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Buying Advice nikon D50 vs D70s?

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post Apr 6 2006, 10:10 PM

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D70s comes with a very good lens aledi.. no need to worry about not satisfied with 18-55 and then dumping it off for 200 odd bucks and hunting for 18-70.

The f4.5 (at 70mm) is better than f5.6 (55mm) where the AF is at its minimum working limits.
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post Apr 6 2006, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 6 2006, 10:08 PM)
If money is not a concern for you, why don't you buy D70 ?
Well, apart from $, i do feel that for the D70s u need to PS quite abit to get nicer results. D50 doesn't seem to suffer this trait. Might just be me though.. havent really heard of other people complaining this sad.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 10:18 PM

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cfyung85,

Nikon D50 price is around RM2500-2700/- in the market. Depend on the bundle package like size of SD card, tripod, screen protector, camera bag and etc. You have to go out and source for the bargain. On the lens maybe you can directly go for the fast lens like 3rd party tokina 80-200 f2.8. 2nd hand is also below 1k I guess. Or a better midrange Sigma 24-70 f2.8 (Around 1k++) since you already have your dad super tele lense.

Advantage of DSLR is fast shutter and focus. Longer Batt life (400-2000 shot per charge) and cleaner image and low noise at higher ISO. My brother is using the FZ30 aswell. After tinkering with my D50 he got poisoned, considering to sell off his FZ30 and get the D70s or the 350d now. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Categg @ Apr 6 2006, 10:01 PM)
Ever thought about third party lense? Stick to the 18-55mm and add another sigma 70-300mm for around RM700  tongue.gif
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got so cheap meh?

70-300mm sigma
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post Apr 6 2006, 11:32 PM

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yar actually the noise prob in FZ30 oso make me hate the photos that i took. it ruined all my prom night photos bcos i forgot to set back to ISO 80 from 400 due to the previous night shot vmad.gif

anyway planned to sell away now tongue.gif n sad case is that my dad dun allow me to touch with his sigma tele lens(that nikkor lens...no need to say since he said it is one of the best in its class which i dunno what he meant.sayang like gold). he put it in the air tight container together with all his F100 goodies 24-7 unless if when he wanna take photos

2500-2700...is that with the 18-55mm lens or just the body??if its just the body might as well go for D70s since i heard someone in the forum said it cost 3500-3700 together with the 18-70mm lens but anyway i'll scour all the shops in sungei wang, low yat n times square tomolo n c what their package gonna offer smile.gif

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post Apr 7 2006, 12:00 AM

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The price is bundle with the 18-55mm kit lens. Prepare to pay by cash if you want to save more else they charge you 2.5-3% for credit card.

Recommend you get the 50mm f1.8 lens aswell. Very good for potrait. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Apr 6 2006, 11:02 PM)
got so cheap meh?

70-300mm sigma
Yes it's around the price of RM700... key colour mid valley sells it icon_idea.gif If you're talking about 70-200 F2.8 thats a different story tongue.gif This sigma 70-300 is F4-5.6 APO DG with a 1:2 macro mode.
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post Apr 7 2006, 07:24 AM

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yea. Non APO version is cheaper right?

I would sugget get the D70s kit straight tongue.gif but D50 got its own stength (and weakness too tongue.gif)

the only thing i can advice is to go to camera shop and test both camera by yourself and you judge it.

Just went to camera shop to test D200 (pretending 1 2 buy it tongue.gif) and it feel so good in my hand.. POISON~! but already got D70s tongue.gif so no point hungering for another camera (for the moment)
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post Apr 7 2006, 07:55 AM

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D200?? well i wont be poisoned by that camera since i dun have the cash doh.gif biggrin.gif

2500-2700 for the body n lens...not bad icon_idea.gif

the only thing that i'm not satisfied with the D50 is the loss of the 2nd dial to adjust the aperture since i almost everytime use manual exposure in my FZ30 so i'm used to use the 2 dials. now have to press the aperture button while turning the dial. hope i'll get used to it blush.gif

well i still dunno whether i wanna use a 3 rd party lens or not. of course it'll be cheaper compared to genuine nikkor lenses tongue.gif

finally able to sneak n touch my dad's cam...well his lens is the AF micro nikkor 105mm 1:2.8 thats all that is written on the lens. dunno what is that oso doh.gif
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post Apr 7 2006, 07:57 AM

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a micro 105? holy crap...
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err...dunno whats that lens for anyway. it has only 1 number 105mm n 1:2.8 n nothing else... shakehead.gif

rolleyes.gif hehe just cant wait to get my hands on the D series oledi rclxms.gif

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Micro 105mm! OMG! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif blink.gif

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QUOTE(cfyung85 @ Apr 6 2006, 11:32 PM)
yar actually the noise prob in FZ30 oso make me hate the photos that i took. it ruined all my prom night photos bcos i forgot to set back to ISO 80 from 400 due to the previous night shot  vmad.gif

anyway planned to sell away now  tongue.gif n sad case is that my dad dun allow me to touch with his sigma tele lens(that nikkor lens...no need to say since he said it is one of the best in its class which i dunno what he meant.sayang like gold). he put it in the air tight container together with all his F100 goodies 24-7 unless if when he wanna take photos

2500-2700...is that with the 18-55mm lens or just the body??if its just the body might as well go for D70s since i heard someone in the forum said it cost 3500-3700 together with the 18-70mm lens but anyway i'll scour all the shops in sungei wang, low yat n times square tomolo n c what their package gonna offer  smile.gif
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hie there,

can post some packages and prices u scout from those 3 places.

I also intend to go scout for the prices but i'm from johore ( dun ask me go SG.. passport dead!). hehe...


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post Apr 8 2006, 12:04 AM

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well today i went to all the 3 places (sungei wang, times square n low yatt) to ask for the prices for D50 n D70s. the price i asked was the standard package which has nothing but the camera n the lens only (no memory cards, bag, filters bla bla bla)

n the price i asked havent been bargained yet. means that i just went in, get the price, say thank you n run back out biggrin.gif

among the shops i asked are Bintang Maju Commercial, Nepmatic, myKamera.com, Foto Shangrila, Foto Flash, Fotokem, Enata, FS, Boeing n Tarita

bascially i can say only Bintang Maju Commercial in times square offer the "body only" package which only got the body with no lens but the price is kinda expensive. u can just forget about it blush.gif

i'll only post the cheapest n most expensive price i found since i feel that listing out all the prices of the shops is troublesome n it might affect the shop reputation a little. i'll oso list the shops which gave the best service n the worst service

cheapest for D50 - Foto Shangrila in sungei wang lower ground floor - RM 2400 (body+lens only)

cheapest for D70s - Tarita (G119) in sungei wang ground floor - RM 3450 (body+lens only)

most expensive for D50 n D70s belongs to the same shop which is Fotokem in low yatt which is RM2800 for the D50 n RM3800 for the D70s. but their service is not bad anyway smile.gif

price range for D50 - RM 2400-RM2800
price range for D70s - RM 3450-RM3800

among all the shop i went, Foto Shangrila gave me the best service since they just welcome me into their shop with open arms (without even judging thru my physical appearance...u'll understand later) even when i say i just wanna ask for the camera price. they r quite busy at that time oso. n they r oso the 1 offering the best price for D50. good job! rclxms.gif

the shop which gave the worst service...Enata in low yatt (sorry to say sad.gif ). when i went in, not even a single salesman say a "hi" to me or "how may i help u". all just ignore me n nod their head down. maybe its due to my clothing (i wear short pants, lousy pasar malam t-shirt n a pair of sandals). then when i ask for the price, their voice like wanna die like that (wan to tell dun wan to tell). i can barely hear what they say. in fact there is no customer at that time oso. sigh...looks does matters sad.gif

so after today's scouting, i really need to rethink which 1 i wanna buy sad.gif D50 price is tempting but D70s oso not bad due to the extra features n a better lens at only 1000 dollars more expensive, sigh...but most prob i'll get the D70s but better count my money first. my wallet will anytime be admitted to the hospital due to excessive "blood leakage" biggrin.gif

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post Apr 8 2006, 02:22 AM

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thanks for the information cfyung85..
i am planning to get a dslr too. ^^
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post Apr 8 2006, 02:53 AM

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Yeah, thanks for the info too. Although im based overseas now, im still more interested in getting the d50 back in malaysia. I checked out the EOS 350D over here today after conversion it's Rm3600... cheap?? I didnt ask what's bundled in the package. Just window shopping.
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Apr 8 2006, 02:53 AM)
Yeah, thanks for the info too. Although im based overseas now, im still more interested in getting the d50 back in malaysia. I checked out the EOS 350D over here today after conversion it's Rm3600... cheap?? I didnt ask what's bundled in the package. Just window shopping.
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350d for RM3600 i think it is quite expensive..

CANON EOS 350D kit ( with 18-55 only ) = RM 3250

this is the price from one of our forumer.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=260397 check it out
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wuah...bassist rich liao
buy DSLR liao wor...
can i touch touch ur cam ar? laugh.gif
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@bassist

Yeah just checked that out. Looks like cameras over here are overpriced a bit... maybe will scout around some more.
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Apr 7 2006, 07:53 PM)
Yeah, thanks for the info too. Although im based overseas now, im still more interested in getting the d50 back in malaysia. I checked out the EOS 350D over here today after conversion it's Rm3600... cheap?? I didnt ask what's bundled in the package. Just window shopping.
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the warranties for camera bodies are usually only for the country that you bought it at. you might want to consider that factor into your purchase.

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