Heh but it's rather crippled for me to take seriously. It's a no-no if you're a serious macro shooter, or if you're a serious landscaper.

I would have gone for the fast lens like Sigma 24-70 f2.8 or 18-50 f2.8 (My next purchasing list) and 2nd hand Nikon 80-200 f2.8 direct with that cash in hand. No need to worry about futher upgrade. Later got cash only get the sharp Tokina 12-24 and not forgetting the SP90 for superb macro shot.

The Sigma DC 18-50/2.8 isn't good at all wide-open. Most users say they only find it acceptable from F/4 and beyond. Perhaps you might want to wait and see what the Tamron 17-50/2.8 is like. As a bonus, you get more wide-angle too. Who knows, maybe this product might be better than the DX 17-55/2.8?

Edit: And oh, I'd take the Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 any given day over the 24-70/2.8 - better all-round sharpness wide-open, slightly less cost, smaller size, weight and filter requirements. You don't lose much on the wide-end either.

This post has been edited by richx: Apr 27 2006, 12:56 AM

Did saw some review that sigma 18-50mm is quite soft wide open. But due to sometime I take wedding photo in cramp enviroment, the wide 18mm is just right. Starting at 24mm I am still very sceptical if the frame is able to cover the indoor shot. There are also the Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5, reviewed quite reasonable at all range but not constant f2.8. What a let down. Heard of the tamron 18-50mm version sometime. BTW when will it be available?

Didn't know the 24-60 f2.8 has more advantage, thank for the tips tho.

Wait for the Tamron 17-50/2.8 lar. It's definately a worthy wait, I believe. Especially when the Sigma DC 18-50/2.8 is just so-so.

hmm...y dun just go straight for a fisheye lens?

In a fish-eye wide-angle, you actually get less coverage and resolution compared to a rectilinear wide-angle, especially after you de-fish it. I don't know about Canon's wide-angle line-up, but I know Nikon has ...

DX 10.5 FE
DX 12-24/4

but Pentax totally rocks their boat with

DA 14/2.8
DA 10-17 FE
DA 12-24/4
DA 16-45/4 (more of a standard zoom, but hey gives you 24-mme coverage)

Olympus has a few too, but I heard their prices are out of this world.

Anyway, all this is beside the point. I think our friend is looking for a standard zoom lens which is bright and gives a decent wide-angle coverage. To this end, I'd think the Tamron 17-50/2.8 is worth waiting for, especially given Tamron's reputation for making decent optics at reasonable prices.

hmm... if me i would go for Tokina 12-24mm perhaps sigma 24-70 f2.8 den wait for 70-300VR (den slowly duit masuk tabung for 70-200 VR) lol

but now no $$$ la. i craving for wide angle lens! argh!

wahahahha !!
i have join the darkside !! bought D50 yesterday !!

so how is it? good? nvm cos later u'll start to demand for greater lens n external flash be prepared to be poisoned!

first i got D50 i was not happy with the 18-55 lense...but now i noticed its not bad...statisfy with it... but still wondering what 2 get next...mayb keep money get 50-500 instead of macro.. :/

YUP !!
agreed, that's nothing can do with the 18-55 mm !!!

can't even shoot a single BIRD ~!

but it can shoot quite a good wide angle same as 18-70mm in the D70s just that the short tele a bit...sueh

if u wan cheap zoom lens can go for the ultra budget 70-300mm nikkor AFG (RM360) or the DX 55-200mm nikkor (RM...about 850) but most experienced forumers will advise u to go for the DX55-200mm lens

The DX 18-55 isn't half bad. It's usable under most circumstances that it's designed for. If you have any issues with it, perhaps you should inspect your expectations vs. what you're putting into your photography.

anyway does anyone know actually what does a close up filter do? is it the same as macro filter? i c theres numbering like +1 +2 +3 +4 +10 n so on n so forth...what does it signify actually?

n does this kind of filter got different diameter to suit into any lens? how much does 1 cost? any brand to recommend? any help is really appreciated. TQ in advance

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 30 2006, 06:43 PM

RM60-80 in BP,
normally ppl will go for +4 , can macro more, but item looks 'round'
it comes with all kind of different diameter which 'sure' can fit ur nikon !

does BP stands for bintang plaza? anyway thnx a lot! maybe gonna try n fetch 1 today

I think is Boeing Photo....

soli boeing tarak jual...ask liao

maybe its time for this thread to close finally...really gonna miss it... to everybody!!!

if anyone wan this thread to be open back do message me n i'll open this post back

This post has been edited by cfyung85: May 1 2006, 08:17 PM