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post Apr 11 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 11 2015, 09:34 AM)
Seeking public consultations, why not just say going to take unit trust, other fund agents and insurance agents to see how to press dry people's money?
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saying that is more "Pleasing" to the contributors ears..... laugh.gif
hmm.gif Later they can says....85% of the public opinions "consulted" says that it is a GOOD moves to raise to 60 yrs.

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post Apr 11 2015, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 11 2015, 10:04 AM)
saying that is more "Pleasing" to the contributors ears..... laugh.gif
hmm.gif Later they can says....85% of the public opinions "consulted" says that it is a GOOD moves to raise to 60 yrs.
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Sorry, when reach 55, we shall have the right to withdraw part or full.
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post Apr 11 2015, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 11 2015, 11:12 AM)
Sorry, when reach 55, we shall have the right to withdraw part or full.
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isn't that is the current withdrawal policy?
now is better right...at 50 can withdraw part of it...
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post Apr 11 2015, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 11 2015, 11:44 AM)
isn't that is the current withdrawal policy?
now is better right...at 50 can withdraw part of it...
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all the time is 50 can withdraw 1/3.
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post Apr 11 2015, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 11 2015, 09:33 AM)
Haha..  They can use the money for some political "benefits " that time.

Seeing most developed countries now, their pension fund withdrawal is quite late. Malaysia at 55 is consider early.
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BolehLand compare Land of Rising Sun having life span differently


..due to environment, food , culture, quality health care system, etc


1/2 body to grave, may not able take out the money fro EPF.

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post Apr 11 2015, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 11 2015, 12:07 PM)
all the time is 50 can withdraw 1/3.
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in that case,...gomen may shift the goal post by 5 yrs....(all the same but moved by 5 yrs) drool.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 11 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 11 2015, 08:09 AM)
just to add updates onto your info
EPF seeks consultation on withdrawal age.....Saturday, 11 April 2015
THE Employees Provident Fund (EPF) is planning to call for a public consultation as a first step towards raising the permissible age for members to withdraw their retirement savings from the current 55 years to 60 years.

hmm.gif will I be too old for the ...... doh.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-age/?style=biz
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smile.gif Stats are often used when you don't want to reveal the whole picture.

"Basic Savings" is related to Account 1. Is Account 2 convenient left out? Also in that sentence in the above linked article, it is in reference to 'active' contributors. So are we assuming that 'non-active' contributors have less? Maybe most non-active contributors stopped being 'active' because they had already build up a big nest egg.

What contributors have in EPF at age 55 years do not show their entire wealth... most already cleaned out and reduced their EPF savings at age 50, and also Account 2. And Account 1 can also be reduced by withdrawing for investments into mutual funds.

BTW like it or not, EFP is a mutual fund - albeit a compulsory one. The CEO should be more concern about running it. How much a contributor has in it is not within his area of concern and responsibility, leave this to the politicians.

If he is concern about not being able to give a reasonable yearly returns, because the fund has had grown hugemongous in size and some of the monies have to be put into long term investments with very low or almost zero returns in the short term, then there is an alternative...

(When a fund is that big, all its financial moves are being watched by all parties... "Ringgit drops most since January on EPF property plan". - See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/money/ar...h.GDH8smEr.dpuf

The alternative: Consult the public whether to open up this category of 'compulsory retirement mutual fund' and provide a level playing field to other PRS funds.


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post Apr 11 2015, 04:24 PM

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maybe EPF needed the money to invest more overseas assets or buy-out some local firms hmm.gif
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post Apr 11 2015, 04:25 PM

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Najib is eyeing this pool of money to save 1MDB.
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thus my previous post "buy-out some local firms" rolleyes.gif

but got some pipu say in whatsapp Jibby might use KWAP fund to help 1MDB hmm.gif

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post Apr 12 2015, 09:33 PM

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A total of 20,867 have bal > RM1.00 mil with EPF @ 31/12/14
On average, tis individual have RM1.63 mil each with EPF

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post Apr 12 2015, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 12 2015, 09:33 PM)
A total of 20,867 have bal > RM1.00 mil with EPF @ 31/12/14
On average, tis individual have RM1.63 mil each with EPF
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why why why I am not in this category? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Apr 12 2015, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 12 2015, 10:49 PM)
why why why I am not in this category?  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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hmm.gif maybe you had taken "some" out for investment and buy property? tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 12 2015, 09:33 PM)
A total of 20,867 have bal > RM1.00 mil with EPF @ 31/12/14
On average, tis individual have RM1.63 mil each with EPF
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Are you? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 13 2015, 11:06 AM)
Are you?  biggrin.gif
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Nope, still a Long way to go
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post Apr 13 2015, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 12 2015, 10:33 PM)
A total of 20,867 have bal > RM1.00 mil with EPF @ 31/12/14
On average, tis individual have RM1.63 mil each with EPF
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cry.gif rclxub.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 13 2015, 11:12 AM)
Nope, still a Long way to go
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Actually nowadays Rm1mil is not much
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post Apr 13 2015, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 13 2015, 12:03 PM)
Actually nowadays Rm1mil is not much
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rclxms.gif yes ...is not much, but want to have it is not easy also.
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post Apr 13 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 13 2015, 01:03 PM)
Actually nowadays Rm1mil is not much
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you are one of the 20K people that having 1mil in EPF? drool.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 13 2015, 12:03 PM)
Actually nowadays Rm1mil is not much
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For me is a LOT

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