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Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina has admitted the Anfield outfit 'can't compete' in the Premier League title race.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11...ague-title-race
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Feb 4 2013, 09:04 PM)
Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina has admitted the Anfield outfit 'can't compete' in the Premier League title race.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11...ague-title-race
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I think he should shut his mouth after yesterday howler....
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THE HAGUE: Investigators from across Europe said on Monday they had identified about 380 football matches that had been fixed across Europe, bringing in about 8 million euros in profits, reported Eurosport.

Speaking in The Hague, Europol head Rob Wainright said the joint investigation had identified about 425 corrupt officials, players and serious criminals in 15 countries.

"This is a sad day for European football," said Wainwright.

He said a Singapore-based criminal network was involved in the match fixing, spending up to 100,000 euros (£86,000) per match to bribe players and officials.
http://www.malaysiandigest.com/sports/2456...land-fixed.html

hmmm
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QUOTE(red_brick_zero @ Feb 4 2013, 10:25 PM)
Premier League too? Oh please raid some tongue.gif It's gonna be so much fun....End up we kena raid doh.gif
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match fixing?? old story laaa
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well reina is telling the sad truth...

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what is interests me is...

"This has been the most unsettled season, both personally and as a team, since I joined the club."

what is he thinking though.....
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well reina is telling the sad truth...

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what is interests me is...

"This has been the most unsettled season, both personally and as a team, since I joined the club."

what is he thinking though.....
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obviously looking for excuses so he can leave.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 5 2013, 12:31 AM)
obviously looking for excuses so he can leave.
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Reina, he's like gettting worse game by game. Don't know whether his mind is still at Liverpool anymore or he is really dreaming of going back to Barca. sad.gif
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same perangai wif Torres  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Feb 4 2013, 11:32 PM)
match fixing?? old story laaa
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"Wainwright would not reveal the identity of the Champions League match staged in the UK under suspicion due to "ongoing judicial proceedings" - he did confirm it had taken place in the last three to four years"

Phew... we are out of Champions League for so long, we are safe. tongue.gif

Now who's the culprit? MU, MC, Arses or Chelsea? biggrin.gif

Calciopoli relegated Old Lady to Serie B and other teams minus points. If it's the Arses, then we got a chance to go top 4. HAHA thumbup.gif
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"Wainwright would not reveal the identity of the Champions League match staged in the UK under suspicion due to "ongoing judicial proceedings" - he did confirm it had taken place in the last three to four years"

Phew... we are out of Champions League for so long, we are safe. tongue.gif

Now who's the culprit? MU, MC, Arses or Chelsea? biggrin.gif

Calciopoli relegated Old Lady to Serie B and other teams minus points. If it's the Arses, then we got a chance to go top 4. HAHA  thumbup.gif
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wenger is too good to matchfix...
i place bets on redknapp biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 5 2013, 01:04 AM)
"Wainwright would not reveal the identity of the Champions League match staged in the UK under suspicion due to "ongoing judicial proceedings" - he did confirm it had taken place in the last three to four years"

Phew... we are out of Champions League for so long, we are safe. tongue.gif

Now who's the culprit? MU, MC, Arses or Chelsea? biggrin.gif

Calciopoli relegated Old Lady to Serie B and other teams minus points. If it's the Arses, then we got a chance to go top 4. HAHA  thumbup.gif
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Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet has claimed the Champions League game in England allegedly involving match-fixing was Liverpool against Debrecen in 2009.

Their report places no suspicion on Liverpool whatsoever and instead claims Debrecen's Montenegrin goalkeeper Vukasin Poleksic was ‘bribed to ensure the match ended with at least three goals’.

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Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet has claimed the Champions League game in England allegedly involving match-fixing was Liverpool against Debrecen in 2009.

Their report places no suspicion on Liverpool whatsoever and instead claims Debrecen's Montenegrin goalkeeper Vukasin Poleksic was ‘bribed to ensure the match ended with at least three goals’.

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btw, is sturridge the first liverpool player to get booked for diving this season? or did suarez beat him to it?
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How Brendan Rodgers is becoming the new Rafa Benitez at Anfield
By Kopology on February 4, 2013


No sooner had Brendan Rodgers been appointed Liverpool manager, than the internal clocks of many Liverpool fans began to ominously tick.

Modern football is a ruthless game, especially for managers sandwiched between fans demanding instant success and owners quick to scapegoat them when it isn’t forthcoming. At Liverpool, fan expectation correlates not with the club’s stature or current playing squad, but with the glorious achievements of an ever more distant past.

With Liverpool’s illustrious history as a backdrop, Brendan Rodgers looked like a child at the wheel of a juggernaut as the new Liverpool manager. A man out of his depth. An impostor. But this wasn’t just because of who Brendan Rodgers was. It was in part because of who he wasn’t: Rafael Benitez.
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/02/how-b...tez-at-anfield/

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Football purists like me may not like to hear it but match fixing is very real, especially in the bigger leagues. It's why my mates bet only on smaller ones like the Danish or Swedish leagues. Why do you reckon they allow bets up to the 85th minute? All those last minute equalisers in stoppage time aren't always the stuff of legends. Every other sport has been corrupted so why not the most watched sport in the world? Why haven't FIFA implemented goal line technology or video replays after all these years when sports like rugby and tennis have?

Football today is a lucrative business and that's exactly why the syndicates have come sniffing.
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QUOTE(red_brick_zero @ Feb 5 2013, 06:49 AM)
Likewise. The boss has my full backing and support. I had my apprehensions initially but after listening to the man speak, I find him to be a very intelligent manager with a strong belief in his football philosophies. Let's give Brendan his full 3-year term I say.
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QUOTE(red_brick_zero @ Feb 5 2013, 06:49 AM)
nice read there.
didnt know he bring 180 page of manifesto to the owner..

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damn! he owes us 2 goals haha


btw, is sturridge the first liverpool player to get booked for diving this season? or did suarez beat him to it?
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Sturridge's first time touch is very good....and he would have got the penalty IF he was not so theatrical about it.
Lescot came acroos his legs......
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Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet has claimed the Champions League game in England allegedly involving match-fixing was Liverpool against Debrecen in 2009.

Their report places no suspicion on Liverpool whatsoever and instead claims Debrecen's Montenegrin goalkeeper Vukasin Poleksic was ‘bribed to ensure the match ended with at least three goals’.

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eh, why we on match-fixing news? arghhh...!!! dont lose Integrity man...
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No reports of any wrongdoing by the club thus far. So, don't worry until there's something to be worried about.
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QUOTE(normeck @ Feb 5 2013, 10:05 AM)
eh, why we on match-fixing news? arghhh...!!! dont lose Integrity man...
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We are not fixing. We are being fixed! So this is the difference.

Fixing = points deduction, relegation.

Being fixed (Victim) = add bonus points in EPL plus monetary compensation biggrin.gif

Top 4! HAHA
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We are not fixing. We are being fixed! So this is the difference.

Fixing = points deduction, relegation.

Being fixed (Victim) = add bonus points in EPL plus monetary compensation biggrin.gif

Top 4! HAHA
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LOL keep dreaming dillon, keep dreaming. tongue.gif But yeah, we are not the ones fixing so it should be ok. That Debrecen GK must be in deep shit now. Already banned 2 years by UEFA once before, according to the reports anyway.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...igation?cc=4716
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LOL keep dreaming dillon, keep dreaming.  tongue.gif  But yeah, we are not the ones fixing so it should be ok. That Debrecen GK must be in deep shit now. Already banned 2 years by UEFA once before, according to the reports anyway.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...igation?cc=4716
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Are we really that bad that even when someone bribed the opposition goalie to let in 3 goals and we only manage to score 1. biggrin.gif
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Are we really that bad that even when someone bribed the opposition goalie to let in 3 goals and we only manage to score 1. biggrin.gif
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That was what i was thinking as well. It makes us look like crap! HAHA.
Debrecen must pay us compensation for at least half a century of reputation damage with $1million for each accounting year. That means $50mil. biggrin.gif

PLUS, we must smack the players for being so crappy in 2009. tongue.gif


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Yup. Word has it around the Merseyside that he's coming back one of the days.
To have lunch with Gerrard.  thumbup.gif
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Yup. Word has it around the Merseyside that he's coming back one of the days.
To have lunch with Gerrard.  thumbup.gif
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no la, he'll be having tea with reina in some posh london cafe...

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no la, he'll be having tea with reina in some posh london cafe...
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#axzz2Jko7BGw6

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Deservingly as well. It was not just a mistake. It was pure stupidity. Schoolboy, wait, Kindergarten error. Even my classmate dont do that for the blue team when he was playing as goalkeeper.

The price he pays now is bigger than he can imagine. It's not just the 2 points. He has lost the trust of everyone.
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By the way, I kinda like the QPR keeper. Cesar is it? Whatever his name is, he's like a spiderman. Made so many impossible / dramatic instinctive saves. Without him, QPR is long gone. Hmm....who can we give to Uncle Harry. Reina wont go there. Gulasci plus Jay Spearing. tongue.gif
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The signing of Julio Cesar from Inter was a major coup in my books. He has bags of experience at international and club level. It is akin to the time Fulham signed Van Der Sar. Having said that Cesar wouldn't be my first choice. He's got good reflexes but I'm not convinced he commands his box well and can deal with crosses. Heck, maybe I've just got something against Brazilian keepers in general. Not since Taffarel have Brazil had a consistent goalkeeper. Dida was supposed to be the answer but his sudden loss of form remains a mystery. Maybe losing to us in Istanbul was too much for him to take smile.gif Based on current form, I'd say Begovic is a better bet. He's worked hard to displace Sorensen and with Butland having signed, Stoke could cash in on him especially since they have both Sorensen and Carlo Nash as backups.

I feel sad for Pepe. He was just coming into a bit of form before this calamatous error. Having said that it isn't the first time Pepe has been caught in no man's land. Unlike in previous instances where he's successfully managed to close the angle down, sheparding the opposing forward wide of goal, Sergio Aguero managed to slot it in from a very acute angle. That's Pepe though. Some say he invented the term sweeper-keeper and we shouldn't let one error erase from memory the times he's come off his line and got to the ball first either with his feet or head. He isn't having the best of seasons but he's given years of tremendous service to the club. He's already receiving a lot of flak so let us not let him walk alone eh?

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 5 2013, 01:39 PM)
By the way, I kinda like the QPR keeper. Cesar is it? Whatever his name is, he's like a spiderman. Made so many impossible / dramatic instinctive saves. Without him, QPR is long gone. Hmm....who can we give to Uncle Harry. Reina wont go there. Gulasci plus Jay Spearing. tongue.gif
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Other players like Fabio Aurelio, Lucas still okay...

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He's already receiving a lot of flak so let us not let him walk alone eh?
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I hate to say this but his time is done, Duke. Look at the way he communicate with his defenders. It's no longer there. I cant see the old Reina shouting and barking instructions, punching his fist in the air if someone is not listening carefully and almost let opponent score. I have not seen that for quite some time in fact. That burning enthusiasm and fiery desire to do well.

As much as I miss that Reina that ran 80 meters to hug David Ngog for scoring a brilliant goal against MU in the dying minutes when we won 2-0, which was quite some time ago, i am afraid that Reina is gone.

Now what's left is a person by the name of Jose Manuel Reina trying to abide his contract and pray for time to fly by.
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I hate to say this but his time is done, Duke. Look at the way he communicate with his defenders. It's no longer there. I cant see the old Reina shouting and barking instructions, punching his fist in the air if someone is not listening carefully and almost let opponent score. I have not seen that for quite some time in fact. That burning enthusiasm and fiery desire to do well.

As much as I miss that Reina that ran 80 meters to hug David Ngog for scoring a brilliant goal against MU in the dying minutes when we won 2-0, which was quite some time ago, i am afraid that Reina is gone.

Now what's left is a person by the name of Jose Manuel Reina trying to abide his contract and pray for time to fly by.
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Those things you've mentioned, haven't seen that in like 1 and a half years. His heart is just not 100% with Liverpool anymore. Let's just see how he performs in the next few games. Hopefully BR says a quiet word or two to him to turn his form around again. At least give his all until the end of the season and if he does decide to go, then let him go. No point keeping a GK who doesn't want to be there anymore.
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Those things you've mentioned, haven't seen that in like 1 and a half years. His heart is just not 100% with Liverpool anymore. Let's just see how he performs in the next few games. Hopefully BR says a quiet word or two to him to turn his form around again. At least give his all until the end of the season and if he does decide to go, then let him go. No point keeping a GK who doesn't want to be there anymore.
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Yes. He's already showing the Spanish signal like Torres once did. Let's just focus on moving on. Let him go to his Barcelona team if they wants him.
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If he wants to go then be it.... He is still our savior for many many match.... But I think it's a norm... Ppl will only see the mistakes and never the good deed... Happens in football and happens in life....
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If he wants to go then be it.... He is still our savior for many many match.... But I think it's a norm... Ppl will only see the mistakes and never the good deed... Happens in football and happens in life....
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Nope. I am not looking at his mistakes only. I have been studying his attitude for a while now. In fact, to be really sure, I watch MIO stadium video replay a few times which means I watched our matches 2 to 3 times for each game. I know I am football crazy. I love to study players and tactic for fun.

His attitude is different from the past. Whether that has any impact directly on his performance, I do not know. I hope it is just a mood swing. But if it is a mood swing, it's been too long.

His attitude and desire for winning is no longer there. Watch the replay again, you will know. He is still class at times with superb saves but his desire is slowly waning.
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If a player no longer have the right attitude to keep the team together, he has to go. As with the case of Ruud Van Horse Nistelrooy Vs Oldman Fergie. He was top scorer, but so what. Wrong attitude, exit door. It disrupts the team from building on towards the progress we desire.
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wrong attitude exit door. SAF would have been booted out long ago (remember beckham boot kena mata incident etc). manu dressing room is more like don agree w da boss, exit door, no matter who you are biggrin.gif
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Is just speculation... We should give the benefit of a doubt... I've learn my lesson when I heavily criticized Lucas few years back... Glad to be proven wrong though... Form is temporary, class is permanent....
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 5 2013, 04:13 PM)
wrong attitude exit door. SAF would have been booted out long ago (remember beckham boot kena mata incident etc). manu dressing room is more like don agree w da boss, exit door, no matter who you are biggrin.gif
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A good manager can build a team of good players that win you trophies. SAF was undoubtedly a good manager.

MU did the right thing way back then.

And we did the wrong thing in not pleading, begging, down on our knees to ask King Kenny not to go in 1990. But in the case of Steven Gerrard 2005 U-turn, we did. Moores personally persuaded him to stay.

We have let our stupidity carry on for far too long that it became part of our not so illustrious history now.

And now we have got a good manager with great potential. We must hang on to him. And just in case if his name skips our mind abit, his name is Brendan Rodgers. Hehe biggrin.gif
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lol, im reading dillonyong blog..and read about he getting sack and Yen!..I think Yen should know the truth...LOL
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Pete, what are you doing la? Put the url and no description. Later if it is a pornpicture, my boss will kill me. heheheh
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Pete, what are you doing la? Put the url and no description. Later if it is a pornpicture, my boss will kill me. heheheh
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 5 2013, 04:00 PM)
If a player no longer have the right attitude to keep the team together, he has to go. As with the case of Ruud Van Horse Nistelrooy Vs Oldman Fergie. He was top scorer, but so what. Wrong attitude, exit door. It disrupts the team from building on towards the progress we desire.
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Reina has a bad attitude now, I agree. But I look to the first save he made vs David Silva to remind me he still has relevance in our team for now.
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QUOTE(reehdus @ Feb 5 2013, 06:24 PM)
Reina has a bad attitude now, I agree. But I look to the first save he made vs David Silva to remind me he still has relevance in our team for now.
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We have no choice anyway. We gotta stick with him till end of the season. I still harbor the faint hope of him changing his attitude and make a U-turn and bring back the once most respected Pepe Reina to us instead of the plain normal Jose Manuel Reina.
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We spoke some time back about Reina and I pointed out how it was likely he'd leave based on the things he's said in is interviews. I can't say I blame him if he wants to go to Barca, his boyhood club or anywhere else to win medals. He's given us years of dedicated service but we aren't any closer to winning the elusive Premier League title, nor are we competing in the Champions League. I reckon a change of scenery will do him good. I for one am grateful for his contributions to the club and if he wants to leave, I say we applaud him on his way out. No ill feelings.
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if pepe goes back to barca, he'll just be the no.2.
better abramovich pays us 50m for pepe...then we buy joe hart for 20m biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 5 2013, 07:21 PM)
We spoke some time back about Reina and I pointed out how it was likely he'd leave based on the things he's said in is interviews. I can't say I blame him if he wants to go to Barca, his boyhood club or anywhere else to win medals. He's given us years of dedicated service but we aren't any closer to winning the elusive Premier League title, nor are we competing in the Champions League. I reckon a change of scenery will do him good. I for one am grateful for his contributions to the club and if he wants to leave, I say we applaud him on his way out. No ill feelings.
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Yeah, of course. He has done so much for us already. He got us the FA Cup and with his perfect distribution we knocked MU 1-4 in OT and almost catching them in the process in that very season. And his steady contributions continue to the period when we are so off form. I have nothing but respect for him. If he feels he need a new challenge elsewhere, I am sure most fans will give him the blessing. ANd he will never walk alone. Always will be in our memory.

The more pressing issue is who should replace him. Going by our policy, I am sure we are gonna hunt for a young and outstanding keeper. Hopefully they will bring in someone who has leadership quality as well.
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Watching the match fixing report on Fox now. Bloke named Wilson Raj spilled the beans after allegedly being betrayed by another bloke named Dan Tan. Wilson Raj is now under house arrest in Hungary and is a convicted match fixer. Now I've met bookies, and I've heard the results of matches being predicted before the game. Usually I stay away from this because I don't want to know what the score will be.

In an inquiry that began 18 months ago has found that an estimated 640 games are dubious. Corruption and match fixing aren't new to the game but this report may just blow it wide open. It's the first time I can remember an inquiry being made into a global syndicate, affecting games all around the world. Big news indeed.
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The more pressing issue is who should replace him. Going by our policy, I am sure we are gonna hunt for a young and outstanding keeper. Hopefully they will bring in someone who has leadership quality as well.
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among the PL keepers...joe hart whistling.gif
26 this yr, and was somewhat in contention for the england captaincy...

another one of cos is tim krul...or we can steal begovic...
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among the PL keepers...joe hart  whistling.gif
26 this yr, and was somewhat in contention for the england captaincy...

another one of cos is tim krul...or we can steal begovic...
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Let's just say Joe is available. Is he really a leader? We are lacking a leader at the back without Carra. I dont see that in him. Van der sar, Kahn, Lehmann, Grobelaar, Schmeichel all have big presence. Not sure about Krul and Begovic in terms of leadership but they are very good as well.

I think Cesar will be good if he's available but that will only happen at the expense of QPR dropping down.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 5 2013, 08:07 PM)
Let's just say Joe is available. Is he really a leader? We are lacking a leader at the back without Carra. I dont see that in him. Van der sar, Kahn, Lehmann, Grobelaar, Schmeichel all have big presence. Not sure about Krul and Begovic in terms of leadership but they are very good as well.

I think Cesar will be good if he's available but that will only happen at the expense of QPR dropping down.
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of cos he is.
and the joe hart debate has been going on within LFC fans for a couple yrs now...and its almost always split down the middle...tho steve clarke while at LFC has said that hart is the best keeper in england.
plus this season, hart looks set on equalling reina's record of 3 golden gloves award, and which reina last won in 2008...that pretty much says it all.

oh ya, cesar is 34 this yr...
if we're going for younger keepers with PL experience...i cant see anyone else except hart / krul / begovic...26 / 25 / 26 yrs old respectively this yr.

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of cos he is.
and the joe hart debate has been going on within LFC fans for a couple yrs now...and its almost always split down the middle...tho steve clarke while at LFC has said that hart is the best keeper in england.
plus this season, hart looks set on equalling reina's record of 3 golden gloves award, and which reina last won in 2008...that pretty much says it all.

oh ya, cesar is 34 this yr...
if we're going for younger keepers with PL experience...i cant see anyone else except hart / krul / begovic...26 / 25 / 26 yrs old respectively this yr.
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He is undoubtedly good, infact brilliant at times just like how he save the shot from Sturridge in the dying minutes but Kompany is the leader at the back.
We need someone who can organise the defense because our defending of set piece has been really really poor.

No kidding man. I watched the replay, I saw so many times Man City players winning the header but the ball fly out. Had they been more clinical we would have been punished. It is quite disturbing.
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He is undoubtedly good, infact brilliant at times just like how he save the shot from Sturridge in the dying minutes but Kompany is the leader at the back.
We need someone who can organise the defense because our defending of set piece has been really really poor.

No kidding man. I watched the replay, I saw so many times Man City players winning the header but the ball fly out. Had they been more clinical we would have been punished. It is quite disturbing.
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usually its the keeper's job to arrange the defence...tho usually there isnt much to be arranged except for the wall.
when defending set pieces, usually that has all been done in training already, and it should be understood by the players who should go where for zonal / man marking.
i think what it comes down to is that our defence is not aggressive enough...even nowadays skrtel gets pushed around in the box...
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What about the Mexican keeper Ochoa? 27 years old. Read that Rogers is interested in him. Never seen him play though. Any good? 50 caps for Mexico with 20 clean sheets.
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What about the Mexican keeper Ochoa? 27 years old. Read that Rogers is interested in him. Never seen him play though. Any good? 50 caps for Mexico with 20 clean sheets.
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More on Ochoa.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1495772...transfer-target
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DUH! Media digging out old story to sell newspaper. Linking Liverpool surely can give them more sales heh? What a cheap shot. vmad.gif

Debrecen slams CL fixing reports as old news
http://www.rediff.com/sports/report/debrec...ws/20130205.htm?
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 5 2013, 11:52 PM)
DUH! Media digging out old story to sell newspaper. Linking Liverpool surely can give them more sales heh? What a cheap shot. vmad.gif

Debrecen slams CL fixing reports as old news
http://www.rediff.com/sports/report/debrec...ws/20130205.htm?
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Obviously because who cares about Debrecen tongue.gif. That news came out shortly after some match fixing evidence is discovered. Some media korek2 old story and voila instant traffic as their the first to follow up the match fixing news.

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He's pretty good. And gotta be the most reasonable replacement for Reina as his contract is running out. I wouldn't be surprised though if a CL team hijack him from us biggrin.gif
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DUH! Media digging out old story to sell newspaper. Linking Liverpool surely can give them more sales heh? What a cheap shot. vmad.gif

Debrecen slams CL fixing reports as old news
http://www.rediff.com/sports/report/debrec...ws/20130205.htm?
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there is our new GK!
paid to let in 3 goals, but he was so good only 1 went in!

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Hmm talented player but he's been plagued by injury.
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Luis Suarez does Liverpool proud as he dodges traps of Marca interview

When a genuinely top player does a two page spread interview with Marca then it's easy to assume one thing before even reading it. And that is that Marca will ask if they fancy playing for Real Madrid, or in La Liga in general, and the player will flirt with the idea. Then, when it all hits the fan, the player blames the foreign newspaper and a problem with translation and fans swear at the media and carry on.

That's exactly what we thought would happen with Luis Suarez, Marca can be very persuasive. But Suarez didn't fall into any of the traps and it's clear that the interview was in no way designed to put his future on the agenda. Something which a certain Edinson Cavani doesn't share with his Uruguayan team mate this week.

Asked about Liverpool and what may happen in the summer, Luis said:

"I'm fine, we're growing. We are not the Liverpool of old, we come through a bump, but this is a period of transition, with a new coach and a philosophy of play. Only thing we lack is the results and to finish in Champions (League places)."

And then, Marca being as subtle as a brick, asked 'And your future?', Luis said:

"I have a contract until 2018. My family is very good here and I'm fulfilling a dream: playing at a club in which every child wants to play. So for now I'm calm."

Marca do put a little column about a possible move into the piece but were unable to get anything from the Liverpool striker to back this up or expand on it. He seems to be very respectful toward his club and not naive enough to fall into the traps sets by Marca.

Suarez talked about his love of watching football and says he watches the German and Spanish leagues as well as other matches in England, he says his fondness for the game is what drove him to become a professional.

He even managed to dodge controversy when asked if Manchester United would get knocked out by Real Madrid in the Champions League. Marca tee'd him up for a catty reply by telling him that in Spain they consider Real Madrid to be favourties, Suarez simply replied "The eliminator is going to be a very nice and competitive."

After the trouble with his last interview in South America, where he criticised Manchester United and talked of diving, it appears he's learning and that can only be good for the club. The fans who slammed Brendan Rodgers for disciplining him over that interview were perhaps a bit too harsh, because it's certainly worked.

Rather than fall into any traps this time, and feed unhelpful rumours about his future, Suarez has surfed the interview well and shown his respect for Liverpool throughout.

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/...s-of-marca-inte
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ochoa = looks agile and eccentric. A head of hair between the post can be a refreshing sight? 
HBA = injury prone..broke leg once. Broken goods are considered sold. i doubt his fitness. Otherwise, a massively talented flair player.
Reina = Just not good enough. Period.
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HBA can come here and we will use the new conditioning method to treat him after each game. He will be fit as hell. biggrin.gif
But he will put in some sub standard performances at first due to lack of pushing so hard for sharpness but that's ok.

Carloz28 will criticize him for a few games and then he will be back to full swing. tongue.gif
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ben arfa is very interesting, but i also wonder why nobody ever bid for aghbonlahor...
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 08:46 AM)
For those with a axe to grind with Pepe Reina
http://basstunedtored.com/2013/02/05/the-t...rors/#more-3645
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http://basstunedtored.com/2012/06/29/the-d...-of-pepe-reina/

i think some of the forumers correctly pointed out that % of save by reina had dipped. that is the other half of the concern
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 10:28 AM)
ben arfa is very interesting, but i also wonder why nobody ever bid for aghbonlahor...
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Maybe it's because of his name, Pete.

Agbon-da-whore. HAHA biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 10:33 AM)
Maybe it's because of his name, Pete.

Agbon-da-whore. HAHA biggrin.gif
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Can you imagine how the anti liverpool media will make fun of us?

The S*n will probably write:
Main Headline: "Liverpool got their "hor"
Sub headline: Who the "hor"? Agbonlahor!

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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 10:32 AM)
http://basstunedtored.com/2012/06/29/the-d...-of-pepe-reina/

i think some of the forumers correctly pointed out that % of save by reina had dipped. that is the other half of the concern
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Everyone has off days/season....remeber that Class is permamnent?
The last two or so years has seen Stevie dropping in form.........

Sometimes we are kneejerkers, especially when we are in a vally without light....

Defence is not just about the keeper...i put 3 of the last four goals as Agger's fault
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 10:53 AM)
Everyone has off days/season....remeber that Class is permamnent?
The last two or so years has seen Stevie dropping in form.........

Sometimes we are kneejerkers, especially when we are in a vally without light....

Defence is not just about the keeper...i put 3 of the last four goals as Agger's fault
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agger is class, and class is permanent rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 10:53 AM)
Everyone has off days/season....remeber that Class is permamnent?
The last two or so years has seen Stevie dropping in form.........

Sometimes we are kneejerkers, especially when we are in a vally without light....

Defence is not just about the keeper...i put 3 of the last four goals as Agger's fault
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Of course his class is still there but his atitude has changed. Steve never change his commitment to liverpool. It's always Red and Blood Red and nothing else for him in his head and in his heart. Same goes for us here.

But somehow for Peps, things have changed. I hope I am wrong and that he will become committed again. His defeatist attitude is worrying, Props.

He's not the same passionate Reina that we saw. Unless he is going through some personal trauma, then I would understand.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 10:55 AM)
agger is class, and class is permanent  rolleyes.gif
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STILL his fault for those goals

a) Lost the header to Giroud
b) Didnt blcok Walcott's shot
c) Played Milner? on, lost Dzeko

How?
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 10:56 AM)
Of course his class is still there but his atitude has changed. Steve never change his commitment to liverpool. It's always Red and Blood Red and nothing else for him in his head and in his heart. Same goes for us here.

But somehow for Peps, things have changed. I hope I am wrong and that he will become committed again. His defeatist attitude is worrying, Props.

He's not the same passionate Reina that we saw. Unless he is going through some personal trauma, then I would understand.
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How can you judge his attitude frm 30,000 kms away? biggrin.gif

We can only judge his performance ler.........
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 10:56 AM)
Of course his class is still there but his atitude has changed. Steve never change his commitment to liverpool. It's always Red and Blood Red and nothing else for him in his head and in his heart. Same goes for us here.

But somehow for Peps, things have changed. I hope I am wrong and that he will become committed again. His defeatist attitude is worrying, Props.

He's not the same passionate Reina that we saw. Unless he is going through some personal trauma, then I would understand.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 10:58 AM)
STILL his fault for those goals

a) Lost the header to Giroud
b) Didnt blcok Walcott's shot
c) Played Milner? on, lost Dzeko

How?
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dillon said it well. i hope reina regain his form and confidence. right now he doesnt look like having or giving 100%. somehow it felt like reina is going through something, maybe all the drama in recent years had drained him...

but agger's attitude is always 101% on the field. you see it in his body language, compare to reina...

by the way how to differentiate a player has got class or just form? up until now reina is a class keeper, but the main question is not whether he is class or not, is about his form. some players dont recover, some recover quick some slow. torres is prefect example. he is form or class? class player with no form? i can take that but if he is only 30% class and 70% no form his entire career i dont know how to call him biggrin.gif

just my 2 cents

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 10:59 AM)
How can you judge his attitude frm 30,000 kms away?    biggrin.gif

We can only judge his performance ler.........
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I watched him closely through all the replay videos that MIO tv offered here in SG. The Pepe of 2006 is gone, at least in terms of attitude. I just dont want a half hearted player dangling around not knowing what he wants or where he wants to be.

If his heart is with us, then I duly forgive his error and will be fully behind him. But I dont think that is the case though.

He's not even man enough to admit his mistake and apologize for that costly error.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 11:00 AM)
dillon said it well. i hope reina regain his form and confidence. right now he doesnt look like having or giving 100%. somehow it felt like reina is going through something, maybe all the drama in recent years had drained him...
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i can'T judge ATTitude from 30,000 miles away

He can only makes saves that he can make. He made quite a feew saves in the last 2 games........ IF his defenders gives attackers a field day..........How?

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 11:03 AM)
I watched him closely through all the replay videos that MIO tv offered here in SG. The Pepe of 2006 is gone, at least in terms of attitude. I just dont want a half hearted player dangling around not knowing what he wants or where he wants to be.

If his heart is with us, then I duly forgive his error and will be fully behind him. But I dont think that is the case though.

He's not even man enough to admit his mistake and apologize for that costly error.
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i said this before and i hate to say it again - for a class keeper, reina gets beat too easily and too many times at his near post
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 11:05 AM)
i said this before and i hate to say it again - for a class keeper, reina gets beat too easily and too many times at his near post
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Let's put in our perspective as a normal working employee. We all have that before. I mean, at least most of us have faced that before.
When you were thinking of leaving a company, what sort of performance you put in? Half heartedly most of the time. Your head is just not there anymore. You are just doing what you are supposed to, for responsibility sake. When the time comes, you hand in the "Dear John" letter. That is what is going through our head.

It should not be so dissimilar for a footballer. It's about the same.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 11:03 AM)


He's not even man enough to admit his mistake and apologize for that costly error.
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Does pulling his jersey over his head at the end count?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 11:16 AM)
Does pulling his jersey over his head at the end count?
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As Brandy said, "Everybody knows, almost doesnt count". LOL biggrin.gif

Have the courtesy to step up and apologize and take one for the team. I would have done that. I would have taken it and swallowed it down and prove myself again to the fans. Probably the Reina in the past will as well.

If his head is not with us, then he's free to go. I will always respect and remember him. Always. But if he wants to stay, he stays for the reason of fully committing to us. And that means, all the passion of yesteryear have to come back. Not in few months time, not in next season. Now. It has to be NOW.
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Poor reina. He did cost ut a lot this last 2 seasons.

But eople who are asking him to be kicked out are the one who should get some kick up their arse.

Reina could easily left us before but he stays with us especially during the hard time. Give the lad some respect! Please.

I bet after he was sold some of this shite fan will be the most sentimental. like "I missed reina, why did we sell him?".
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QUOTE(seizer @ Feb 6 2013, 11:25 AM)
Poor reina. He did cost ut a lot this last 2 seasons.

But eople who are asking him to be kicked out are the one who should get some kick up their arse.

Reina could easily left us before but he stays with us especially during the hard time. Give the lad some respect! Please.

I bet after he was sold some of this shite fan will be the most sentimental. like "I missed reina, why did we sell him?".
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Hear Hear!

he could have gone to Arsene.........OR MancsU............
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QUOTE(seizer @ Feb 6 2013, 11:25 AM)
Poor reina. He did cost ut a lot this last 2 seasons.

But eople who are asking him to be kicked out are the one who should get some kick up their arse.

Reina could easily left us before but he stays with us especially during the hard time. Give the lad some respect! Please.

I bet after he was sold some of this shite fan will be the most sentimental. like "I missed reina, why did we sell him?".
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Read, dude. Read.

I question his attitude. That's all.
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Read, dude. Read.

I question his attitude. That's all.
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http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=302836.0

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This is something that had been bothering me for a while.  If this thread is pointless the mods can delete.  However, we as fans always talk about loyalty.  We talk about lack of loyalty in the modern player. We, after all, love out club and stick with it through the good and bad times.  Now personally, I don't care if players are loyal.  It is their career.  As long as they give 100% while they are here and leave in the correct manner, I'm okay with it.  In fact, to be honest, I find it slightly annoying when grown men and women whine about players leaving their club.  Grow up, it's their career.  Sure, we want the top players to play for us and love the club but it's not the reality.  If Suarez were to leave at the end of the season (I don't believe he will btw), I'll be devastated to see him go, but wish him well, as he gave everything while at the club.  He can look in the mirror and say he served us as well as he could while he was here (just as he served his previous clubs).

It is worth nothing however, that fans who hold loyalty in such high esteem, rarely return it.  Let me use Pepe Reina as an example.  If he had left us a few seasons back (when he was winning golden gloves left, right and centre) many on here would have condemned him.  I am sure many would have insulted him branding him greedy, a sell out etc.  For whatever reason, he didn't leave us.  He stayed, signed a new long term contract.  He is now going through a dip in form (maybe a permanent dip).  Some fans say he should be sold, he's past it, he's made 8 mistakes that have cost us (most fans who quote this figure can't actually name these mistakes but it doesn't matter, they read it somewhere).  He could say he showed us loyalty when the club was in a huge slump because of the two cancers.  Surely, we should show him loyalty when he is going through a slump.  However, I don't want this to be a thread about Pepe, as there is already one.  He's just an example.

This is a thread about the hypocrisy of fans, who demand total loyalty from their players, but as soon as there is a dip in form or a better player available, soon forget their own responsibility to be loyal.  We see them kiss the badge, then they leave, they we vilify them.    Now don't get me wrong.  I believe if a player is past it, they should be sold or moved on.  If a better player is available, the should replace the current one.  This is the way of football, the way it should be.  Shankly, Paisley, Dalglish were ruthless... as they should be.  However, we can't have it both ways.  If we are willing to throw players aside for the good of the club, surely they should allowed throw the club aside for the good of their careers.  Then again, everyone loves to take the high road.

So, should we demand loyalty from players, but cast them aside when they are past their best or not useful to us anymore?  Are fans any better than the millionaire players they so readily judge?

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he is confused thats all, and we are just calling him to focus...

so sometimes he is not sure whether he should go in 110% or just half heartedly. this shows in his inconsistencies. clearly he loves the club, but sometimes you are not aware that you are not performing like you are capable of, it happens to everyone

BR really need to sit down with him and talk about it, hopefully a transformed reina after the weekend. we've got some serious catching up to do
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 11:37 AM)
its really easy for someone to post something, but i always read the whole thread and responses whenever i can, and reading the comments and feedback i think everyone have their own legit point of argument...

but we all love the club smile.gif
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 11:41 AM)
its really easy for someone to post something, but i always read the whole thread and responses whenever i can, and reading the comments and feedback i think everyone have their own legit point of argument...

but we all love the club smile.gif
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i thought it was timely because it could happen to Suarez as well.......or anyone else for the matter.

Appears Pepe had a chnge of goalkeeping coach.......
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 11:37 AM)
we also got hypocrisy within here...
Allen haters anyone? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 11:34 AM)
i question your judgement

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I will be delighted to be proven wrong. Extremely delighted. No point for me to win a debate in this. Not that i am going to get $1million pounds for guessing it correctly. biggrin.gif

I just dont see the commanding presence like before. He can cry all he wants, I want a leader in the D area. Proper communication and instruction has to flow to ensure our mean defensive record will come back. That will nicely compliment the ever emerging attacking force that we have currently built upon. That's my point.

I say again. If his head is with us, he has to re-analyse what made us all respect and love him so much for so many years. Never once I question Gerrard and Carra's commitment. Form maybe but commitment never.

If he's crying because in his mind he is thinking "Oh my God. If Barcelona watched this game, I aint going to Nou Camp this summer"

Then that's it.

Again, he stays for the reason of wanting to stay and wanting to give his best. Back then, the Reina I know would have shouted and screamed at defenders and getting them organised.


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 11:43 AM)
i thought it was timely because it could happen to Suarez as well.......or anyone else for the matter.

Appears Pepe had a chnge of goalkeeping coach.......
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indeed i think this is the main reason for his dip in form. you dont need to get different set of instructions every few months...
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 11:44 AM)
I will be delighted to be proven wrong. Extremely delighted. No point for me to win a debate in this. Not that i am going to get $1million pounds for guessing it correctly. biggrin.gif

I just dont see the commanding presence like before. He can cry all he wants, I want a leader in the D area. Proper communication and instruction has to flow to ensure our mean defensive record will come back. That will nicely compliment the ever emerging attacking force that we have currently built upon. That's my point.

I say again. If his head is with us, he has to re-analyse what made us all respect and love him so much for so many years. Never once I question Gerrard and Carra's commitment. Form maybe but commitment never.

If he's crying because in his mind he is thinking "Oh my God. If Barcelona watched this game, I aint going to Nou Camp this summer"

Then that's it.

Again, he stays for the reason of wanting to stay and wanting to give his best. Back then, the Reina I know would have shouted and screamed at defenders and getting them organised.
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i think i know liao... its this fella's fault

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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 11:46 AM)
i think i know liao... its this fella's fault

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Was it because of Claire Rourke again? Dont tell me Peps secretly adore Claire and BR snatched her away from him. Hehe biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 11:49 AM)
Was it because of Claire Rourke again? Dont tell me Peps secretly adore Claire and BR snatched her away from him. Hehe biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 6 2013, 11:44 AM)
indeed i think this is the main reason for his dip in form. you dont need to get different set of instructions every few months...
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u dont exactly get a dip in form just cos of a change in coach...especially for someone with more than 10yrs experience at top level between the posts.
hes got a 4th kid coming in march...and i just think hes missing home.
plus hes already seen 2 of his next door neighbors gone, in torres and rodriguez...now his current neighbor is suarez...could that be an omen? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 11:44 AM)
I will be delighted to be proven wrong. Extremely delighted. No point for me to win a debate in this. Not that i am going to get $1million pounds for guessing it correctly. biggrin.gif

I just dont see the commanding presence like before. He can cry all he wants, I want a leader in the D area. Proper communication and instruction has to flow to ensure our mean defensive record will come back. That will nicely compliment the ever emerging attacking force that we have currently built upon. That's my point.

I say again. If his head is with us, he has to re-analyse what made us all respect and love him so much for so many years. Never once I question Gerrard and Carra's commitment. Form maybe but commitment never.

If he's crying because in his mind he is thinking "Oh my God. If Barcelona watched this game, I aint going to Nou Camp this summer"

Then that's it.

Again, he stays for the reason of wanting to stay and wanting to give his best. Back then, the Reina I know would have shouted and screamed at defenders and getting them organised.
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You writings are already meting out judgement before proven......is that fair? Did Riena say he wants to go to Barca?
OR are you being mis led and driven to per-judgement by the media or hearsay?

we have a new manager, new coaching staff, new everything and you want Reina to behave as before with Rafa?
Hmmmmm
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there is no point in reina going to barca...he'll just end up being the no.2.
he should go to atletico...
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 11:51 AM)
You writings are already meting out judgement before proven......is that fair? Did Riena say he wants to go to Barca?
OR are you being mis led  and driven to per-judgement by the media or hearsay? 

we have a new manager, new coaching staff, new everything and you want Reina to behave as before with Rafa?
Hmmmmm
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Props again read selectively. LOL. biggrin.gif I rest my case. You are right. LOL. I am very unfair to Reina. I shall sit in the corner now and redeem myself. HAHA
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 6 2013, 11:50 AM)
u dont exactly get a dip in form just cos of a change in coach...especially for someone with more than 10yrs experience at top level between the posts.
hes got a 4th kid coming in march...and i just think hes missing home.
plus hes already seen 2 of his next door neighbors gone, in torres and rodriguez...now his current neighbor is suarez...could that be an omen?  whistling.gif
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this is interesting lol. i think maybe pepe a bit beh song suarez play fifa not using him in goal lol
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 11:54 AM)
doh.gif  doh.gif
Props again read selectively. LOL. biggrin.gif I rest my case. You are right. LOL. I am very unfair to Reina. I shall sit in the corner now and redeem myself. HAHA
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 11:54 AM)
doh.gif  doh.gif
Props again read selectively. LOL. biggrin.gif I rest my case. You are right. LOL. I am very unfair to Reina. I shall sit in the corner now and redeem myself. HAHA
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Echoes my sentiments exactly. Fans need to get it into their heads that while football might be just a source of entertainment for some of us, it is a career to players. Sure it's nice to have players pledge their undying loyalty to the club but which one of us stays with one company our whole lives? For those still studying, you'd understand when you join the workforce. I loved my previous job and company but I had to move on for my own benefit. I would have loved to stay but I have bills to pay and things I want to achieve in life so I left. Why should it be different for players? Just so long as they give us 100% while they are here, is all that matters to me. When I join a corporation I ask questions about where it's headed. It's the same I believe with footballers. If the club isn't going in the direction they want, than it's best to part ways.

Pepe has shown a great deal of commitment over the years. Like prophet has pointed out, he's signed new contracts despite his buddies leaving and the club being in turmoil at one point. If he wants to leave for Barca, I'd shake his hand and wish him well. It saddens me when I see comments telling him to bugger off if he isn't interested. He's been at the club some 7-8 years now and we're no closer to winning the league. If you were an employee and a company with no progress, wouldn't you be disheartened? Where is the motivation coming from? I feel we're better than that. When players show us loyalty and dedication, we reciprocate.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 6 2013, 11:53 AM)
there is no point in reina going to barca...he'll just end up being the no.2.
he should go to atletico...
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 6 2013, 11:56 AM)
NOW go sit in that corner and recite this for a hundred times

"i will not do this again"    tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 6 2013, 11:59 AM)
Echoes my sentiments exactly. Fans need to get it into their heads that while football might be just a source of entertainment for some of us, it is a career to players. Sure it's nice to have players pledge their undying loyalty to the club but which one of us stays with one company our whole lives? For those still studying, you'd understand when you join the workforce. I loved my previous job and company but I had to move on for my own benefit. I would have loved to stay but I have bills to pay and things I want to achieve in life so I left. Why should it be different for players? Just so long as they give us 100% while they are here, is all that matters to me. When I join a corporation I ask questions about where it's headed. It's the same I believe with footballers. If the club isn't going in the direction they want, than it's best to part ways.

Pepe has shown a great deal of commitment over the years. Like prophet has pointed out, he's signed new contracts despite his buddies leaving and the club being in turmoil at one point. If he wants to leave for Barca, I'd shake his hand and wish him well. It saddens me when I see comments telling him to bugger off if he isn't interested. He's been at the club some 7-8 years now and we're no closer to winning the league. If you were an employee and a company with no progress, wouldn't you be disheartened? Where is the motivation coming from? I feel we're better than that. When players show us loyalty and dedication, we reciprocate.
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The other point is a footballers career is much shorter than most of our careers...

This aspect has to impact their decision making on their own careers.

With this perspective, Suarez may leave in another year's time.

Not all are like Stevie and Carra......indeed they are the abnormals......
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QUOTE(4ddict @ Feb 6 2013, 01:24 PM)
Rivalry aside, R.I.P to the busby babes
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Today's the day? RIP to busby babes.

Sometimes all these air disaster makes me worry sick when I travel. Dont like it when my life is in someone else's hand and I have no control over it. hehe.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 01:31 PM)
Today's the day? RIP to busby babes.

Sometimes all these air disaster makes me worry sick when I travel. Dont like it when my life is in someone else's hand and I have no control over it. hehe.
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But rate is muuuccchhh much lower than road accident
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But rate is muuuccchhh much lower than road accident
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the rate is much lower but once it happen very hard to survive unless the passenger all bruce willis level
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QUOTE(4ddict @ Feb 6 2013, 01:44 PM)
the rate is much lower but once it happen very hard to survive unless the passenger all bruce willis level
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Your chances of survival is higher if you hide inside the toilet. As long as it is not a complete crash, you still have hope because no debris fly into your direction. hehehe. Only worried is shit fly out of the pot to your face. You may survive but smelly like hell you feel like dying. LOL

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When you drive on the roads in Msia, your life IS in the hands of others...........
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You can escape with your instinctive reaction, Props. Haha. I swerved and avoided a few. Lucky shot la but you get to be part of the action that saves you.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 6 2013, 11:59 AM)
Echoes my sentiments exactly. Fans need to get it into their heads that while football might be just a source of entertainment for some of us, it is a career to players. Sure it's nice to have players pledge their undying loyalty to the club but which one of us stays with one company our whole lives? For those still studying, you'd understand when you join the workforce. I loved my previous job and company but I had to move on for my own benefit. I would have loved to stay but I have bills to pay and things I want to achieve in life so I left. Why should it be different for players? Just so long as they give us 100% while they are here, is all that matters to me. When I join a corporation I ask questions about where it's headed. It's the same I believe with footballers. If the club isn't going in the direction they want, than it's best to part ways.

Pepe has shown a great deal of commitment over the years. Like prophet has pointed out, he's signed new contracts despite his buddies leaving and the club being in turmoil at one point. If he wants to leave for Barca, I'd shake his hand and wish him well. It saddens me when I see comments telling him to bugger off if he isn't interested. He's been at the club some 7-8 years now and we're no closer to winning the league. If you were an employee and a company with no progress, wouldn't you be disheartened? Where is the motivation coming from? I feel we're better than that. When players show us loyalty and dedication, we reciprocate.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 02:03 PM)
You can escape with your instinctive reaction, Props. Haha. I swerved and avoided a few. Lucky shot la but you get to be part of the action that saves you.
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What is this? The match between Liverpool and West Brom is 9th Feb or 11th Feb? WHy again different dates and timing being published from several websites? Frustrating.

http://www.itv.com/news/london/2012-06-18/...ures-2012-2013/
Premier League announced 9th Feb

But Liverpool Official Website stated 11th Feb. And the TV schedule has nothing on Liverpool on 9th and 11th. Really frustrating.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 02:34 PM)
What is this? The match between Liverpool and West Brom is 9th Feb or 11th Feb? WHy again different dates and timing being published from several websites? Frustrating.

http://www.itv.com/news/london/2012-06-18/...ures-2012-2013/
Premier League announced 9th Feb

But Liverpool Official Website stated 11th Feb. And the TV schedule has nothing on Liverpool on 9th and 11th. Really frustrating.
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Always put your trust on Liverpool's official website and Premier League website. It's on the 11th. biggrin.gif

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchda...iew=.dateSeason

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 6 2013, 02:43 PM)
Always put your trust on Liverpool's official website and Premier League website. It's on the 11th.  biggrin.gif

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchda...iew=.dateSeason
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dillonyong, u seems to have a lot of free time. heheh
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QUOTE(seizer @ Feb 6 2013, 03:38 PM)
dillonyong, u seems to have a lot of free time. heheh
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dillonyong, u seems to have a lot of free time. heheh
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i envy la. u every page oso got post. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Feb 6 2013, 04:03 PM)
true. u work as what eh dillon? can recommend me job?

i envy la. u every page oso got post. tongue.gif
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My job is not that easy lah bro. Unless you master it so well, then it is easy. I gotta increase Facebook followers, Twitter followers, LinkedIn connections, plan and implement the SEO strategy, increase web traffic, take care of online contents, blogging and writing, prepare, analyse and execute email campaigns and ensure people sign up for our events. Lastly, i gotta travel with the events team to support the event and do live tweeting in the conferences. Well, the good thing is:

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 04:08 PM)
My job is not that easy lah bro. Unless you master it so well, then it is easy. I gotta increase Facebook followers, Twitter followers, LinkedIn connections, plan and implement the SEO strategy, increase web traffic, take care of online contents, blogging and writing, prepare, analyse and execute email campaigns and ensure people sign up for our events. Lastly, i gotta travel with the events team to support the event and do live tweeting in the conferences. Well, the good thing is:

1) I get to chat with my buddies here
2) I get to travel alot

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Damn, can teach me SEO? I find it hard to learn myself sad.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 6 2013, 05:42 PM)
Damn, can teach me SEO? I find it hard to learn myself sad.gif
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Here you go. You can read it here. http://www.dillonyong.com/2011/12/seo-resu...-in-google.html

Bro, just follow Angela Backlinks. Her method is the best. Abit of manual work but worth it.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 6 2013, 04:08 PM)
My job is not that easy lah bro. Unless you master it so well, then it is easy. I gotta increase Facebook followers, Twitter followers, LinkedIn connections, plan and implement the SEO strategy, increase web traffic, take care of online contents, blogging and writing, prepare, analyse and execute email campaigns and ensure people sign up for our events. Lastly, i gotta travel with the events team to support the event and do live tweeting in the conferences. Well, the good thing is:

1) I get to chat with my buddies here
2) I get to travel alot

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LOL.
i used to do the stupid SEO crap with purpleclick...since ur in singapore im sure u heard of them.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#axzz2Jko7BGw6

Suarez looks funny as GK biggrin.gif
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haha, suarez and that young liverpool fans pic is thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 6 2013, 07:44 PM)
LOL.
i used to do the stupid SEO crap with purpleclick...since ur in singapore im sure u heard of them.
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Yup. Approached me before. But no point la. I am already doing that for my company.

By the way, I am watching the replay again. LOL. And I am very certain Petre's comment about Downing is harsh now. But I maintain my point of view with Reina because he lacks that character that made him great. He has to find it back. The old Reina will get up, clap his hand and encourage his team mate to move on after a set back. None of that was there.

As for Downing, he threw in so many fast passing to the path of Sturridge. It's just unfortunate that Sturridge couldnt connect because it was too fast. Just a touch, bang, tap in goal. In some instances, Sturridge over ran and the lightning pass from Downing went behind him a yard. WHat's more, he kept the possession pretty well and whenever he can, he will try all those lightning passes. In fact, he even won some headers albeit flying to nowhere.

So he's not that bad. He's not even close to being my favorite player. Just a fair assessment though.
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If theres a time you wish andy carrol is still in the time, i'd be now..since suarez being move from central...there's sturridge...i woudnt mind carrol being in there as well....its a triangle that i felt would work...suarez-carrol-sturridge...as they bring different quality, bear in mind we dont have a winner for headers ala aldridge...yadda yadda...some will jump all too quickly to say our system doest fit carrol...but i dont buy that...just like lambert...die die oso dont want to utilize darren bent - for christ sake - villa is not scoring enuf..and y lambert still feels that he dont need bent is shrouded in mystery..some times its the stubborness of the manager...i dont expect br to want carrol back...but back a few months ago..i dont expect downing to stay either...
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Skrtel linked with £13m return to Zenit with Russian transfer window still open

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Zenit playing mind games before meeting us...
Btw, joe hart did an excellent penalty double save against ronaldinho.
And not forgetting the pairing of Gerrard and his fanboy wilshere...future of England looks good in woy's hands...
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Zenit playing mind games before meeting us...
Btw, joe hart did an excellent penalty double save against ronaldinho.
And not forgetting the pairing of Gerrard and his fanboy wilshere...future of England looks good in woy's hands...
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You watched that game? Wow, bro. Dont you ever sleep? hehehe. You are even more passionate than me in terms of football. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

As much as I love England team too, I will only wake up at 4am for Liverpool.

Plus England under Woy = boring boring boring. Yawn...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 7 2013, 08:04 AM)
Zenit playing mind games before meeting us...
Btw, joe hart did an excellent penalty double save against ronaldinho.
And not forgetting the pairing of Gerrard and his fanboy wilshere...future of England looks good in woy's hands...
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Not bad eh the players performances everywhere. And Fab finally scores. hehe.

How Liverpool Players Fared On International Duty
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1519281...ernational-duty?
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Like the fact that Glen Johnson had Neymar in his back pocket. Much maligned for his apparent defensive deficiencies, he's been a rock this season and is easily one of our most consistent performers. Thumbs up!
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 7 2013, 09:39 AM)
You watched that game? Wow, bro. Dont you ever sleep? hehehe. You are even more passionate than me in terms of football.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

As much as I love England team too, I will only wake up at 4am for Liverpool.

Plus England under Woy = boring boring boring. Yawn...
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 7 2013, 10:50 AM)
Like the fact that Glen Johnson had Neymar in his back pocket. Much maligned for his apparent defensive deficiencies, he's been a rock this season and is easily one of our most consistent performers. Thumbs up!
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Totally agree. He's been solid all season. He still loses concentration on the defensive end at times though. But definitely improved from last season.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 7 2013, 10:55 AM)
Seriously bro? You love the England team? Must have drowned your sorrow with beers every 2 years during June.  tongue.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Totally agree. He's been solid all season. He still loses concentration on the defensive end at times though. But definitely improved from last season.
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Yup. England when it was under Gary Lineker, Paul Gasgoine, Bryan Robson, etc. Then the bunch of players like Fowler, Shearer, McManaman, Seaman, Stuart Pearce, etc provided so much excitement.

After that Owen, Beckham, Darren Anderton, Scholes, Sol Campbell, the all attacking combative full backs of Neville brothers and of course our Captain Gerrard under Kevin Keegan was just breathtaking but too bad the defense was crap.

Then Sven Goran Erikson came and England has been boring ever since barring the 5-1 Munich walkover. Of course the result improves but performance was close to yawning. England was even boring with Rooney and Co in the team. Sigh. Worse when under Fabio Capello. No more total football like the ones under Terry Venables, Glenn Hoddle and Kevin Keegan.

So many heartbreaking moments watching them just like how much i have suffered watching Liverpool. hehe. biggrin.gif
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I was watching last nite and imagine that England line up as a Liverpool current dream team
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I dont mind if we bid 30m for wilshere !
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I will mind if we spend that much on another centre midfielder. That is just pure madness.
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get 1 proven central defender with that money! flex.gif
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Just ONE player? Can buy 1 central defender, 1 winger and 1 goalkeeper with that kinda money. tongue.gif
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Just ONE player? Can buy 1 central defender, 1 winger and 1 goalkeeper with that kinda money.  tongue.gif
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What do you mean buy 3 players? Give me that money and I along with all the bros here can retire and spend full time watching Liverpool in Anfield. Hehe. Dont waste that money la. Give it to us Lowyat kakis better than buying a Jack Wilshere.

We got Hendo, Shelvey, Suso and Allen for the future. Enough la. Who can tell Jack Wilshere wont be Jackshit and Joe Allen wont be Joe "Xavi" Allen and Hendo perhaps, Jordan "Gerrard" Henderson?

Bottomline is, if they intend to waste more money, better to give to us. At least we will do Pom Pom dance in Anfield and make pretty banners to support them. biggrin.gif
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What do you mean buy 3 players? Give me that money and I along with all the bros here can retire and spend full time watching Liverpool in Anfield. Hehe. Dont waste that money la. Give it to us Lowyat kakis better than buying a Jack Wilshere.

We got Hendo, Shelvey, Suso and Allen for the future. Enough la. Who can tell Jack Wilshere wont be Jackshit and Joe Allen wont be Joe "Xavi" Allen and Hendo perhaps, Jordan "Gerrard" Henderson?

Bottomline is, if they intend to waste more money, better to give to us. At least we will do Pom Pom dance in Anfield and make pretty banners to support them. biggrin.gif
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You go ahead with that ya? I'll go Anfield to watch the match. I'll try to make some photos of you dancing tongue.gif If the club has that kinda money though, I'd still want them to invest. At least a goalkeeper, and a central defender. Reina might be leaving, old boy Carra's 35 already and Coates is not giving enough competition to Agger and Skrtel so far.
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better spend 5m on will hughes..he will become the next jack wilshere biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 7 2013, 03:42 PM)
You go ahead with that ya? I'll go Anfield to watch the match. I'll try to make some photos of you dancing  tongue.gif  If the club has that kinda money though, I'd still want them to invest. At least a goalkeeper, and a central defender. Reina might be leaving, old boy Carra's 35 already and Coates is not giving enough competition to Agger and Skrtel so far.
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He is not leaving. Prophet can speculate. You cant argue with him. hehehehe


So no need goalkeeper la. Defender maybe. But what will Coates do ler? No chance given to him to make amend? We got Kelly who can play in Centre role also. Carra will extend his contract la if he is needed. As for wing, we got Downing, Sterling, Couts and Assaidi. Enough ler. Even Johnson and Enrique can play as Wing if need be. No need waste money la.

Give me the money better. I invest in Properties and double the income for us. hehehehe tongue.gif
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Carra retire at the end of this season!
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Carra retire at the end of this season!
Legend!
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Don't know happy or sad...Happy coz some new player gonna come in..Sad coz none of our defenders has the organizational skills and leadership that he has..
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Prophetjul said Reina is committed to us tongue.gif
He is not leaving. Prophet can speculate. You cant argue with him. hehehehe
So no need goalkeeper la. Defender maybe. But what will Coates do ler? No chance given to him to make amend? We got Kelly who can play in Centre role also. Carra will extend his contract la if he is needed. As for wing, we got Downing, Sterling, Couts and Assaidi. Enough ler. Even Johnson and Enrique can play as Wing if need be. No need waste money la.

Give me the money better. I invest in Properties and double the income for us. hehehehe tongue.gif
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Talking behind me back?

You are also speculating matey......we dont know do we?
In fact i have never said he is noot leaving....all i ask is for some to give some respect.
And to question his attitude from 30,000 miles away? rolleyes.gif
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sad news, was hoping he gonna play few more seasons before call it a day...my guess is liverpool not offering him a new deal play a big part in his decision sad.gif
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QUOTE(saikuan @ Feb 7 2013, 08:52 PM)
Don't know happy or sad...Happy coz some new player gonna come in..Sad coz none of our defenders has the organizational skills and leadership that he has..
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His heroic act at istanbul will always be remembered! Hope he will stay as the defender coach at the club.
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Hope BR will hire Carra as defending coach and he will teach our boys how to defend properly
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Hope BR will hire Carra as defending coach and he will teach our boys how to defend properly
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Exactly what I was thinking. Because throughout his career a lot of people praised his intelligence and Gerrard also said he might be a Liverpool coach in the future.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 7 2013, 08:55 PM)
Talking behind me back?

You are also speculating matey......we dont know do we?
In fact i have never said he is noot leaving....all i ask is for some to give some respect.
And to question his attitude from 30,000 miles away?  rolleyes.gif
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Anyway, England got a good chance next year in World Cup 2014.
It's going to be so exciting to watch this line up. thumbup.gif

Walcott - - Rooney - - Sturridge

Parker - - Gerrard - - Wilshere

Cole-Terry-Lescott-Johnson

---------Joe Hart----------------

Wooo hooo.....World Cup winning potential biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 7 2013, 09:37 PM)
Anyway, England got a good chance next year in World Cup 2014.
It's going to be so exciting to watch this line up.  thumbup.gif

Walcott - - Rooney - - Sturridge

Parker - - Gerrard - - Wilshere

Cole-Terry-Lescott-Johnson

---------Joe Hart----------------

Wooo hooo.....World Cup winning potential biggrin.gif
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Highly doubt England will win World Cup or anything with Woy 1 Dimension Tactic

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'In line with Jamie's wishes we will wait until the season concludes before giving him the true recognition he deserves. We will also wait until that time to comment further regarding what involvement he may have with the club going forward.'

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He got a role after retiring I guess.
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Or, he'll be a pundit alongside his 'best friend' Gary Neville. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 7 2013, 09:40 PM)
He got a role after retiring I guess.
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HOLY CRAP! I just read this. Why? He is doing so well now and we need defenders. They got someone in mind already? That means Ash Williams is really coming I guess. We need a tough guy.
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#retire23 for Carra
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Feb 7 2013, 09:39 PM)
Highly doubt England will win World Cup or anything with Woy 1 Dimension Tactic
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retire that number.. he deserve it, a legend!
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Highly doubt England will win World Cup or anything with Woy 1 Dimension Tactic
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i'm curious as to which is the last england match u watched...
or are u just generalizing what woy will do based on what he did at LFC?
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i'm curious as to which is the last england match u watched...
or are u just generalizing what woy will do based on what he did at LFC?
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Sigh, Woy will never play my dream team in a 4-3-3 system.

He is most probably gonna do this:

---------rooney---------
--------Gerrard---------
Young-Barry-Wilshere-Milner
Cole-Terry-Lescott-Johnson
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Damn!
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"The Liver Bird mauled the three lions in the fight for my loyalties," said Carra.
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Sad and angry to see carra retire without a league winner medal.. hope it doesnt happen to gerrard..
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Aih sad to hear that Carra has announced his retirement. Especially when he's played so well in the last 2 games. Will miss the determination and passion he always showed on the pitch. Hope he stays as a coach and bring up future Carras into the team
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http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...ted-about-carra

Liked the last one most biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 7 2013, 09:37 PM)
Anyway, England got a good chance next year in World Cup 2014.
It's going to be so exciting to watch this line up.  thumbup.gif

Walcott - - Rooney - - Sturridge

Parker - - Gerrard - - Wilshere

Cole-Terry-Lescott-Johnson

---------Joe Hart----------------

Wooo hooo.....World Cup winning potential biggrin.gif
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I thought Terry already retired from internationals? If Baines continues his current form or he move to a bigger club, he will probably start ahead of Cole. Personally i prefer Baines more.. laugh.gif

Why you no put Hendo ahead of Parker?? He not good enough for your love? biggrin.gif
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I thought Terry already retired from internationals? If Baines continues his current form or he move to a bigger club, he will probably start ahead of Cole. Personally i prefer Baines more.. laugh.gif

Why you no put Hendo ahead of Parker?? He not good enough for your love? biggrin.gif
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Parker is my Lucas. I need a stopper there tongue.gif

JT retired? doh.gif Then the back line is screwed. Get Rio Ferdinand back man in that case. No Terry no cry. Hehe
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 8 2013, 12:52 AM)
Parker is my Lucas. I need a stopper there tongue.gif

JT retired?  doh.gif Then the back line is screwed. Get Rio Ferdinand back man in that case. No Terry no cry. Hehe
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Bro, u sure lack reading news on England team.


Google roy hodgson rio ferdinand laugh.gif
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Lol @ Dillon and his poor command of the English National team gossips.

Anyway...all these articles bout Carra made me wanna cry. YNWA..Carra23. Always a legend. notworthy.gif
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fck... carragher will retire since his contract wont be renewed. Still cant believe that the day when carragher wont be playing for liverpool will come.

No more vocal leader at the back.
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This also means Im getting old.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 8 2013, 12:55 AM)
Bro, u sure lack reading news on England team.
Google roy hodgson rio ferdinand  laugh.gif
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Uh? Rio didnt retire isnt it? Just that Hod didnt pick him because of Terry saga. Now no more Terry cannot get him back? tongue.gif

Then the centreback is not steady. Lescott and Cahill? So fragile.

Anyway, Carra retire makes me feel old as well. Same age as Carra. sad.gif
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#axzz2Jko7BGw6

Another good read on Carra #23
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Haha. Props, come on. That was a joke.  thumbup.gif
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Hey HAppy CNY to EVERYONE!


Including CARRA! thumbup.gif
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23 Carra Gold.

With Carra announcing his retirement, it would be the first time I've witnessed a Liverpool player begin and end his career at the club with my own eyes. The only other blokes I've seen do that is Neville and Scholes at the mancs.

Not everyone's cup of tea but Carra is no doubt a legend at the club. It's a pity though that his career seems shorter than it was given that he only really enjoyed stardom when he was shifted to centre back under Rafa Benitez regulalry in 2005. What happened in Instanbul was the stuff of legends and as much as we attribute our victory to Dudek, Gerrard, Smicer or Alonso, we need to recognise Carra's passionate display at the back. I will always remember his hobbling about with double cramps in his groin, refusing to give in and leave the team a man short. His played through the pain and agony because of his undying devotion to the club. When he broke his leg against Blackburn he had initially refused to come off believing that he was letting the team down. It was once said that is Steven Gerrard is the heart of Liverpool Football club then Jamie Carragher surely must be its soul.

Here's to my favourite player, Jamie Carragher. A model pro and a great bloke all round.
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Who can replace Carra ?

Who should BR buy to replace Carra ?

Can Coates step up ?

Any player from the Academy can step up ?


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Not many of thrown themselves into as many tackles and fewer still have launched themselves into legendary status. You Carra, are a legend.


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Who can replace Carra ?

Who should BR buy to replace Carra ?

Can Coates step up ?

Any player from the Academy can step up ?
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Rumor says it is gonna be Ash Williams, the Swans Captain. He is a tough nut but not sure about his pace.
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Rumor says it is gonna be Ash Williams, the Swans Captain. He is a tough nut but not sure about his pace.
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20 Million ?

Worth it ?
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Worth it ?
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What? 20 mil? Even 10 mil is too much. He's 29 isnt it?

Bah..Forget it. Get someone younger, tougher, faster, better looking and rougher than Roy Keane + Viera combined. tongue.gif
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I was hoping BR would be able to convince him from retiring..We got no leader at the back. I was also hoping he would be part of the coaching staff and who knows, maybe even the manager one day smile.gif
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Feb 8 2013, 10:21 AM)
I was hoping BR would be able to convince him from retiring..We got no leader at the back. I was also hoping he would be part of the coaching staff and who knows, maybe even the manager one day smile.gif
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Likewise. But I think he has waited for BR to find a solution before deciding. So my bet is, BR has identified the player he needed to replace Carra and that Carra can move on to coaching role now. He'll be an inspiration to all the youngsters. So perhaps starting with the youth setup will be good for us.
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Agger and Skrtel are good defenders.. but I don't think we'll ever find as good a defender as Carra and Hypia. Legends!
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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Feb 8 2013, 10:46 AM)
Agger and Skrtel are good defenders.. but I don't think we'll ever find as good a defender as Carra and Hypia. Legends!
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Skrtel and Agger no doubt were solid under Dalglish but Skrtel has been off form this season. I agree, Carra and Hyypia were consistent and have far better reading of the game. I think you can see what makes the old school players better than players of the modern age. They may not have pace but make up for it with positioning, reading of the game and timing their tackles.
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We must know that our defenders are use to hoofing the ball away just to clear the danger. But the problem with this is, it will invite another attack.

What BR wants is to keep the ball and re-organise our attack instead of giving the ball away. The catch is, if you are careless and not use to this style of play, you may end up giving the ball to opposition players in dangerous area.

Skrtel will definitely come back and defend better next season. It's always a rookie mistake in the 1st year
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What's sad is that people remember Carra in his twilight years, often forgetting how many times he's put his body on his line when he was at his best. Even after being relegated to the bench, he never complained and even when as far as to say that he'd retire the day he knew his presence will be detrimental to the club. I guess he's realised he's given it all he's could.
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unfortunately no league medal to retire with sad.gif
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Carra sad.gif(((

I still cant understand wut he saying till tday xD
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Carra sad.gif(((

I still cant understand wut he saying till tday xD
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I watched his full interview during a kid's programme and I cannot understand a single thing he says but I can understand the questions from the Kids. Totally scouse accent. LOL.
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Uh? Rio didnt retire isnt it? Just that Hod didnt pick him because of Terry saga. Now no more Terry cannot get him back? tongue.gif

Then the centreback is not steady. Lescott and Cahill? So fragile.

Anyway, Carra retire makes me feel old as well. Same age as Carra. sad.gif
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Seldom post in the thread much but damn, Carra is retiring. It is really a sad point (at least for me) if we don't win anything to conclude Carra's final season as a player.

Still, kudos and my utmost respect to him, YNWA!
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poor butland got tricked by pulis...seems hes not guaranteed first team football at stoke as pulis also wants to keep begovic.
maybe they should loan butland to us next season biggrin.gif

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Heard Martin Kelly signed a new contract today. Is it true?
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QUOTE(4ddict @ Feb 8 2013, 05:48 PM)
Not that the fight for justice was to get awards but the recognition is heart warming nonetheless. Liverpool fans, we never forget.

QUOTE(w_lun @ Feb 8 2013, 09:59 PM)
Heard Martin Kelly signed a new contract today. Is it true?
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Good news in light of Carra retiring. We need all the help we can get at the back. Kelly's Scouse so, the next Carra?

The more I think of it, the more it saddens me that our Carra is retiring. He's played in midfield, rightback, left back and centre back for us. Widely used as a utility player much like Steve Harkness albeit being on a totally different level. Still Carra would play wherever he was needed. Lost his place at rightback to Markus Babbel and found a slot at left back. Then he was under threat from John Arne Riise and it was then that he made the centre back position his own. Words can't describe what it feels like to see such an iconic player retire after witnessing his career from start to finish. Gutted.
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Another image from that evening showed Carragher in an ecstatic embrace with family and friends he’d spotted in the crowd. When Gerrard picked up the Champions League trophy and the ticker tape exploded like a red shower, Carragher was nowhere to be seen on the podium. He’d been struck down with more cramp. He should have been pictured holding that trophy alongside Gerrard, but was instead hidden in agony – the Liverpool legend unseen in the background.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...at-Anfield.html

It's been both an honour and a privilege to have witnessed Carra's career at the club. I can't agree more with this article. He's always gone about his job quietly, avoiding the bright lights and cameras. He's always had time for the fans. Shanklyesque I must say. There are lots of stories surrounding Istanbul but one which often escaped the mind is when Carra gave money to a fan who couldn't afford tickets. Carra is the kind of bloke which personifies what Bill Shankly thinks of a player. Ever willing to put his body on the line for the club, being a model professional and ever willing to spare some time for the fans. Carra is Liverpool through and through. The embodiment of a Liverpool type player. Not the most gifted talent wise, but second to none in terms of determination. Says a lot that the great Franco Baresi once rated him as one of the finest defenders in the world. One things for sure though, that Carra is one of the most under appreciated players around.

It was an absolute thrill to have seen him play in the flesh, commanding the line and barking instructions throughout. You can't tell on telly because of the commentary but Carra never stops talking!

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There was never any fuss with Carragher. He just played consistently well, fully committed, wherever a succession of managers asked him to. No fuss, no histrionics, no niggling calf and thigh strains causing the occasional absences. (Carragher refused to get on a stretcher when he broke his leg at Blackburn in 2003, wanted to play on with a dislocated shoulder in 2010 and, in 2007, played for several weeks with a punctured lung.)
He thinks it is embarrassing to miss a game through injury. From his early days he has baulked at the idea of being unavailable and been mortified by the prospect of having to receive treatment on the pitch.
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what a great servant carra is. yeah sometimes being a defender doesnt get much limelight as a goal scorer or a shot stopper.

For a player that featured in over 6(?) managers over the many years , omg carra ancient. (its not that we change managers like socks). i think his better years came under rafa.


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I wonder if sparks will fly when Carra meets Gary Neville in the commentator's room before Liv-Mu matches? lol.. Both 1-club-man, with good footballing brain..it's only a matter of time they both meet on the field again, but shouting from the dug-out...

Good to see Kelly committing long term. I see a Carra in him in terms of position. Looks good in CB when he plays there for the under-21.

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QUOTE(saikuan @ Feb 9 2013, 06:32 AM)
I wonder if sparks will fly when Carra meets Gary Neville in the commentator's room before Liv-Mu matches? lol.. Both 1-club-man, with good footballing brain..it's only a matter of time they both meet on the field again, but shouting from the dug-out...

Good to see Kelly committing long term. I see a Carra in him in terms of position. Looks good in CB when he plays there for the under-21.

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what a great servant carra is. yeah sometimes being a defender doesnt get much limelight as a goal scorer or a shot stopper.

For a player that featured in over 6(?) managers over the many years , omg carra ancient. (its not that we change managers like socks). i think his better years came under rafa.
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Deeply underrated. He was constantly overlooked for England as well despite being one of the better centrebacks in Europe when he was at the top of his game. I can understand that Rio Ferdinand and John Terry were selected ahead of him but there is no reason for him to come second to Jonathan Woodgate and Ledley King. Unfortunately for him he'll always have the distinction of scoring more own goals than for the club, despite being a striker when he was a young lad.
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Mostly - highly-rated defenders were judge not only on the basic defending, tackling, blocking etc...but also based on their elegance on the ball, whether they are comfortable ball player, how they marshall the defense and how they bring the ball out of defense..case in point - franz beckenbauer rated as the best defender and all time best german player - had the most elegant movement compare to the entire german team until today, the same with ferdinand and terry...as for carragher, he is more of hard head tough tackling type - bull/steve bruce type...sorry for lack of example to quote...as such when woodgates came into the pic..he is highly rated not because is keeps the defense water tight, but his effortless on the ball..so is ledley king...altho i must say King is really good if not for his flimsy knee,,perhaps if sol campbell,,,then i would agree..carra is better...probably his robust approach, no-nonsense clearance, and typical street-fighter style tend to be overlook for more elegant and stylized defenders...not being able to deal with drogba is also another issue being put under the microscope
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Sometimes I was wondering, this season the United team is having one of the worst
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Its really annoying actually... We only conceded a goal more than them (32 goals
against Liverpool, 31 goals against United) this season. Bloody hell!! I believe Skrtel-
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they are still at the top of the league... While City record is really-really impressive,
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QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Feb 9 2013, 06:21 PM)
Sometimes I was wondering, this season the United team is having one of the worst
and shit defensive line in the last decade while they are still at the top of the league...
Its really annoying actually... We only conceded a goal more than them (32 goals
against Liverpool, 31 goals against United) this season. Bloody hell!! I believe Skrtel-
Agger partnership if not better are just the same par as United CBs strength. And yes,
they are still at the top of the league... While City record is really-really impressive,
ONLY 21 goals against them. One of the best defensive line in the league currently.
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Feb 9 2013, 05:49 PM)
Mostly - highly-rated defenders were judge not only on the basic defending, tackling, blocking etc...but also based on their elegance on the ball, whether they are comfortable ball player, how they marshall the defense and how they bring the ball out of defense..case in point - franz beckenbauer rated as the best defender and all time best german player - had the most elegant movement compare to the entire german team until today, the same with ferdinand and terry...as for carragher, he is more of hard head tough tackling type - bull/steve bruce type...sorry for lack of example to quote...as such when woodgates came into the pic..he is highly rated not because is keeps the defense water tight, but his effortless on the ball..so is ledley king...altho i must say King is really good if not for his flimsy knee,,perhaps if sol campbell,,,then i would agree..carra is better...probably his robust approach, no-nonsense clearance, and typical street-fighter style tend to be overlook for more elegant and stylized defenders...not being able to deal with drogba is also another issue being put under the microscope
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Still a player is picked on current form and at the time, Carra was fully fit and consistently playing against some of the best strikers in Europe. Andriy Shevchenko certainly fits the bill. Ledley King was selected ahead of Carra even when he wasn't 100% which he seldom was. If England's managers opted for more elegant defenders, what was John Terry doing in the side? It was said that he and Carra were too similar to play together.

It isn't that Carra didn't get any recognition at all. He still has England caps. If it were merely because he isn't as elegant on the ball, he wouldn't have gotten any caps at all. Many of his caps were earned playing in midfield, at rightback and sometimes, at leftback.

How many defenders can actually cope with Drogba's physicality? Even a bruiser like Skrtel gets pushed around every now and then. Players have physical limitations. Michael Owen once sprinted past Roberto Ayala to score in the World Cup but that doesn't make the Argentenian a bad defender.
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dont forget city currently have 11 clean sheets biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(saikuan @ Feb 9 2013, 02:32 PM)
I wonder if sparks will fly when Carra meets Gary Neville in the commentator's room before Liv-Mu matches? lol.. Both 1-club-man, with good footballing brain..it's only a matter of time they both meet on the field again, but shouting from the dug-out...

Good to see Kelly committing long term. I see a Carra in him in terms of position. Looks good in CB when he plays there for the under-21.

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I hope Wisdom will step up one day. He is young and might be the
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those big boys are here. His physical is good but sometimes,
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forgot which LFC player who jokingly said Wisdom is only in the squad cos Kelly is injured...think it was carra who said it.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 9 2013, 06:47 PM)
Still a player is picked on current form and at the time, Carra was fully fit and consistently playing against some of the best strikers in Europe. Andriy Shevchenko certainly fits the bill. Ledley King was selected ahead of Carra even when he wasn't 100% which he seldom was. If England's managers opted for more elegant defenders, what was John Terry doing in the side? It was said that he and Carra were too similar to play together.

It isn't that Carra didn't get any recognition at all. He still has England caps. If it were merely because he isn't as elegant on the ball, he wouldn't have gotten any caps at all. Many of his caps were earned playing in midfield, at rightback and sometimes, at leftback.

How many defenders can actually cope with Drogba's physicality? Even a bruiser like Skrtel gets pushed around every now and then. Players have physical limitations. Michael Owen once sprinted past Roberto Ayala to score in the World Cup but that doesn't make the Argentenian a bad defender.
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As you pointed out, yes he is a genuine and full fledge England national..but i remember during that time, Carra never really established himself as a regular CB...well all i can say is probably because of player power..can still remember that liverpool player alwiz being seconded by players from the more glamorous clubs such as SUCM and chelsea. Even gerard's place is not certain due to a certain player currently not offered contract extension - Lampard, also there was suggestion that Stevie G cannot play with Lampar in the middle as such he was move to left flank by England...that action itself reveals political power - that Stevie have to make way, dont u think? And this also got me all riled up - remember that a certain sicknote Parker being promoted the skipper for England - I am the 1st to condemn the decision, out of nowhere Parker got the captaincy ahead of Stevie G - a decison by a psycho..which was preposterous and lack respect..and i alwiz joke that England have more captains than matchwinner.

Also football is a game made up of many individual, as with team, association, organization - there will be politics -players well connected, self appointed leader of the pack, or social circle leader may got ahead of others - altho not necessary make football sense - its due to connection, and the more recognized you are as leader of the pack, managers tend to pick these ppl...i think only Stevie G nestablished himself as a leader who walk the talk, both his football and private life are all about football.

Well, u r right, Owen swivel past Ayala as if he is not there and unleash a well place shot on top corner...but the sad facts is Carra was exposed every time he plays Drogba,,every single match against Drog is a nightmare - probably that dented his image i guess...ohh i can still remember very well - Drogba scored quite a few when is back is against Carra, he is allowed to turn and shot,,that is a cardinal sin in defending, especially when within 18 yards, u dont let em turn..
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You are from Ipoh? Im from Ipoh, brother... Rapat Setia / Desa Perwira.
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Hope its going to be full of Anfield creatures one day. Haha...
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Feb 9 2013, 09:05 PM)
As you pointed out, yes he is a genuine and full fledge England national..but i remember during that time, Carra never really established himself as a regular CB...well all i can say is probably because of player power..can still remember that liverpool player alwiz being seconded by players from the more glamorous clubs such as SUCM and chelsea. Even gerard's place is not certain due to a certain player currently not offered contract extension - Lampard, also there was suggestion that Stevie G cannot play with Lampar in the middle as such he was move to left flank by England...that action itself reveals political power - that Stevie have to make way, dont u think? And this also got me all riled up - remember that a certain sicknote Parker being promoted the skipper for England - I am the 1st to condemn the decision, out of nowhere Parker got the captaincy ahead of Stevie G - a decison by a psycho..which was preposterous and lack respect..and i alwiz joke that England have more captains than matchwinner.

Also football is a game made up of many individual, as with team, association, organization - there will be politics -players well connected, self appointed leader of the pack, or social circle leader may got ahead of others - altho not necessary make football sense - its due to connection, and the more recognized you are as leader of the pack, managers tend to pick these ppl...i think only Stevie G nestablished himself as a leader who walk the talk, both his football and private life are all about football.

Well, u r right, Owen swivel past Ayala as if he is not there and unleash a well place shot on top corner...but the sad facts is Carra was exposed every time he plays Drogba,,every single match against Drog is a nightmare - probably that dented his image i guess...ohh i can still remember very well - Drogba scored quite a few when is back is against Carra, he is allowed to turn and shot,,that is a cardinal sin in defending, especially when within 18 yards, u dont let em turn..
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I remember reading Robbie Fowler's biography and in it, he mentioned how players in the England setup today hang out in groups like what you've suggested. Player power is definitely a very real thing. I was gutted too when Gerrard was overlooked for the captaincy in favour of Parker. I never understood why Gerrard was moved to the left just to accommodate Lampard. Gerrard is clearly the more complete player and was at his peak of his prowess at the time, often carrying the team on his own. Lampard on the other hand was surrounded by superstars. If anything I think it was because Lampard wasn't flexible enough to play anywhere else. He can't defend and he doesn't have the pace to play on the wings. Therefore Stevie, being the versatile player that he is, had to move over.

Carra was arguably England's best defender in 2005 at least. He was at the pinnacle of his form but even then he couldn't land an England spot, playing regularly at CB. I don't see why England couldn't play 3 at the back with Rio as sweeper for example. In any case, England's loss was our gain as he was often fit for us and fresher than those who had to go away on international duty.

As for struggling against Drogba, he did but then again which defenders today don't struggle against Van Persie or Suarez? Drogba in his element, was a beast.
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Absolutely stupid headline.
Liverpool ace blasts Rodgers’ comments

Again the media took it out of context and try to make a big fuss out of it to sell story. Sometimes our players should just stop talking to them. Stop giving interviews to unworthy news reporters. Just stick to Liverpool official reporters and perhaps Liverpool Echo.

http://www.touchlinetalk.com/liverpool-ace...comments/29966/?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 9 2013, 10:21 PM)
I remember reading Robbie Fowler's biography and in it, he mentioned how players in the England setup today hang out in groups like what you've suggested. Player power is definitely a very real thing. I was gutted too when Gerrard was overlooked for the captaincy in favour of Parker. I never understood why Gerrard was moved to the left just to accommodate Lampard. Gerrard is clearly the more complete player and was at his peak of his prowess at the time, often carrying the team on his own. Lampard on the other hand was surrounded by superstars. If anything I think it was because Lampard wasn't flexible enough to play anywhere else. He can't defend and he doesn't have the pace to play on the wings. Therefore Stevie, being the versatile player that he is, had to move over.

Carra was arguably England's best defender in 2005 at least. He was at the pinnacle of his form but even then he couldn't land an England spot, playing regularly at CB. I don't see why England couldn't play 3 at the back with Rio as sweeper for example. In any case, England's loss was our gain as he was often fit for us and fresher than those who had to go away on international duty.

As for struggling against Drogba, he did but then again which defenders today don't struggle against Van Persie or Suarez? Drogba in his element, was a beast.
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Well i dont read any biography..as yet...but did read somewhere from the paper that Rio fernand is the master of keeping everyone together @Sucm, he is the 1st to pull a party, go for drink, post match celebration, informal teamtalk, treating everyone for special occasion - thats the reason why he is such valued by rednose and also the captain, i suppose being the leader of the pack, u need someone to connect and communicate whether formally or informally...

U r spot on- lampar is both inflexible and cannot tackle, and this reason why Stevie was push down either as deep lying midfield or shove to the left on the flank -which hardly helps England's cause - as Stevie can hardly influence the game.

AS for carra, i think its a tribute to a legend and time to move on -wouldnt mind he stay for another season as cover for 1st team,,but that will be asking too much..ohhh btw, houllier left me puzzled why he never move him into CB during his time as LB -its plain to me that he should be rightfully be the CB for liverpool..playing too many positions may compromise his actual potential - this is the assumption i made..anyway
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Guys, issit monday 4am or tuesday 4am? Conpius la..

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 10 2013, 04:29 PM)
Absolutely stupid headline.
Liverpool ace blasts Rodgers’ comments

Again the media took it out of context and try to make a big fuss out of it to sell story. Sometimes our players should just stop talking to them. Stop giving interviews to unworthy news reporters. Just stick to Liverpool official reporters and perhaps Liverpool Echo.

http://www.touchlinetalk.com/liverpool-ace...comments/29966/?
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Rodgers is a straight talker and isn't afraid to lay into the players. Raheem Sterling was one of the first to find that out. Rodgers has been questioning the commitment of some of the players but there's no point in sugar coating it. What he says in the dressing room, I'll have no idea but I do know that he isn't afford to voice his honest opinion to the media. On the flip side, he's also shown that he'll back the players when they come under attack from the media, like he did with Luis Suarez. Rodgers may not mince his words when asked what he thinks and he may be critical but he will also defend the lads like he did with Suarez and Allen.

QUOTE(markblurberry @ Feb 10 2013, 05:17 PM)
Well i dont read any biography..as yet...but did read somewhere from the paper that Rio fernand is the master of keeping everyone together @Sucm, he is the 1st to pull a party, go for drink, post match celebration, informal teamtalk, treating everyone for special occasion - thats the reason why he is such valued by rednose and also the captain, i suppose being the leader of the pack, u need someone to connect and communicate whether formally or informally...

U r spot on- lampar is both inflexible and cannot tackle, and this reason why Stevie was push down either as deep lying midfield or shove to the left on the flank -which hardly helps England's cause - as Stevie can hardly influence the game.

AS for carra, i think its a tribute to a legend and time to move on -wouldnt mind he stay for another season as cover for 1st team,,but that will be asking too much..ohhh btw, houllier left me puzzled why he never move him into CB during his time as LB -its plain to me that he should be rightfully be the CB for liverpool..playing too many positions may compromise his actual potential - this is the assumption i made..anyway
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Basically what Fowler said was that in the past, training was as much a social event as it was one which encouraged productivity. Players would share light hearted banter and the lads would have a laugh and enjoy themselves. This forged a healthy relationship between them. This was especially true when gaffers like Bobby Robson and Glenn Hoddle were in charge. Under continental managers like Sven Goran Ericksson and Fabio Capello however, players were told to take sessions seriously. They began to hang out in their own groups.

I agree it's time for Carra to move on. Staying another season would not have hurt though given that even Coates has dropped behind him in the pecking order. He's done well to bounce back and be included in the squads against Arsenal and City. With Kelly back next season, it would not hurt to have Carra on the bench and in the dressing room, passing on a word of advice or two. Really hope to see him in a coaching capacity and perhaps someday, in the dugout as gaffer. Would be a throwback to the old bootroom tradition.

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It's Kenny's team: Liverpool form proving that Dalglish was right after all says former assistant Clarke

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...baggies-1680237
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So you wonder why even Morgan makes into the bench and not Assaidi....




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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...baggies-1680237
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Found few videos that worth sharing....


Can notice that Suarez actually scored many spectacular chip goals.


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Suarez , StevieG and Sturridge to score in tomorrow's morning match and avenge our defeat to WBA .

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...y-KloAgger.html

sometimes "flushing your money down the toilet" (as one of the comments put it) may be a good idea
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off topic but...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...y-KloAgger.html

sometimes "flushing your money down the toilet" (as one of the comments put it) may be a good idea
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Ligament woe sees Kop youngster Yesil sidelined for rest of the season

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QUOTE(kunimitsu @ Feb 11 2013, 10:52 PM)
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Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Suarez, Shelvey, Downing. Subs: Jones, Wisdom, Skrtel, Allen, Borini, Sterling, Coutinho.
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Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Suarez, Shelvey, Downing. Subs: Jones, Wisdom, Skrtel, Allen, Borini, Sterling, Coutinho.
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40 mins to go.

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did anyone notice suarez didn't touch the TIA sign on the way out? its another omen...
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our passing not quite good enough in this 1st 10 min..

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Fuh, nice skill by Suarez
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Enrique misplaced a lot of passes.
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a lot pass, but not many clear chances. why la sturridge didnt play.
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problem with the team now is too much possession. you heard me right, too much possession and the team feels comfortable knowing there's still a second half to pass the ball around.

what the team lacks is a sense of urgency. a desire to beat the shit out of west brom.
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a lot pass, but not many clear chances. why la sturridge didnt play.
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injured.

we need more penetration from the left side.so many ppl in the middle for what?shelvey is like a headless chicken running around
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Stur got thigh strain. Down down is playing well. Brom only defending and not playing football.
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Sterling should replace Hendo or Botak, we need to attack from the Left
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Feb 12 2013, 04:52 AM)
problem with the team now is too much possession. you heard me right, too much possession and the team feels comfortable knowing there's still a second half to pass the ball around.

what the team lacks is a sense of urgency. a desire to beat the shit out of west brom.
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However our conversion rate is 0%

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toothless because suarez is constantly wide and no one is attacking the middle when suarez is wide.
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Can Inho make a difference if he replace Lucas ?
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injured.

we need more penetration from the left side.so many ppl in the middle for what?shelvey is like a headless chicken running around
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minor injury is it?

midfield is so freaking full and pack while we have no one at the top, all i can see, they are waiting for Suarez to do some magic.


ok lets go 2nd half. come on Coutinho. show em your skill.
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need to utilise the chances more
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WBA 0 chances? Our we really that bad? Coz we have like 12 shots but only 4 on target and 0 goals...

WBA could suckerpunch us
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Lukaku aka Drogba is here....physical player...be very very carful. He scored last meeting rite?
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penalty infront of d kop. gerrard pls
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10 min to rescue a point
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This is terribly disappointing. Unlucky or stupid? Lost for words
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like this dont need to wait whole weekend, wake up in 4 am.. like this..
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hahahaahah see what i said.. suckerpunched...

how many times we always attack but cant score and end up losing?

so fed up!
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Red no. 8 not so lucky
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looks like same story as our first game this season. I don't think gerrard penalty was weak.
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Abysmal defending, waste people time watching
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lack of concentration from him or tired from international duties..sigh
once again, our defender fail at defending set piece...
YNWA guys, time to sleep
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what is the point of having 99% possession???????
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unlucky but also poor finishing. foster is a wall today. sorely missed sturridge i have to say.
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Usual banana skin match....opposition in poor form? Can't win in ages? Welcome to smash and grab against Pool then.....sigh.
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post Feb 12 2013, 05:52 AM

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same old pre-sturridge performance.
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Sturridge is missed. Bye Suarez
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Usual banana skin match....opposition in poor form? Can't win in ages? Welcome to smash and grab against Pool then.....sigh.
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Lol-Ed at this scoreline after seeing the match fact... Full control of the possession yet can't score shit... We miss Sturridge Suarez partnership today...
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same old script different opponent.

the furious part is when seeing this
liverpool goal attempts 24,convert none
WBA goal attempts 4 convert 2
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credit to godlike mode foster.

Cautinho has little actions today.



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nitez guys..hope its just a one off.
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Soooo hapy play very well and get 2-2 draw 2 times in a row with a "bigs" team. Hoping for a full point in the next fixture, and then...thiss...happen....

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Enrique can go f*** off... It show previously all his pass etc was fluke.
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Soft penalty given I would say... Steve Clark a genius to put in lukaku in the final stage of the match...
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Feb 12 2013, 05:53 AM)
we are very generous towards struggling teams.
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Generous is an understatement now...routinely wheel out the 3 points to any team that's in poor form coming in. I'm more surprised when we actually win! blush.gif
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Too much fake hopes. Now we can throw in the towel. It's no chance for top 4.

It's freaking hard to be positive at this moment. Sorry boys. I lost it. I am usually calm but a draw would have been disappointing. A lost at home? In anfield? That is pathetic!

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maybe Suarez wasnt the only player to not touch the TIA sign...
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I think we thoroughly deserved the lost.

We lack the cutting edge from our play and even got a soft penalty saved. I'm disappointed though, but we could see it coming as we clearly miss Sturridge qualities to open up defences.
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I don't understand football anymore.. We had so many chances.. And a penalty.

Football is almost like a lottery now.

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can someone tell me what is it in borini that br have so much faith in him?

nvr really understand the decision to get him. not when he is in kuyt's role. certainly not when he play as striker. he is invisible!
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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Feb 12 2013, 06:07 AM)
I don't understand football anymore.. We had so many chances.. And a penalty.

Football is almost like a lottery now.
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u r so wrong. with other teams they would slot it in and get 3 points. only with liverpool it is a lottery
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I'm still confused by BR first pair of subs...taking off both hendo n jonjo for borini n sterling...and which pushed downing into a weird position which he wasnt as effective in...making the team also look weird...
wasnt a surprise that downing went off later for coutinho...
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I think we can just say "Fcuk top 4!!" now..

Fcuk Europe!
Fcuk international friendlies!

Sorry..
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Feb 12 2013, 06:02 AM)
I think we thoroughly deserved the lost.

We lack the cutting edge from our play and even got a soft penalty saved. I'm disappointed though, but we could see it coming as we clearly miss Sturridge qualities to open up defences.
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Yup..thoroughly deserved. if you cannot finish off chances and missed a penalty (one not correctly given anyway), and cant overturn a 1-0 deficit at home, i dont think we deserve anything out of the match. Im saying this purely because we never learn from past mistakes...so rightly served.

Im not even surprised anymore..just disappointed. Our squad and manager looked naive today. Steve Clarke obviously outsmarted BR in every aspect. Can even leave his best player on the bench only to come in and seal the win. truly facepalm moment. Clarke and his continuing personal vendetta against LFC and the owners.

But its good to see the players trying to play attacking football today and sticking to the plan. Just awful finishing again. Im beginning to doubt Borini and what he brings to the team. Not a good debut for Coutinho as he was thrown into this match. Hope to see more of him. Trying to find some positivity here. sad.gif
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Reina,Agger,Skrtel need sacking... totally average and caused the team point
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Things changed for the worse everytime BR subs
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Feb 12 2013, 06:14 AM)
Yup..thoroughly deserved. if you cannot finish off chances and missed a penalty (one not correctly given anyway), and cant overturn a 1-0 deficit at home, i dont think we deserve anything out of the match. Im saying this purely because we never learn from past mistakes...so rightly served.

Im not even surprised anymore..just disappointed. Our squad and manager looked naive today. Steve Clarke obviously outsmarted BR in every aspect. Can even leave his best player on the bench only to come in and seal the win. truly facepalm moment. Clarke and his continuing personal vendetta against LFC and the owners.

But its good to see the players trying to play attacking football today and sticking to the plan. Just awful finishing again. Im beginning to doubt Borini and what he brings to the team. Not a good debut for Coutinho as he was thrown into this match. Hope to see more of him. Trying to find some positivity here. sad.gif
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positive is we play gud kiki lala. But lost all composure as we get to the final third.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 12 2013, 06:16 AM)
Reina,Agger,Skrtel need sacking... totally average and caused the team point
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Lol..can they even be sacked? looks like a good option now.
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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Feb 12 2013, 06:07 AM)
I don't understand football anymore.. We had so many chances.. And a penalty.

Football is almost like a lottery now.
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Likewise. Football is rich men laughing (bookies) and fools like us drowning in our sorrows. Can't sleep now. Too disgusted to sleep.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 12 2013, 06:20 AM)
Likewise. Football is rich men laughing (bookies) and fools like us drowning in our sorrows. Can't sleep now. Too disgusted to sleep.
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i feel you..i want to sleep but cant so i'll keep trolling this thread.
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i feel you..i want to sleep but cant so i'll keep trolling this thread.
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You know sometimes I don't feel like watching. Feel like I jinx the team. But it's hard to stay away from the TV when I love Liverpool so much. Damn. This is like GF breaking up kind of disappointment.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 12 2013, 06:24 AM)
You know sometimes I don't feel like watching. Feel like I jinx the team. But it's hard to stay away from the TV when I love Liverpool so much. Damn. This is like GF breaking up kind of disappointment.
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Commentator already said before, Liv has not beat any team that in the top half of the table since the season start, and WBA is at top half. This record still intact.
WBA won 3-0 in the early season, then win 2-0 again.

Sometimes, I just hope BR never said about chasing top 4 finish, remember last time of statement can catch 2nd spot? doh.gif

Oh, no, next PL match is against Swansea, a 7th place team...
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Were we even playing good in the first 80 mins?
2 goals in 10 mins. Smh..
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 12 2013, 07:15 AM)
Commentator already said before, Liv has not beat any team that in the top half of the table since the season start, and WBA is at top half. This record still intact.
WBA won 3-0 in the early season, then win 2-0 again.

Sometimes, I just hope BR never said about chasing top 4 finish, remember last time of statement can catch 2nd spot?  doh.gif

Oh, no, next PL match is against Swansea, a 7th place team...
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The only cheerful thing was at half time when God and John Bishop did the blind folded penalty kick. God took the ball away from Bishop and he basically kick the air and fell. That was absolutely funny. God is really the king of pranksters. LOL. biggrin.gif

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This result of this game literally took the pressure off us for fighting for 4th spot from now onwards............ whistling.gif whistling.gif


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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 12 2013, 09:46 AM)
The only cheerful thing was at half time when God and John Bishop did the blind folded penalty kick. God took  the ball away from Bishop and he basically kick the air and fell. That was absolutely funny. God is really the king of pranksters. LOL. biggrin.gif
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Ya la but i didnt expect Gerrard to do similar penalty joke!!
imagine how its gonna be if Stevies penalty was in and we were to lose 2-1. I terjun lombong liao!!
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Feb 12 2013, 10:04 AM)
Wow Makan telur again ... Fantastic team.
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we played good football. But no final touches and bolos.
We had more corners, freekicks n shots on target but its the conversion rate again. Plus i think d big factor we missing Sturridge already.

Its really testing to be a Liverpool fan u know lol
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Ya la but i didnt expect Gerrard to do similar penalty joke!!
imagine how its gonna be if Stevies penalty was in and we were to lose 2-1. I terjun lombong liao!!
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It really does get to me when the opinions of fans sway along with the wind. When the team wins, they're great. When they lose, they're shite. Yes, it's tiring to hear of us dominating and yet losing but we can at least get behind the lads for making an effort. Gerrard's penalty was what? our 19th attempt on goal? In total we had 25 shots on goal to their 5 and we dominated possession. Yea it sucks losing in the end but it isn't like we rolled over and played dead.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 10:57 AM)
It really does get to me when the opinions of fans sway along with the wind. When the team wins, they're great. When they lose, they're shite. Yes, it's tiring to hear of us dominating and yet losing but we can at least get behind the lads for making an effort. Gerrard's penalty was what? our 19th attempt on goal? In total we had 25 shots on goal to their 5 and we dominated possession. Yea it sucks losing in the end but it isn't like we rolled over and played dead.

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It's not an opinion, Bro. Just a wind of frustration. I can understand them. Everyone vents their frustration but they dont mean to lose it. I lost it as well seeing the manner we went down. The manager says it all, the boys gave their all but didnt get the result.

Like I said, 2 days in heaven, 1 day in hell. It's hard when you are optimistic after seeing such strong performances and then suddenly fell in the manner we did.

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It was a devastating and moral shattering loss. I can understand fans who felt let down by the performance i.e. dominating but ended up getting nothing out of it. Very hard to stomach indeed..happened too many times. Its like we never learned.

But still there are positives. Hendo continuing his fine form..Lucas was a beast all round winning tackles all over the pitch. Coutinho get a taste of epl. Sadly Enrique was rusty, and the defence once again let us down..agger reina n even jonson disappoint.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 12 2013, 11:03 AM)
It's not an opinion, Bro. Just a wind of frustration. I can understand them. Everyone vents their frustration but they dont mean to lose it. I lost it as well seeing the manner we went down. The manager says it all, the boys gave their all but didnt get the result.

Like I said, 2 days in heaven, 1 day in hell. It's hard when you are optimistic after seeing such strong performances and then suddenly fell in the manner we did.
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Feeling let down? Of course. We all feel disappointment but when you read comments like, "Reina out! Skrtel!", it's frustrating and unbecoming of Liverpool fans who are known to be amongst the most passionate and loyal. Yes, I believe we all have a reputation to live up to.
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Lets take the positives from this loss ~ we lost our head when Sturridge was not playing, ~ Agger was the cost of our loss , he missed 2 good chances to scored and did not defended well to prevent the 2 goals . The same thing felled to Suarez which squandered a few chances. Gerrard did not scored but that was not a clear Penalty for us , so its fair. But the goal by Shelvey should have been counted.

BR must have pissed seeing our players sucks.


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 10:57 AM)
It really does get to me when the opinions of fans sway along with the wind. When the team wins, they're great. When they lose, they're shite. Yes, it's tiring to hear of us dominating and yet losing but we can at least get behind the lads for making an effort. Gerrard's penalty was what? our 19th attempt on goal? In total we had 25 shots on goal to their 5 and we dominated possession. Yea it sucks losing in the end but it isn't like we rolled over and played dead.

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this is a forum and fans got frustrated sometimes. normal post match reaction.. so it shouldn't be a surprised when they moan when we are losing. let them be.. when they moan its not because of they are a lesser fan than you... just a mere heat of the moment kinda thing. liverpool fans known some of the most passionate lot is somewhat explains it all, innit? there's boo from the kop as well.. they'll come to their senses soon enough.

we controlled the game but its not a good one either. most of the player went missing.. the baggies come with a plan and take full advantages of the luck. unlike us who yet again seem to lost it in front of the goal. only if gerrard scored that penalty, it would be a different game.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Feb 12 2013, 11:48 AM)
this is a forum and fans got frustrated sometimes. normal post match reaction.. so it shouldn't be a surprised when they moan when we are losing. let them be.. when they moan its not because of they are a lesser fan than you... just a mere heat of the moment kinda thing. liverpool fans known some of the most passionate lot is somewhat explains it all, innit? there's boo from the kop as well.. they'll come to their senses soon enough.

we controlled the game but its not a good one either. most of the player went missing.. the baggies come with a plan and take full advantages of the luck. unlike us who yet again seem to lost it in front of the goal. only if gerrard scored that penalty, it would be a different game.
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Nothing wrong in venting frustration but like I said in my previous post, calling for players to be sold after a bad result is uncalled for. Also, an opinion on the team should be consistent over the course of a season. Insinuations that the team sucks one week, and claims that we are back when we win the next week isn't exactly a model of consistency. Yes, sections of Anfield do boo these days but if you look at .tv or RAWK, fans do voice their disappointment that it happens. Some fans also left during half-time in Istanbul. It isn't about being a bigger or lesser fan. It's about practicing the values that the club is built on. Just because some people don't recycle for example, it doesn't mean we shouldn't.
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Great performance by the boys,really proud of them, only thing missing are points. As long as the team play beautiful football win or loose doesnt matter

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 10:57 AM)
It really does get to me when the opinions of fans sway along with the wind. When the team wins, they're great. When they lose, they're shite. Yes, it's tiring to hear of us dominating and yet losing but we can at least get behind the lads for making an effort. Gerrard's penalty was what? our 19th attempt on goal? In total we had 25 shots on goal to their 5 and we dominated possession. Yea it sucks losing in the end but it isn't like we rolled over and played dead.

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Wrong. 25 shots, ONLY 7 shots on goal to 5 shots with 3 shots on goal from WBA. We were very poor on the final third, Johnson were atrocious, Downing was well shit as usual, Shelvey and Henderson average. We deserved to lose.

No one can say otherwise.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 11:18 AM)
Feeling let down? Of course. We all feel disappointment but when you read comments like, "Reina out! Skrtel!", it's frustrating and unbecoming of Liverpool fans who are known to be amongst the most passionate and loyal. Yes, I believe we all have a reputation to live up to.
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Dont get me wrong bro...m always behind the team regardless. But a spade is a spade. We hafta be honest abt it. Im vry happy abt the way we play. Im just not happy with pur luck...altho the saying goes 'you make your own luck', vry little of dat can be applied to us. We tried all...too bad Sturridge was out. As long as we r playing ur hearts out, or not, im always be with them....coz its the Liverpool Way. Otherwise ill be long gone. But we r all still here.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 12 2013, 06:09 AM)
I'm still confused by BR first pair of subs...taking off both hendo n jonjo for borini n sterling...and which pushed downing into a weird position which he wasnt as effective in...making the team also look weird...
wasnt a surprise that downing went off later for coutinho...
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i agree with u..the substitution really lower the momentum...we look like score & then BR sub henderson & jonjo out...borini really look like a championship player
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QUOTE(Glockers @ Feb 12 2013, 01:12 PM)
Wrong. 25 shots, ONLY 7 shots on goal to 5 shots with 3 shots on goal from WBA. We were very poor on the final third, Johnson were atrocious, Downing was well shit as usual, Shelvey and Henderson average. We deserved to lose.

No one can say otherwise.
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Really? Shots on goal are not shots on target. If we don't shoot at the goal, what else are we aiming for. It's 25 shots on goal, with 5 on target.


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when too many said we can win then we'll probably lose
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This bloke shared a very different opinion on Downing.

http://www.goal.com/en-au/match/81091/live.../player-ratings
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 02:13 PM)
Really? Shots on goal are not shots on target. If we don't shoot at the goal, what else are we aiming for. It's 25 shots on goal, with 5 on target.
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Shots on goal = Shot on target. Out of 25 shots, ONLY 7 on target. So the balance of the shots could be aiming elsewhere and for sure not on goal/target.

I repeat. It was 25 shots with 7 on target. Go argue with OPTA or Soccernet.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 02:15 PM)
This bloke shared a very different opinion on Downing.

http://www.goal.com/en-au/match/81091/live.../player-ratings
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That bloke is a moron.
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QUOTE(Glockers @ Feb 12 2013, 02:19 PM)
Shots on goal = Shot on target. Out of 25 shots, ONLY 7 on target. So the balance of the shots could be aiming elsewhere and for sure not on goal/target.

I repeat. It was 25 shots with 7 on target. Go argue with OPTA or Soccernet.
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The term "shots" and "on target" are used. If players don't shoot for goal, what else are they shooting at? The corner flag? A shot in this sense is quite obviously a shot on goal and not as fan, or the poor cameraman behind the goal.

In any case, I don't think there is confusion over what 25(7) means. Semantics.
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QUOTE(Glockers @ Feb 12 2013, 02:20 PM)
That bloke is a moron.
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both gerrard and johnson had a bad game..
the only 1 that make me happy last night is watching lucas almost getting his form back.. tackling and chasing the ball to cover the back four..

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I prefer to look at the positive.

If there is anything I would be happy about, it's the performance of Lucas, henderson and Downing.

Lucas, especially, looked like a possessed man. He won so many balls back for the team, doing all those ugly tricks he good at.

In the first half, around 20+ minutes, he won the ball from a tackle that went over to Suarez. That reminds me of Mascherano's sliding tackle in the reading game that Torres scored from the sliding tackle pass.


Hendo is unlucky not to score his 3rd goal in 3 games when Foster made that save. Downing was good, beating players around and also helping out Glenny who was so piss poor last nite.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 11:18 AM)
Feeling let down? Of course. We all feel disappointment but when you read comments like, "Reina out! Skrtel!", it's frustrating and unbecoming of Liverpool fans who are known to be amongst the most passionate and loyal. Yes, I believe we all have a reputation to live up to.
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I guess I am more annoyed with calls for "BR out". Players can win you games, but manager can win you trophies. But not all fans are perfect. They were just annoyed. Go easy with them bro. They will come to senses again when they cool down.
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QUOTE(Glockers @ Feb 12 2013, 02:19 PM)
Shots on goal = Shot on target. Out of 25 shots, ONLY 7 on target. So the balance of the shots could be aiming elsewhere and for sure not on goal/target.

I repeat. It was 25 shots with 7 on target. Go argue with OPTA or Soccernet.
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Thought about it a little. Maybe the term, "a shot at goal" is more appropriate to express what I meant instead of a shot on goal".

Players as far as I know, always aim for goal and not anything else so it's "a shot at goal".
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 12 2013, 02:37 PM)
I guess I am more annoyed with calls for "BR out". Players can win you games, but manager can win you trophies. But not all fans are perfect. They were just annoyed. Go easy with them bro. They will come to senses again when they cool down.
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Do you think Downing had a bad game though?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 12 2013, 02:35 PM)
I prefer to look at the positive.

If there is anything I would be happy about, it's the performance of Lucas, henderson and Downing.

Lucas, especially, looked like a possessed man. He won so many balls back for the team, doing all those ugly tricks he good at.

In the first half, around 20+ minutes, he won the ball from a tackle that went over to Suarez. That reminds me of Mascherano's sliding tackle in the reading game that Torres scored from the sliding tackle pass.
Hendo is unlucky not to score his 3rd goal in 3 games when Foster made that save. Downing was good, beating players around and also helping out Glenny who was so piss poor last nite.
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There is no positive at all from the last game. None.

Lucas is just an average defensive midifelder. The same goes to Henderson and Downing. Average player. Sometimes they play ok and most of the time not.

We should all stop talking crap just because they play for Liverpool. We support but at the same time take off the red tinted glass and look at the real picture.

They should all take a hard look of themselves and no words can describe how poor they were yesterday.

8 losses already and half of it came from Anfield. We are 1 point behind a team that lost 11 matches this season. That is how bad we are. Nope no positives at all. Zilch.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 02:38 PM)
Thought about it a little. Maybe the term, "a shot at goal" is more appropriate to express what I meant instead of a shot on goal".

Players as far as I know, always aim for goal and not anything else so it's "a shot at goal".
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Aiming is one thing, shots is another. Dont mix the two together. Majority of shots from Suarez yesterday were off target. Meaning, not on goal. Thus contribute to the statistic of shots i put earlier.

OPTA stats have a different definition that yours. I'd take OPTA definition that yours. Thank you.
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You're welcome.

This bloke seems to be as confused as me.

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The Reds can point to the fact they had more than 20 attempts on goal, and only Foster's heroics, including another world class save from Gerrard and stops from Downing, Suarez and Agger, prevented them from recording a comfortable victory.
Seems to be a bit of a moron as well

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Soon after, the impressive Downing struck an even fiercer shot that Ben Foster did well to parry, and Daniel Agger was agonisingly close to converting a cross from the winger as it breezed past.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/mat...-albion-1300666

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Do you think Downing had a bad game though?
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No way. He played so well. Outpacing defenders and working hard. Our set piece defending again let us down.
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No way. He played so well. Outpacing defenders and working hard. Our set piece defending again let us down.
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There was a point in the first half where his runs down the right against and out-of-position Liam Ridgwell resulted in a telling cross into the box which was put out for a corner, a shot which tested Ben Foster and finally another corner as a result of another burst of pace. This was all in the space of 10 mins. Downing may not have lived up to is value but no one can say he hasn't been enjoying a good bit of form since late November.

This morning he was one of our more positive players going forward.
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only a moron would call another a moron biggrin.gif

btw Downing was voted motm by the LFC journos...
so obviously only a Downing hater would plain disagree even with the LFC ppl...

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 02:28 PM)
The term "shots" and "on target" are used. If players don't shoot for goal, what else are they shooting at? The corner flag? A shot in this sense is quite obviously a shot on goal and not as fan, or the poor cameraman behind the goal.

In any case, I don't think there is confusion over what 25(7) means. Semantics.
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suarez did have a shot narrowly miss the corner flag by a foot or so biggrin.gif

thats what he gets for not touching the TIA sign on the way out...

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 12 2013, 03:44 PM)
suarez did have a shot narrowly miss the corner flag by a foot or so biggrin.gif

thats what he gets for not touching the TIA sign on the way out...
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Did Suarez touch the TIA sign everytime before the match?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 12 2013, 03:43 PM)
only a moron would call another a moron biggrin.gif

btw Downing was voted motm by the LFC journos...
so obviously only a Downing hater would plain disagree even with the LFC ppl...
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Did Suarez touch the TIA sign everytime before the match?
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why dont u go ask him?
https://twitter.com/luis16suarez

not like the cameras always show all the players going out...
and as a LFC player, and one who says he loves the club, he should already know the significance of it.

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For me, downing Lucas and hendo were the outstanding trio that can hold their head high after yesterday's match because they gave everything and had the performance to match.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 12 2013, 03:44 PM)
suarez did have a shot narrowly miss the corner flag by a foot or so biggrin.gif

thats what he gets for not touching the TIA sign on the way out...
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Well Downing doesn't.

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/11/lfc-m...ch-this-is.html

Read somewhere that not all the players do. The only ones that do it religiously are Gerrard, Carra, Pepe, Agger, Johnson and Lucas.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 12 2013, 04:00 PM)
why dont u go ask him?
https://twitter.com/luis16suarez

not like the cameras always show all the players going out...
and as a LFC player, and one who says he loves the club, he should already know the significance of it.
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Would not bother much whether he touched TIA sign. As long he scores goal for us and play with all his heart, then should be good enuf. Missed the match yesterday and how was Countinho doing?
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even Mulumbu touched the TIA sign last night...oh wait...hes not ours... whistling.gif
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Coutinho was not on long enough to make any significant contribution.

I'm my opinion, there were times we played some really slick football to create openings. The good thing is the weren't a result of any one player's skill. It was a team effort most of the time. Downing to me was one of our players who created the most openings for his teammates.

It was a game we were pretty dominant in but we got sucker punched. Ben Foster had a good game in goal and made an exceptional save from Gerrard as he initially went the wrong way, but managed to stick out his hand to deflect the swerving drive, wide. Borini also had a good effort foiled by some excellent handling from Foster. West Brom only managed their first shot late in the game. In the end, we failed because we didnt put our chances away, especially from the spot as Stevie had his low drive parried by Foster, yet again. The fact that the former Man Utd keeper was the MOM, speaks volumes of how dominant we were attacking wise.

The of course, some say it was our "worst performance of the season" so best you watch the replays me judge for yourself.
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even Mulumbu touched the TIA sign last night...oh wait...hes not ours...  whistling.gif
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We just haven't officially announced his signing. Waiting for the next transfer window.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 12 2013, 04:55 PM)
It was a game we were pretty dominant in but we got sucker punched. Ben Foster had a good game in goal and made an exceptional save from Gerrard as he initially went the wrong way, but managed to stick out his hand to deflect the swerving drive, wide. Borini also had a good effort foiled by some excellent handling from Foster. West Brom only managed their first shot late in the game. In the end, we failed because we didnt put our chances away, especially from the spot as Stevie had his low drive parried by Foster, yet again. The fact that the former Man Utd keeper was the MOM, speaks volumes of how dominant we were attacking wise.

The of course, some say it was our "worst performance of the season" so best you watch the replays me judge for yourself.
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Not to forget another Gerrard's swerving shot which Foster made fingertip last minute save
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http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1337030/...ea-fans?cc=4716

"In football in England, you have 60 million managers. In Spain, there are 40 million managers. Everyone has an opinion." - Rafa

maybe Rafa should add 'In Malaysia, there are 20 million managers'.
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QUOTE(farisq @ Feb 12 2013, 05:23 PM)
Not to forget another Gerrard's swerving shot which Foster made fingertip last minute save
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Foster was a wall last nite. I got a feeling that stevie was gonna miss the pen because you can sense that foster was super confident leading to the pen. I can hear even hear him clanking his gloves together no less than 3 times if im not mistaken due to the microphone behind the goal post at anfield being so sensitive. It was fcuking intimidating and he looked big. Stevie's pen was tame as well. A bad night that we must put behind us.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 12 2013, 05:30 PM)
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1337030/...ea-fans?cc=4716

"In football in England, you have 60 million managers. In Spain, there are 40 million managers. Everyone has an opinion." - Rafa

maybe Rafa should add 'In Malaysia, there are 20 million managers'.
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Lol.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Feb 12 2013, 05:33 PM)
Foster was a wall last nite. I got a feeling that stevie was gonna miss the pen because you can sense that foster was super confident leading to the pen. I can hear even hear him clanking his gloves together no less than 3 times if im not mistaken due to the microphone behind the goal post at anfield being so sensitive. It was fcuking intimidating and he looked big. Stevie's pen was tame as well. A bad night that we must put behind us.
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As you can see from the analysis before the penalty was taken, the last 8 penalties taken by Gerrard was hit on the LEFT. And non was low shot, all were either top of corner or middle.... Of the 8, 7 were on target , only one miss.

You can see Gerrard trying his less favourable side and ended up with TAME LOW SHOT. Foster was initially wanted to jump to the left but was quick enough to jump to the right and save the shots. The shot taken was poor. Lack of power and slow.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 12 2013, 03:00 PM)
No way. He played so well. Outpacing defenders and working hard. Our set piece defending again let us down.
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I'd blame Reina for the 1st goal. He should come out and ounch the ball instead of caught standing there waiting. 2nd goal got nothing to do with defending. Midfield were non existent. Lucas was not there in the centre, Gerrard nope not there either. A quick counter and boom goal.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 12 2013, 03:43 PM)
only a moron would call another a moron biggrin.gif
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Hey bro. We can play this TVB game from your sentence. LOL biggrin.gif

"Only a moron would call another a moron"

"Only a moron would comment on another moron that calls another fella a moron". HAHAHAHA tongue.gif

Now someone else pick up the line and continue. HAHA.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Feb 12 2013, 05:33 PM)
Foster was a wall last nite. I got a feeling that stevie was gonna miss the pen because you can sense that foster was super confident leading to the pen. I can hear even hear him clanking his gloves together no less than 3 times if im not mistaken due to the microphone behind the goal post at anfield being so sensitive. It was fcuking intimidating and he looked big. Stevie's pen was tame as well. A bad night that we must put behind us.
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How many jerat penalties you see goes places other than his right bottom corner?
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Anyone else saw The Star sports section headline? Kutuk Liverpool kaw kaw punya. The MU fan editor does it again
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any opposition keeper are always god mode when against us
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Downing was performing again. Deserve a start for the next game then?
Well, previously I also hated him and rated him as a lazy player but now...
Players change... Lucas, Henderson as an example. Slowly they were becoming the
core players...


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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 13 2013, 09:18 AM)
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Anyone else saw The Star sports section headline? Kutuk Liverpool kaw kaw punya. The MU fan editor does it again
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 13 2013, 01:55 PM)
We need to turn them into Goddesses mode tongue.gif
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liek dat KitKat tv ad? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Is it true tomorrow game at 11.00pm? If it is then yea, damned early and make us
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Is it true tomorrow game at 11.00pm? If it is then yea, damned early and make us
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1.00 am. Friday Morning.
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1.00 am. Friday Morning.
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Owh.. My bad... Thank you brother. 1.00 am yea. I hope the defense is going to
be sorted nicely this time. No more stupid mistake like during a corner or free-kick
against us. If Skrtel-Agger partnership is worth it, I hope both gonna lift us up in
Europe... Please, at least win a cup this season. Its f**kin depressing without any
cup this season and come out with empty handed...

Key players for this game for me: Henderson, Downing, Lucas.

When our defensive midfielder is on super-on-form, nobody is messing around
with our thin middle of the park... Even the back four are being protected.



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liek dat KitKat tv ad? laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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No. Intimidate them. We need skrtel or Agger to act like gangsters and shout at the goalies "I'm gonna cut your pee pee. I'm gonna burn your family. Now this is football! You get it? You like it?"

Hahahaha biggrin.gif

Their morale will go down.
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QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Feb 13 2013, 02:59 PM)
Owh.. My bad... Thank you brother. 1.00 am yea. I hope the defense is going to
be sorted nicely this time. No more stupid mistake like during a corner or free-kick
against us. If Skrtel-Agger partnership is worth it, I hope both gonna lift us up in
Europe... Please, at least win a cup this season. Its f**kin depressing without any
cup this season and come out with empty handed...

Key players for this game for me: Henderson, Downing, Lucas.
 
When our defensive midfielder is on super-on-form, nobody is messing around
with our thin middle of the park... Even the back four are being protected.
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Dont forget Gerrard, Suarez and Sturridge. This 3 have been on top form. Even when not scoring goals, their movement and passing have been class. Hoping to see more of Gerrard's long range shooting. Never ceases to excite me.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 13 2013, 03:14 PM)
No. Intimidate them. We need skrtel or Agger to act like gangsters and shout at the goalies "I'm gonna cut your pee pee. I'm gonna burn your family. Now this is football! You get it? You like it?"

Hahahaha biggrin.gif

Their morale will go down.
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however for the previous game.
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You lot haven't got a clue! Shelvey slams Liverpool fans after midfielder loses his cool over Twitter flak
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#axzz2KkNF0Kl6

Bye bye shelvey?
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"Suarez has had 7 or more shots 11 times this season. #LFC have lost 6 of them, with 4 wins and 1 draw." twitter quote no sauce

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to umm celebrate our loss against wba...i went and bought another training polo...but funny thing is i only see it on japan sites.
doesnt appear anywhere in LFC or warrior store.
and yes, bought from new balance boutique.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 13 2013, 08:41 PM)
You lot haven't got a clue! Shelvey slams Liverpool fans after midfielder loses his cool over Twitter flak
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#axzz2KkNF0Kl6

Bye bye shelvey?
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thats why jonjo should've quoted rafa 'in england, we have 40 million managers. everyone has an opinion.'

anyway, why bye bye?
a manager must be extremely stupid to sell a player based on something that is not a serious offence...

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 13 2013, 10:32 PM)
to umm celebrate our loss against wba...i went and bought another training polo...but funny thing is i only see it on japan sites.
doesnt appear anywhere in LFC or warrior store.
and yes, bought from new balance boutique.

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thats why jonjo should've quoted rafa 'in england, we have 40 million managers. everyone has an opinion.'

anyway, why bye bye?
a manager must be extremely stupid to sell a player based on something that is not a serious offence...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 13 2013, 08:41 PM)
You lot haven't got a clue! Shelvey slams Liverpool fans after midfielder loses his cool over Twitter flak
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#axzz2KkNF0Kl6

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Feb 13 2013, 09:44 PM)
bought the red one. didnt see this black version in NB outlet in KL (fahrenheit)
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i got the purple one also.
the black ones i see in NB outlets around PJ...one utama, gardens, subang parade.

didnt get the red, cos its just too similar to the home kit.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Feb 13 2013, 09:52 PM

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