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post Aug 25 2023, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 25 2023, 02:30 PM)
Is that only for investment portfolio or include EPF Cash?  biggrin.gif
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investment/trading account ah... but i lost interest in investing/trading... so now almost 100% cash... lol...

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post Aug 26 2023, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 26 2023, 08:16 AM)
I have 50% in cash. ALL in EPF.  laugh.gif

However, my investment portfolio is 25% cash 75% stocks.
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this is the preferred ratio... thumbsup.gif

bull market will skew towards equities, bear market more cash... forever ready to pounce on opportunities... and take profit when market becomes toppish n too hot...

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post Sep 1 2023, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Sep 1 2023, 05:35 PM)
Still need JPN ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ help to get the ID 1st then only you use other sources like Police Missing Persons Unit to track down if it extreme cases ๐Ÿ˜‚ otherwise LHDN or BNM because they will have the residential address particularly banks
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so... "advertise" by calling papers up and saying... "hey print this article, we looking for 100 yo ppl" is wasting money... but spend money/resources to try track individual ppl down is not wasting money...? OK

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post Sep 1 2023, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 1 2023, 05:33 PM)
Using JPN information address?
Lolz...

Typical Malaysian won't update their address to latest one.... Who follow the rules ๐Ÿ˜

Better to use both LHDN & JPN information combination... At least can get next of kin latest working place address... Can connect from there....
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no need... just give them 5 more years... at 105 yo all unclaimed monies, assets and properties... gov sapu... hahaha...

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post Sep 1 2023, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 1 2023, 06:08 PM)
now also got like 11bil $$$ unclaimed monies laying around like that...

imagine if including EPF unclaimed $$$ too... add another few more billions (probably higher???)....

so much $$$ sitting around just like that....

actually they also needed to make the process of claiming the $$ easy... now I see so much documents needed just to claim the $$$ at Accountant General's Department  bangwall.gif
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i have some monies there....lol... but i dunno the sop...

still think my suggestion for epf to sapu the monies n give us the div is a great idea ... hahaha

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post Sep 2 2023, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 2 2023, 08:19 AM)
There's rule...
But not really strictly enforced....

Anyway

I think EPF should do some improvement on account information & payouts .

I mean, banking details .

So if one were over 100yo, automatic get the $$$ transfer to bank account.. Something like that

Now only when one were to withdraw.. need to give banks details
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bank account 1 yr no action already block leh...

dis ppl 100 yo liao.... quite sure many gg liao... records mia...

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post Sep 2 2023, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 2 2023, 09:34 AM)
Hmm...

Another problem too...

Headache headache.....

Then what the solution.... Published in newspaper... Like what they doing now.... Not really effective actually
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published in newspaper is a cya action... ppl cannot come back n say not informed or dunno anything... you have no excuses after gov sapu your funds... wink.gif

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post Sep 12 2023, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Sep 12 2023, 02:32 PM)
Hmm.. today's news and yesterday's news made me worry if i can ever retire. Yesterday there was mention of PADU system where the subsidy will be targeted and need to fill in database.. which i am sure since i don't belong to the prince earth group will make me need to pay more. Today pmx mentioned capital gain tax and gst implementation in consideration.. meaning kwsp and all investment will be affected. Sigh.... this country really cannot stay already.. things getting worse with the new unity gov. What do you ppl think?
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should go with consumption tax first... fair for all... plug the shadow economy...

and subsidies only for hardcore poor...

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post Sep 12 2023, 03:14 PM

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yeah... removing gst one of the stupid election promise just to gain votes...

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post Sep 12 2023, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 12 2023, 02:57 PM)
This country can still stay.... Just to spend money or retire.
the key is to shift one's ability to generate income overseas, so as to be out of reach of the gov (regardless of who is in control).

and then try to make yourself part of the B40, nay bottom 10% of B40, if possible to get the gov's machinery off your back. Filing zero income is a good start I think.

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everyone lari tax... have to find more ways to tax lor...

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post Oct 5 2023, 03:24 PM

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free money just wait patiently lah... hahaha

free money also complain make so much noise...

later gov say no more freebie... less headache for them... hahaha ...

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post Oct 5 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 5 2023, 03:29 PM)
well...

PTPTN / SSPN already done dusted.... no more incentive as news going on...  devil.gif 

this i-saraan thingy.... it's now like 50/50 only...

later of the month, we shall know got or not for next year  icon_question.gif
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luxury tax coming... someone says...

...time to adjust retirement inflation forecast...

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post Oct 5 2023, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Oct 5 2023, 08:30 PM)
Luxury tax all talk since 2022 but yet ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ but it is has to be in place 1st as a stop gap measure before reintroducing GST in 2028 ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ BMW and Benz owners must get hit with it
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since 2022... hmm.gif thats just last year bro... lol... these things dun move so fast lah... hahaha

anyways... waifu just met someone who is on the committee... so for sure they are working it... many many factors to be considered... based on branding?... based on price?... who/how to tax?... etc etc...

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post Oct 5 2023, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Oct 5 2023, 09:23 PM)
actually, thanks to compounding effect, if 100K per year, can reach 1 million by 8 years.

so as late as 47 can still do so before 55 years old...  biggrin.gif
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today got all my school going kids registered... give them head start soon... hahaha...

lock in some $... secure their retirements... dis way they cannot blow all their inheritance away as soon as we gg... have to wait for 55... lol

haiz... what parents do for kids nowadays... doh.gif

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post Oct 6 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Oct 6 2023, 08:54 AM)
Well done, I like to see those that are thinking far ahead.

If you put 100k when they're 14, by the time they are 54 this 100k will become RM1millionย  thumbsup.gif
Indeed, you can tell who these dengki people - always accuse people of abuse/loophole etc lah but they themselves never put in the effort or did proper planning.

I am not going the EPF route for my kids. I've realised one thing that could really help with my life is if I didn't have to pay mortgage. With this thought (and considering in 20 years it'll be almost impossible for my kids to buy their own), I purchased for my 2 kids a 2-bedroom apartment each. I just paid the downpayment, and now the apartments are being rented out (just enough to cover the mortgage+maintenance, ok lah). But by the time my kids graduate, the apartments will be fully paid off (by renters)ย  biggrin.gif
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am thinking one step deeper... lol...

primary motivation to lock some funds into epf... is protection against scammers... bad investments advice... etc etc... this way we can gg happy knowing their retirement is secured... biggrin.gif

reason we didn't go the property route... notwithstanding above... too much hassle imho... they still have our cash and home... lol

am also in the midst of setting up a trading bot... hopefully this will be my legacy... free money for life... hahaha... anyways still early days...

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post Oct 6 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 6 2023, 02:42 AM)
Good father who plant this tree 50 years ahead who won't enjoy it but his grandkids can reap the benefit as well.

Well done ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

So I never understand why people dengki. Put in the same work 50 years earlier if you want the same outcome. Not difficult.
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imho... main issue ppl have is the lock in period until 55... prefers easily assessable cash... that is if they have spare cash around...

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post Oct 6 2023, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Oct 6 2023, 11:57 AM)
That's cool bro. There's another way to look at it

if you pump money into their EPF account when they're young, they can very well see their account balance. So they may go through life with a 'my retirement is secured' attitude so I am a little wary about this behaviour.

I won't tell my kids that they will inherit my EPF money. It will be a mystery (and the amount) to them untill I'm dead. I do want them to strive and achieve success on their own.

Giving them an education, plus a 2-br apartment when they start working is an ok headstart in life than most people. If they want a bigger place, they'd have to work for it on their own but at least they can use the 2-br apartment to offset the price.
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yes... they can see... but cannot touch... they still need to work hard work smart and be successful on their own... wink.gif

and what better test of character than them pushing themselves because they wanted to, not because they have to... biggrin.gif

anyways we are not passive parents... so they should have enough guidance n motivation...

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post Oct 7 2023, 11:41 AM

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bros... quite a few points raised against parking funds in epf for kids... biggrin.gif

whilst most are real issues, they are of no concern to us really... and hence we do what we do... wink.gif

as for raising charsiew kids... its much a failure of the parents more so of the kids...

anyways... we ask our kids to pursue their dreams, focus on their passion, do their best, and we will have their back... we have no doubt they will be successful...

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post Oct 8 2023, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 8 2023, 01:15 PM)
Yes. Of course.
If dividends are taxed, the EPF's income will drop in tandem.
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unless epf is exempted of course... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 8 2023, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Oct 8 2023, 12:29 PM)
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-gst-govt-told/

So after dividend is taxed. Epf dividends drop or not?
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another stupid article from them...

also keep trying to now double tax the rich again...

gst is one of the better ways to tax the underground shadow tax evasion economy... they cant run unless they dont spend at all... wink.gif


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