well actually i started this topic in the "nikon fans" forum but planned to put it in the main forum so everyone can share ideas.

so besides the cf n sd card, what other big difference between the D50 n D70s? n whats the market price for D50 now (KL)? any good honest shop to recommend? i dun wanna get 'fried" if u know what i mean

i know D50 is cheaper compared to D70s but if the difference in terms of body built is too big than better off getting a D70s. but if the difference is just minor stuffs...well a D50 should be ok.

really need some help from DSLR pros

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 5 2006, 03:31 PM

thnx a lot for the info! i think i'll survey around KL to ask for the best price for both of the cameras

actually the D50 price is really tempting...i checked www.nikon.com.my n it only cost RM 3118 for the body n the..."not so good" lens but i dunno now market price is how much so any guide guys?

but i tried to compare the 2 of the cameras n found nothing much of a difference except for auto white balance, the card type etc (lazy to list out)

sigh...really kinda blur now... any advise?

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 5 2006, 10:24 PM

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hmm...if that so most prob i'll get the D50...budget minded a bit n not so pro oso in the 1st place oh n is there an option where i dun wan the lens provided in the D50 n get a cheaper price? means that i only wan the body cos i planned to get myself another better(not the best) nikon lens.

not bad not bad. seems that i have found what i want

i'm a normal photographer who shoots photo as a hobby so i think D50 is enough for me. anyway, anyone know how much is D50 body only? hopefully it is below 2500

i planned to get myself the AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4-5.6 G ED since its kinda cheap. any suggestion? my budget for the lens is about 1000 or maybe should i just stick back to the 18-55mm lens provided?

is that the lens fitted in the D70s kit?

yar my friend oso recommend me that lens but if D50 + that lens then the price should be almost equal to the D70s with the lens(correct me if i'm wrong...still kinda blur with the price)

i'm using a digicam pansonic fz30 all this while n it is equipped with a 35-420mm lens

in fact whats the difference between a SLR lens n those digicam lens i oso dunno thats y i aim for cheap DSLR cam n lens n slowly learn things. can say i'm a newbie in these stuffs

anyway until now no 1 gave me a price for D50 body only (well someone gave me D70s oledi at least ). maybe i'll ask tomolo in sungei wang n low yat

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 6 2006, 10:00 PM

well actually my dad was using the nikon F100 film SLR

he got 2 lenses...the nikkor dunno what lens(portrait) n another sigma huge long lens...if i'm not mistaken it is 200-500mm...maybe he can spare me that 1 n his tripod oso

anyway thnx million lots for the info guys it really helped me a lot although there r numerous photography jargons that i dun understand

i'll ask for the D50 n D70s tomolo in sungei wang n low yat n try to consider again. well have to ask my ol' dad to teach me these slr stuffs now

thnx a lot guys!!!

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 6 2006, 10:07 PM

yar actually the noise prob in FZ30 oso make me hate the photos that i took. it ruined all my prom night photos bcos i forgot to set back to ISO 80 from 400 due to the previous night shot

anyway planned to sell away now n sad case is that my dad dun allow me to touch with his sigma tele lens(that nikkor lens...no need to say since he said it is one of the best in its class which i dunno what he meant.sayang like gold). he put it in the air tight container together with all his F100 goodies 24-7 unless if when he wanna take photos

2500-2700...is that with the 18-55mm lens or just the body??if its just the body might as well go for D70s since i heard someone in the forum said it cost 3500-3700 together with the 18-70mm lens but anyway i'll scour all the shops in sungei wang, low yat n times square tomolo n c what their package gonna offer

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 6 2006, 11:33 PM

D200?? well i wont be poisoned by that camera since i dun have the cash

2500-2700 for the body n lens...not bad

the only thing that i'm not satisfied with the D50 is the loss of the 2nd dial to adjust the aperture since i almost everytime use manual exposure in my FZ30 so i'm used to use the 2 dials. now have to press the aperture button while turning the dial. hope i'll get used to it

well i still dunno whether i wanna use a 3 rd party lens or not. of course it'll be cheaper compared to genuine nikkor lenses

finally able to sneak n touch my dad's cam...well his lens is the AF micro nikkor 105mm 1:2.8 thats all that is written on the lens. dunno what is that oso

err...dunno whats that lens for anyway. it has only 1 number 105mm n 1:2.8 n nothing else...

hehe just cant wait to get my hands on the D series oledi

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 7 2006, 10:09 AM

well today i went to all the 3 places (sungei wang, times square n low yatt) to ask for the prices for D50 n D70s. the price i asked was the standard package which has nothing but the camera n the lens only (no memory cards, bag, filters bla bla bla)

n the price i asked havent been bargained yet. means that i just went in, get the price, say thank you n run back out

among the shops i asked are Bintang Maju Commercial, Nepmatic, myKamera.com, Foto Shangrila, Foto Flash, Fotokem, Enata, FS, Boeing n Tarita

bascially i can say only Bintang Maju Commercial in times square offer the "body only" package which only got the body with no lens but the price is kinda expensive. u can just forget about it

i'll only post the cheapest n most expensive price i found since i feel that listing out all the prices of the shops is troublesome n it might affect the shop reputation a little. i'll oso list the shops which gave the best service n the worst service

cheapest for D50 - Foto Shangrila in sungei wang lower ground floor - RM 2400 (body+lens only)

cheapest for D70s - Tarita (G119) in sungei wang ground floor - RM 3450 (body+lens only)

most expensive for D50 n D70s belongs to the same shop which is Fotokem in low yatt which is RM2800 for the D50 n RM3800 for the D70s. but their service is not bad anyway

price range for D50 - RM 2400-RM2800
price range for D70s - RM 3450-RM3800

among all the shop i went, Foto Shangrila gave me the best service since they just welcome me into their shop with open arms (without even judging thru my physical appearance...u'll understand later) even when i say i just wanna ask for the camera price. they r quite busy at that time oso. n they r oso the 1 offering the best price for D50. good job!

the shop which gave the worst service...Enata in low yatt (sorry to say ). when i went in, not even a single salesman say a "hi" to me or "how may i help u". all just ignore me n nod their head down. maybe its due to my clothing (i wear short pants, lousy pasar malam t-shirt n a pair of sandals). then when i ask for the price, their voice like wanna die like that (wan to tell dun wan to tell). i can barely hear what they say. in fact there is no customer at that time oso. sigh...looks does matters

so after today's scouting, i really need to rethink which 1 i wanna buy D50 price is tempting but D70s oso not bad due to the extra features n a better lens at only 1000 dollars more expensive, sigh...but most prob i'll get the D70s but better count my money first. my wallet will anytime be admitted to the hospital due to excessive "blood leakage"

This post has been edited by cfyung85: Apr 8 2006, 12:05 AM

i think i've made up my mind to buy the better D70s. finally came up with a decision thnx for all the help guys n pros (including girls if there r any)

so now final problem to solve...which shop should i buy the D70s? only Boieng n Tarita offered prices <RM3500. The rest mostly are RM3600.Boeing offered me RM3480 while Tarita offered me RM3450. r the warranties the same? any help guys?

i think i'll go to the shop (either boeing/tarita) that can give me the best service n best price for D70s after bargaining with them

well i think thats all for this thread. time to say thank you n bye bye thnx again everyone!

k no prob i'll oso ask for the price for the external flash. either a sb600 or sb800

i asked boeing on friday they offered 3480

D70s body with lens kit 3450
battery 180??

means that the standard package does not comes with the battery??
OMG...thought it came with the EN-EL3 battery...

wow...luckily they gave a battery...i omost "died of excessive bleeding" liao after buying the camera kit n a nikon bag even the external flash oso have to wait till i get enough 'blood" for my wallet

yeah i plan to buy a nikon bag oso...anyone knows where to buy ori 1??

n like BurgaFlippinMan said that ori bag should come with a warranty right??

haha true oso but if D90 is released then D70s price will be rocketed downwards anyway lazy wanna wait liao. cant really live without a camera for 5 whole months

i'll buy either this week or next week depending whether i'm able to sell my FZ30 or not someone called me today n i have to meet him tomolo he said if it is satisfying he'll buy straight away

yeah i was hoping that oso anyway hopefully tomolo turn out to be good if not have to wait for another buyer

yeah...D70s is kinda hard to find sometimes. some shops oso everytime no stock

i can buy around end of april oso. wanna build some cash n 1 shot sapu everything

anyway if between 350D n D70s i would go for D70s since 350D is kinda small but performance wise...very hard to say...but mostly r siding 350D
1 using CCD another 1 using CMOS...
1 6mp another 1 8mp...
1 ISO 200 another 1 ISO 100 (minimum)...
but i still side the "Dark Side"

the flash SB600 if 1st hand oso need 800 bucks but can only reach ISO 1000... but if u got the cash then can spend maybe another 500 to get the SB800

but i think i'll go again this coming saturday n ask boeing c whether they can give discount KAU KAU if we buy lots of camera (different types) or not