the D70s this coming thursday liao bcos friday i'm going to redang with my GF for the ever first time in my life  rclxm9.gif

dun wanna miss the beautiful scenery there without a camera  blush.gif
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woah.. that's fast.

remember to share with us your photo. drool.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(basSist @ Apr 16 2006, 01:14 AM)
i tot the twisted LCD is from E330 that comes with Live LCD as well?
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oh ya...is e330..eheheke..
cfyung85, remember to share ur camera price and ur redang photo..... thumbup.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 10:32 AM

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Guys, seeing cfyung85's poor negotiation outing, I decided to help out by giving Lilian from Boeing a call. Not sure whether this is a good price but this is what I got when I told her a friend wanted to buy 6 x D70s and 2 x D50.

D70s = RM3400 (normal price RM3550)
D50 = RM2500 (normal price RM2800) <= not that good a price but probably can nego further.

Take note that this is over the phone. If go there and see her in person, probably can negotiate for a better deal when the entire deal is told to her.

I think cfyung's mistake was dealing with one of the junior salesperson in Boeing. If deal with the supervisor / boss straight, you will know right away the best deal u can get.

This post has been edited by Par@dox: Apr 16 2006, 10:43 AM
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cfyung85, enjoy the trip smile.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(cfyung85 @ Apr 16 2006, 02:29 AM)
but i planned to buy the D70s this coming thursday liao bcos friday i'm going to redang with my GF for the ever first time in my life  rclxm9.gif

dun wanna miss the beautiful scenery there without a camera  blush.gif
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Getting to grips with a SLR will take some time and practice. Even if you bought it today, will you be able to control the camera satisfactorily in time for your trip? It would be much easier if you already have exposure to some level of manual photography (beyond automatic/ P&S), and if you haven't, well, you won't make it in time. From your statement that you do not have a camera, I'm assuming the worst.

And I was also wondering how you were going to get everyone to pay up in time (given your tight time frame)... doh.gif

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post Apr 16 2006, 11:48 AM

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OK...seems liek the deal is back ALIVE following Par@dox neg. with the sales person.

BTW, cfyung.... who's the sales person u talk to? can u pm me his/her name?
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post Apr 16 2006, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Apr 16 2006, 11:48 AM)
OK...seems liek the deal is back ALIVE following Par@dox neg. with the sales person.

BTW, cfyung.... who's the sales person u talk to? can u pm me his/her name?
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i dunno... sad.gif i only know its a chinese guy in G floor Boeing lot G134. oh yeah...theres a pirated cd shop next to it icon_idea.gif he was very nice n kind at first n greeted me so i was oso happy to c him. but when i started to nego bout best price since i'm buying bulk he straight away like...u know a bit pissed off doh.gif but about all his condeming nikon thing dunno whether its true or not unsure.gif

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Guys, seeing cfyung85's poor negotiation outing, I decided to help out by giving Lilian from Boeing a call. Not sure whether this is a good price but this is what I got when I told her a friend wanted to buy 6 x D70s and 2 x D50.

D70s = RM3400 (normal price RM3550)
D50 = RM2500 (normal price RM2800) <= not that good a price but probably can nego further.

Take note that this is over the phone. If go there and see her in person, probably can negotiate for a better deal when the entire deal is told to her.

I think cfyung's mistake was dealing with one of the junior salesperson in Boeing. If deal with the supervisor / boss straight, you will know right away the best deal u can get.
RM3400 for D70s is not a bad deal since most shop r offering 3500 like that. tarita being cheapest RM3450. RM2500 for D50 is about near normal price since a lot of shops oso offering bout 2450-2600 blush.gif

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Getting to grips with a SLR will take some time and practice. Even if you bought it today, will you be able to control the camera satisfactorily in time for your trip? It would be much easier if you already have exposure to some level of manual photography (beyond automatic/ P&S), and if you haven't, well, you won't make it in time. From your statement that you do not have a camera, I'm assuming the worst.

And I was also wondering how you were going to get everyone to pay up in time (given your tight time frame)...
actually i oledi wanted to buy yesterday bcos today, monday, tuesday n wednesday i have to go to KKB hospital to help the medical staffs smile.gif but bcos suddenly so many lowyat friends offer to buy together with me, i oso think its ok since maybe i can get a good price from bulk buying but tiba tiba tak bleh pulak blush.gif so have to buy either this coming thursday or rush on friday but i think thursday will be nice smile.gif

oh forgot to tell...i'm 24 hours on manual exposure with my FZ30 last time. thats y i prefer D70s rather than D50 n 350D bcos it has 2 command dials that make manual exposure a breeze tongue.gif

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QUOTE(cfyung85 @ Apr 16 2006, 01:23 PM)
i dunno...  sad.gif i only know its a chinese guy in G floor Boeing lot G134. oh yeah...theres a pirated cd shop next to it  icon_idea.gif he was very nice n kind at first n greeted me so i was oso happy to c him. but when i started to nego bout best price since i'm buying bulk he straight away like...u know a bit pissed off  doh.gif but about all his condeming nikon thing dunno whether its true or not  unsure.gif
RM3400 for D70s is not a bad deal since most shop r offering 3500 like that. tarita being cheapest RM3450. RM2500 for D50 is about near normal price since a lot of shops oso offering bout 2450-2600  blush.gif
actually i oledi wanted to buy yesterday bcos today, monday, tuesday n wednesday i have to go to KKB hospital to help the medical staffs  smile.gif but bcos suddenly so many lowyat friends offer to buy together with me, i oso think its ok since maybe i can get a good price from bulk buying but tiba tiba tak bleh pulak  blush.gif so have to buy either this coming thursday or rush on friday but i think thursday will be nice  smile.gif

oh forgot to tell...i'm 24 hours on manual exposure with my FZ30 last time. thats y i prefer D70s rather than D50 n 350D bcos it has 2 command dials that make manual exposure a breeze  tongue.gif
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ooh.. i think the shop u went isnt the shop i had a nice conversation with the sales guy.

mine is along the row same with parkson 1
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post Apr 16 2006, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(cfyung85 @ Apr 16 2006, 01:23 PM)
RM3400 for D70s is not a bad deal since most shop r offering 3500 like that. tarita being cheapest RM3450. RM2500 for D50 is about near normal price since a lot of shops oso offering bout 2450-2600  blush.gif
Funny u should mention that his attitude change after u said u want to buy bulk.. most shops would be happy that the buyer is willing to buy more..

Anyways, if u guys are really serious, can get together and go to the shop straight and negotiate lar. It is easier to negotiate in a group. Go straight and speak to Lilian at Boeing. I think she's the supervisor / manager there cos I noticed most of the other salespeople check with her on the prices.

If Boeing refuse to budge on the D50, at least can get the D70s first and then proceed to the other shop to get the D50 at RM2400 or less. With 6 units, RM3400 for the D70s shouldn't be a problem.

End of the day, I think the shops in Sungei Wang are already offering very low prices. Eventhough u guys buy in bulk, I highly doubt they can go down much further, at most probably RM100-200 off regular prices.

One other way would be to get in touch with the distributor and get a dealer price. Too bad I don't have lobang on this. smile.gif

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post Apr 16 2006, 04:24 PM

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So which boeing shop is the one with Lilian in it?
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post Apr 16 2006, 05:09 PM

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The main one.. I think it's on the ground floor.
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post Apr 16 2006, 05:29 PM

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my friend said tarita photoshop near guardian one got a salesperson quite nice, he is a photokaki too and willing to share some tips of shooting....smile.gif
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QUOTE(cfyung85 @ Apr 16 2006, 06:23 AM)
oh forgot to tell...i'm 24 hours on manual exposure with my FZ30 last time. thats y i prefer D70s rather than D50 n 350D bcos it has 2 command dials that make manual exposure a breeze  tongue.gif
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Fair enough, although the 20D is always there whistling.gif . Good luck getting your camera in time and have a wonderful holiday!
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I think maybe Canon offers better incentives/kickback for sales of the cameras eh? They do have the price margin and marketing money to do so.

On the subject of Olympus, I do think that the ZD 14-45 kit lens that comes with the E-300, E-500 and E-330 are indeed superior to the kit lens you get on the D50 and EOS-350D. It's got true USM/SWM-type focusing mechanism, for one.

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