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 Cycling V5 aka 8888 CNY HUAT ah!, General talks on Racing/road bikes

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butthead
post Mar 16 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 16 2013, 05:44 PM)
fuuu...

wall of text...

from FB... Alert. beware!

A fellow cyclist's windscreen was smashed this morning at Bukit Jelutong, parked at D'Bayu, some stuffs got stolen.

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Btw, the thief smashed WINDSCREEN really daring! THe bukit Aman thief case normally only smash side window...
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maybe the thief is thoughtful and think the owner has windscreen insurance?

else, he would be a massive idiot for smashing the windscreen... would have to clamber all over the hood to get in right?

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 16 2013, 07:25 PM)
i tot d'bayu is not a secluded place? got pedestrians right? that's very daring indeed!
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my friend kena in TTDI also.. right in front of the restaurant where he was parked during working days and lunch hour... people just watch his car get smashed and dual din player getting yanked out... it was too late when he realize and got out...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 16 2013, 07:28 PM)
yeap. i read one of those wheelbuilding books. lace, handtighten all nipples, dishing, and then start tensioning the drive side to the desired tension whilst maintaining the dishing. measure spoke tension only on drive side. the non-drive side has lower tension.
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yup, the drive side is bound to have lower tension because it does not need to handle the torque that is transmitted by the cassette among one of the reasons... well, my memory is all over the place... i might be wrong..

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/11/bik...-tension_198452

maybe this is similar to your case... much like what they say about those easton wheels arriving out of dish so that it centers itself correctly with tires installed...

maybe you can see if the drive side spokes drop in tension when you pump your tires up to prove that theory of yours...
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post Mar 16 2013, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 16 2013, 07:31 PM)
Strong finished, but even a strong fall! shame  rclxms.gif


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maybe he was too excited to have won or it is his first time giving a victory salute?

hope his first place prize is a brand new bike blush.gif

on the subject of victory salutes..
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/cyclin...victory-salutes

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lemond: wat are you doing?
hinault: i am letting you win the tour, let me take the stage

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post Mar 16 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 16 2013, 07:59 PM)
yup, the drive side is bound to have lower tension because it does not need to handle the torque that is transmitted by the cassette among one of the reasons... well, my memory is all over the place... i might be wrong..
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terbalik la boss....

QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 16 2013, 07:59 PM)
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/11/bik...-tension_198452

maybe this is similar to your case... much like what they say about those easton wheels arriving out of dish so that it centers itself correctly with tires installed...

maybe you can see if the drive side spokes drop in tension when you pump your tires up to prove that theory of yours...
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yeap, that's right. once pumped, they rim migrates to the drive side. ideally, there should be two truing stands. one for the front wheel, the other for the rear wheel which will be trued off-center.

so i don't bother. i true it without tyre on and just ignore the detension effect
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post Mar 16 2013, 08:41 PM

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Well after I did some researched I think I can grasp what you are talking about. Well with power meter at least I got something to measure up to. It's kinda boring the way it is now, with the assumption that I do an interval on my trainer daily, only to measure it by HR.

I can't measure the success of the hours spent on the session at all. My guesstimation is I can hold the session longer and a drop in HR which is not a good point to quantify an improved performance.

Strava is playing the catch up games with the power measurement but afaik trainingpeaks is the best place to go if i want to psycho analyzed things like this. To conclude, I definitely have to have the knowledge, else buying it will be just a waste of money.

p/s: skipping the pedals based power meter, looks too fragile for my usage!
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post Mar 16 2013, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 16 2013, 08:33 PM)
terbalik la boss....
yeap, that's right. once pumped, they rim migrates to the drive side. ideally, there should be two truing stands. one for the front wheel, the other for the rear wheel which will be trued off-center.

so i don't bother. i true it without tyre on and just ignore the detension effect
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it seems that not only my memory is wrong... my grammar also became problematic...

replying the power meter topic put too much stress on my cpu

you didn't buy the dish tool when you bought the stand?

i thought the park tool stand has some parts where you have to flip or adjust for front or rear wheel?
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post Mar 16 2013, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 16 2013, 08:41 PM)
Well after I did some researched I think I can grasp what you are talking about. Well with power meter at least I got something to measure up to. It's kinda boring the way it is now, with the assumption that I do an interval on my trainer daily, only to measure it by HR.

I can't measure the success of the hours spent on the session at all. My guesstimation is I can hold the session longer and a drop in HR which is not a good point to quantify an improved performance.

Strava is playing the catch up games with the power measurement but afaik trainingpeaks is the best place to go if i want to psycho analyzed things like this. To conclude, I definitely have to have the knowledge, else buying it will be just a waste of money.

p/s: skipping the pedals based power meter, looks too fragile for my usage!
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haha... new toy to play with... now you have to deal with vin_ann since he is back in action...i'll pretend to not know you just so i don't get linked to you in case he wants to start challenging people
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post Mar 16 2013, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 16 2013, 10:38 PM)
it seems that not only my memory is wrong... my grammar also became problematic...

replying the power meter topic put too much stress on my cpu

you didn't buy the dish tool when you bought the stand?

i thought the park tool stand has some parts where you have to flip or adjust for front or rear wheel?
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really? that's some kind of david copperfield magic! i'll read the manual again

nope, park tool stuff too expensive. i use the centering gauge instead. unless i wanna build a wheel from scratch, then i'll get the dishing tool.

servicing my bike. rd pulley done. BB/crank done. cassette done.

removed fork, and noticed my newly replaced brake cable housing is damaged! how come??? there's a 3mm hole! and my headset also kaput.... sand got into the bearing. so not smooth anymore.

well... where can i get them replaced? should i get the complete headset, or should i go to a bearing shop (where is it anyway?) and get the bearings only?

i know velocipide, biketech, pedalspot, ksh, avanti open tomorrow. which shop would u recommend? i wanna get my headset and cable housing and bartape replaced.

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post Mar 16 2013, 11:45 PM

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pedalspot has sram professional cable and velocipede has ilinks, your choice

how did it come to a hole on the casing? you mean you can see a hole and even the inner cable? housing is usually damn though and your paint on the frame would most probably have been scraped off before the housing breaks in case of frame rub
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post Mar 16 2013, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 16 2013, 11:45 PM)
pedalspot has sram professional cable and velocipede has ilinks, your choice

how did it come to a hole on the casing? you mean you can see a hole and even the inner cable? housing is usually damn though and your  paint on the frame would most probably have been scraped off before the housing breaks in case of frame rub
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yes, i can see the inner coil. the damage is more like it's been bitten or crushed by something hard. the housing sudah pecah. i have no idea how it happened.

ooo ilinks.... where to find normal shimano black housing?
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:05 AM

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shimano black housing i thought is available everywhere?

soli about the stand... i think my memory messed up again... i think the adjustment should be meant for MTB 135mm hubs and road 130mm hubs and not rear and front wheel... if adjusted correctly... the rear and front wheel should be the same? or is my memory wrong again?

anyways, if dished properly... the rear wheel should be centered between the calipers if you flipped the wheel around as far as i know...
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 16 2013, 11:01 PM)
removed fork, and noticed my newly replaced brake cable housing is damaged! how come??? there's a 3mm hole! and my headset also kaput.... sand got into the bearing. so not smooth anymore.

well... where can i get them replaced? should i get the complete headset, or should i go to a bearing shop (where is it anyway?) and get the bearings only?

i know velocipide, biketech, pedalspot, ksh, avanti open tomorrow. which shop would u recommend? i wanna get my headset and cable housing and bartape replaced.
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headset bearings won't come easy.. those ID and OD is not something the bearings shop have normally... last i went to section 51 SKF bearing shop also could not find one that matched exactly the same... you could try NTN but as far as i know their HQ in subang don't deal with end users...

time for some new HS... chris king this time... but CK didn't make internal headsets i think... or at least not for your SL3 because i can't find one for mine...

get the ilink lar... the housing should be much tougher than the shimano ones although pricey and compressionless somemore.. like mr.jgx says... YOLO...hahaha..

RM200++ only mar...and fully shielded somemore
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 17 2013, 12:08 AM)
headset bearings won't come easy.. those ID and OD is not something the bearings shop have normally... last i went to section 51 SKF bearing shop also could not find one that matched exactly the same... you could try NTN but as far as i know their HQ in subang don't deal with end users...

time for some new HS... chris king this time... but CK didn't make internal headsets i think... or at least not for your SL3 because i can't find one for mine...

get the ilink lar... the housing should be much tougher than the shimano ones although pricey and compressionless somemore.. like mr.jgx says... YOLO...hahaha..

RM200++ only mar...and fully shielded somemore
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ok. i halfway makan racun already. they have headsets?
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:32 AM

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err... i dunno wat headset they have...

you can take a look at it and consider it lar...the metalic look of the housing is not really for everyone's taste... if look is among your considerations.. i am more into it's functional usage rather than how it looks... it is one of the alternatives to nokon which is a pain to string up...i also think it looks uglier than nokon, but that is what we can only get here... so, no complaints...

that or you can opt for jagwire racer kits.. less than 100 bucks for brake and shifter...
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:54 AM

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haha. YOLO! saw the Nokon links just now at my lbs. there's 2 version..rm200 and rm300. nearly take it then i remember le butthead said sram red already has the covered cabling so my money is safe.

saw campy super record eps at a whopping rm18k yawn.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:04 AM

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that's a painful price for SR EPS...i don't remember it being priced that high... is it your side only or it is really that high?
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:13 AM

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well the lbs is known for a little bit on the high side of price but then yes it was tag at 22k dirhams, equivalent to RM18k.

DA9000 at 11k dirhams, RM9.3k.

2012 Red at 8k dirhams, RM6.7k

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post Mar 17 2013, 01:16 AM

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DA9000 here is 6k+
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:23 AM

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everything is expensive here...my driving license already took around 7K and I failed the road test for nothing. They just failed me like they failed everybody else on their 1st test! that's the part of living in other people's country.

Before you all sleep, I share with you guys some loveeeeee drool.gif


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post Mar 17 2013, 02:10 AM

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the video is of no interest to me... maybe you might cause vin_ann to lose sleep tonight if he watches it this late...hahah

wat, 7k for driving test? they must be teaching you to be a wrc driver... wat do they need you to do on the test that can fail you... jump sand dunes placed 170feet apart or banzai a corner at 130mph?
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post Mar 17 2013, 02:17 AM

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.... browsing internet to find info on headset.... and ilinks

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