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 Cycling V5 aka 8888 CNY HUAT ah!, General talks on Racing/road bikes

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post Mar 14 2013, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Mar 13 2013, 10:12 PM)
Not sure if this is posted here before... But very interesting stuff and claim from this new carbon clincher

Mavic Cosmic carbone clincher
a more interesting take by velonews

Mavic’s all-new Cosmic Carbone 40C: The first truly safe carbon clincher?


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The connection between the carbon and aluminum surfaces is apparently chemical, not mechanical, meaning it will only get stronger with time. We’re not exactly sure how that works, not being chemical engineers, but will have to just trust Mavic on this one.

The result is a rim that sees only a marginal weight penalty, if any at all (Mavic claims that its wheels have lower inertia figures than Zipp’s 303 Firecrest Clincher, suggesting rims of similar weight), and are extremely unlikely to fail catastrophically as a result of excessive brake heat. A win-win situation, we think.


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Stopping

The final, but no less important issue with carbon clinchers is the brake surface itself. These have come a long way in recent years, with the latest from companies like Zipp and Bontrager hitting impressively high marks for stopping power and modulation. Mavic’s solution to the heat problems do help braking in that the rim is less likely to massively overheat, but most brake situations get nowhere near that mark. So simple, everyday brake pad friction becomes the primary concern.

Mavic’s tactic has been to add a proprietary surface treatment to its brake tracks in order to get them a bit closer to the power found on an aluminum rim, much like Enve does. The treatment is part of the carbon or resin itself, apparently, so will last the life of the rim.


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The specs

Weight: 1545 grams, no base tape needed, without skewers. 670 front, 875 rear
Rim width: 19mm outside width. Uses threaded nipple inserts like the Ksyrium
Hub: Same as CXR80, aerodynamically shaped
Spokes: 16 front, 20 rear
Comes with: Skewers, Yksion GripLink and PowerLink tires, same Swisstop yellow pads Mavic recommends for all its wheels
Price: $2750

Mavic claims
Rim weight: a bit lighter than Zipp 303 FC and Reynolds 46 clincher (note: 40C is shallower than both), according to Mavic
Aerodynamics: Slightly less aero than Zipp, better than Reynolds (according to Mavic)

Braking distance (unknown test parameters): 45 meters for Mavic, Reynolds and Zipp take 90 meters in wet conditions.


not cheap though...

and a video of how it is made...


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post Mar 14 2013, 11:03 PM

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Eh the new mavic 40c, is it the first carbon clincher? Then what is the Mavic cosmic carbone slr? Not carbon clincher?

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post Mar 14 2013, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 14 2013, 11:03 PM)
Eh the new mavic 40c, is it the first carbon clincher? Then what is the Mavic cosmic carbone slr? Not carbon clincher?

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it is not a carbon clincher with full carbon construction.. it is technically considered an alloy hybrid clincher with carbon fairing or should it be called an alloy core hybrid carbon clincher...if i am not wrong.. the brake track depends on alloy core rather than a full carbon construction...and it also does not use a full alloy brake track like previous 404's does...

so, i officially don't know what to call it... maybe a carbon wrapped alloy brake track clincher



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post Mar 15 2013, 02:08 AM

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any bike pros can tell from link if suitable for adults?

also how is the spec? good? worth the money?

QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 13 2013, 12:04 AM)
i think this is the one i saw in actual:

Skurvy

it states for 12 year old boy but it's much bigger than the other model, can you look at the description and tell me if it's suitable for adults?
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post Mar 15 2013, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(geno @ Mar 14 2013, 04:14 PM)
During the early 90's when mobile phones were still a luxury to own. We always ride  with two 1 ringgit coins tucked underneath our tights. Pushing my bike for miles on a clipless shoe at a kampung road on a raining evening. FML. Thank god a friendly chap voluteered to fetch me to the pekan for patching at a motor shop.
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the first time i did broga loop, i did broga jantan. when climbing up peres, it was too hard. speed was 5kmh. had to stop twice. then my friend and i heard the sound of lorry coming from behind us. we waved at them to stop. and they waved back and continued. i guess they thought we were just two friendly cyclists waving at them.
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post Mar 15 2013, 09:26 AM

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abang.. your hand gesture is wrong mar

should do this instead
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post Mar 15 2013, 09:39 AM

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i've found a new love...

R5CA is now gone and the new RCA is in... lighter and equally as expensive... USD10k...and only 345 will be made...

Cervelo claims to find the great compromise in the new Rca

$10,000 Cervélo RCA frame that weighs 667g - first look and ride

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new nickel coated carbon steerer fork...

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new squoval shape and new resin material...


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post Mar 15 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 15 2013, 02:08 AM)
any bike pros can tell from link if suitable for adults?

also how is the spec? good? worth the money?
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i don't know about you... but priced too much for an auntie bike...

unless you really appreciate the design or want it for decorative purposes... then i don't see why it is worth over RM1k...

it is just plain too much to pay for a normal bike...but, then again.. every person has their values on a arty farty item...that we can't debate on...
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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 15 2013, 09:26 AM)
abang.. your hand gesture is wrong mar

should do this instead
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u mean, should dress up like that? the jeans shorts can cause chafing la. damn painful. broga loop summore...
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post Mar 15 2013, 12:17 PM

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u need to roll up ur spandex and lift ur hips bend ur waist step out ur sexy two tone tight...
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post Mar 15 2013, 12:50 PM

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someone posted this in FB ... hilarious laugh.gif

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post Mar 15 2013, 01:34 PM

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could be an outdated but it's well worth a look at Cav reaction..what say you?


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post Mar 15 2013, 01:40 PM

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On the other hand, Rapha gave me a free 50USD voucher because they didn't have the softshell gillet that i ordered and again it was a very late delivery (they should do something about their logistic system, otherwise it will be the cause of their demise).

On my previous order they game me a free arm screen warmers and a winter collar neck on top of a 15% voucher for my next order (due to late delivery as well)

How could I put an order which clearly states that an item is available, and after a week of no shipping and upon my complaint they reply with the item is out of stock? Well they are pretty generous in the customer service complaints and department, but really they should buckle up on their shipping flows.

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post Mar 15 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 15 2013, 09:39 AM)
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i've found a new love...

R5CA is now gone and the new RCA is in... lighter and equally as expensive... USD10k...and only 345 will be made...

Cervelo claims to find the great compromise in the new Rca

$10,000 Cervélo RCA frame that weighs 667g - first look and ride

user posted image
new nickel coated carbon steerer fork...

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new squoval shape and new resin material...
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Just finish reading about this bike..it was overly expensive! Less drag then the tarmac sl4 and with the minimalist design (non bulky frame), it is definitely my dream bike...but I can only dream about it unsure.gif
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QUOTE(yolk @ Mar 15 2013, 12:50 PM)
someone posted this in FB ...  hilarious  laugh.gif

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haha... true...true... so true...

especially when you are on speed... you think you can even fly...

QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 15 2013, 01:34 PM)
could be an outdated but it's well worth a look at Cav reaction..what say you?


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it is not the first time... he has told reporter to go die several times especially when the time reporters only want to ask about lance armstrong in the press conferences...

he is as fiery as sir brad...

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 15 2013, 01:40 PM)
On the other hand, Rapha gave me a free 50USD voucher because they didn't have the softshell gillet that i ordered and again it was a very late delivery (they should do something about their logistic system, otherwise it will be the cause of their demise).

On my previous order they game me a free arm screen warmers and a winter collar neck on top of a 15% voucher for my next order (due to late delivery as well)

How could I put an order which clearly states that an item is available, and after a week of no shipping and upon my complaint they reply with the item is out of stock? Well they are pretty generous in the customer service complaints and department, but really they should buckle up on their shipping flows.
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for me... i will hope they will continue to be sucky on their inventory management.. that way, i can continue to get benefits from their customer service...

or, could this be their tactic that they want to keep giving you discount vouchers so you can continually make purchases from them??? they just need to do something so that you don't suspect their motives of giving you the vouchers....

ada udang di sebalik batu...

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notworthy.gif hails to all senior cyclists here... notworthy.gif

i feel so young...

and i never have to go through what your went throught...
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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 15 2013, 02:28 PM)
Just finish reading about this bike..it was overly expensive! Less drag then the tarmac sl4 and with the minimalist design (non bulky frame), it is definitely my dream bike...but I can only dream about it  unsure.gif
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it does not even show up in my dreams... that is how far fetch it is...

but i like it...as much as i like the parlee z5sl... it is as miao puts it... so not mainstream... you will be one of the 345 privileged ones in the world to own one...
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as fiery as he is or Brad, that is the only proven way of concealing some udang di sebalik batu, as proven by Armstrong.

OTH I just bought the book by David Millar (Racing Through the Dark) to compliment the one from Tyler Hamilton that I bought earlier tongue.gif

eyh butthead i think you may be right at some point...perhaps it's the Rapha tactic because I am now surfing their site looking what can I have with the 50usd discount voucher haha..

u really got jedi power ohmy.gif

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Just wondering what's the general lifespan of roadbike tyres ? Any mileage estimation ? I've just done 1000km and can see that the rear tyre is starting to square off. Do people swap the front/rear tyre on road bikes ?

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