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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V6, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

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post Dec 4 2017, 03:37 PM

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[quote=SAMPERTH,Dec 4 2017, 03:35 PM]
1 to 1.5” per year is a good guide !
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You deworm your babies?
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post Dec 4 2017, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Relentless @ Dec 4 2017, 04:37 PM)
QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 4 2017, 03:35 PM)

1 to 1.5” per year is a good guide !
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You deworm your babies?
I seldom deworm any of my turtle ! But I bet some of them are full of worms !

Predator type like mata mata and snapping or even slider are easy to deworm - inject the worming medication into the feeder fish or shrimp and feed ( tip is starve your babies for at least a few meal till it look hungry and constant moving around looking for a feed , before feeding )

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post Dec 4 2017, 04:20 PM

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You deworm your babies?
I have read it is difficult to deworm mata2s because they are constantly exposed to bacteria and germs from their feeding requirement of live feeders.
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post Dec 4 2017, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(ron c @ Dec 4 2017, 04:20 PM)
I have read it is difficult to deworm mata2s because they are constantly exposed to bacteria and germs from their feeding requirement of live feeders.
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Yeah. I realise that so i plan to get a pair of tilapia to get the fries
I got a pair of convict cichlid now and waiting for it to breed.
I realise that most of the feeder in lfs are weak and easily succumb to death when i attempt to acclimitize them to blackwater.


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post Dec 4 2017, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(Relentless @ Dec 4 2017, 07:33 PM)
Yeah. I realise that so i plan to get a pair of tilapia to get the fries
I got a pair of convict cichlid  now and waiting for it to breed.
I realise that most of the feeder in lfs are weak and easily succumb to death when i attempt to acclimitize them to  blackwater.
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Breeding your food supply is the best way to go ! Like snake keeper will try to breed their own rats or mice if they have multiple snakes .

Dragon fly nymphs beside tapoles are good food items for variety .....

A good SOP will be to soak the feeder in diluted S1 or iodine before putting into turtle tank !

Swordtail and mollies take to salty/brackish water better than say baby koi/goldfish .

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post Dec 4 2017, 07:50 PM

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[quote=SAMPERTH,Dec 4 2017, 07:22 PM]
Breeding your food supply is the best way to go ! Like snake keeper will try to breed their own rats or mice if they have multiple snakes .

Dragon fly nymphs beside tapoles are good food items for variety .....

A good SOP will be to soak the feeder in diluted S1 or iodine before putting into turtle tank !

Swordtail and mollies take to salty/brackish water better than say baby koi/goldfish .

Cheers
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Yeah. I even went to a lake last week to net fishes to feed my turtle.
Especially haruan fries. Hehe
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post Dec 4 2017, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Relentless @ Dec 4 2017, 08:50 PM)
QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 4 2017, 07:22 PM)

Breeding your food supply is the best way to go ! Like snake keeper will try to breed their own rats or mice if they have multiple snakes .

Dragon fly nymphs beside tapoles are good food items for variety  ..... 

A good SOP will be to soak the feeder in diluted S1 or iodine before putting into turtle tank !

Swordtail and mollies take to salty/brackish water better than say baby koi/goldfish .

Cheers
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Yeah. I even went to a lake last week to net fishes to feed my turtle.
Especially haruan fries. Hehe
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Haruan fry maybe a little quick , try fighting fish fry ( breeder have rejects here and there ) or just breed your own !

Even adult brine shrimps are good !

Cheers
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post Dec 4 2017, 09:12 PM

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[quote=SAMPERTH,Dec 4 2017, 08:07 PM]
Yeah. I even went to a lake last week to net fishes to feed my turtle.
Especially haruan fries. Hehe
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Haruan fry maybe a little quick , try fighting fish fry ( breeder have rejects here and there ) or just breed your own !

Even adult brine shrimps are good !

Cheers
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Honestly,the first feeder I tried were the female betta,usually can be obtain for rm1 in LFS.
I did the head counts and they remain as serene as ever in the mata2 turtle tank for the duration of the tank setup
So I move towards guppies,but like I said before,they 're fragile and dont last a long time in blackwater tank
I could see some belly up(perhaps lack of food,,perhaps.....)
Next,I secure a couple of 1-2 inches tilapias and I keep a track on the numbers, surprisingly the numbers came down.
So the mata2 finally fed
Given the difficulty in getting smaller tilapias,
I venture into the getting 1-2 inches soon hock double as feeder fish(i kept it in the quarantine tank)
The latest percurement would be the the 4 croaking gouramis, of which I release into the mata2 tank a couple of minutes ago so as we speak.

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post Dec 5 2017, 10:48 AM

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[quote=Relentless,Dec 4 2017, 10:12 PM]
Haruan fry maybe a little quick , try fighting fish fry ( breeder have rejects here and there ) or just breed your own !

Even adult brine shrimps are good !

Cheers
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Honestly,the first feeder I tried were the female betta,usually can be obtain for rm1 in LFS.
I did the head counts and they remain as serene as ever in the mata2 turtle tank for the duration of the tank setup
So I move towards guppies,but like I said before,they 're fragile and dont last a long time in blackwater tank
I could see some belly up(perhaps lack of food,,perhaps.....)
Next,I secure a couple of 1-2 inches tilapias and I keep a track on the numbers, surprisingly the numbers came down.
So the mata2 finally fed
Given the difficulty in getting smaller tilapias,
I venture into the getting 1-2 inches soon hock double as feeder fish(i kept it in the quarantine tank)
The latest percurement would be the the 4 croaking gouramis, of which I release into the mata2 tank a couple of minutes ago so as we speak.
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Soon hock fry are good choice too ( can stand brackish ) but they don’t swim much thus need the mata2 to seek them out !

But I rather grow up soon hock for sale as ready market for them . ( I breed them for grow out )

Cheers


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post Dec 5 2017, 12:37 PM

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[quote=SAMPERTH,Dec 5 2017, 10:48 AM]
Honestly,the first feeder I tried were the female betta,usually can be obtain for rm1 in LFS.
I did the head counts and they remain as serene as ever in the mata2 turtle tank for the duration of the tank setup
So I move towards guppies,but like I said before,they 're fragile and dont last a long time in blackwater tank
I could see some belly up(perhaps lack of food,,perhaps.....)
Next,I secure a couple of 1-2 inches tilapias and I keep a track on the numbers, surprisingly the numbers came down.
So the mata2 finally fed
Given the difficulty in getting smaller tilapias,
I venture into the getting 1-2 inches soon hock double as feeder fish(i kept it in the quarantine tank)
The latest percurement would be the the 4 croaking gouramis, of which I release into the mata2 tank a couple of minutes ago so as we speak.
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[attachmentid=9403478]

Soon hock fry are good choice too ( can stand brackish ) but they don’t swim much thus need the mata2 to seek them out !

But I rather grow up soon hock for sale as ready market for them . ( I breed them for grow out )

Cheers
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Side income for soon hock la
Soon hock have a very frustrating growth rate
Doubt you can rely as a main stream of income.
After quarantine it. I am gonna feed it to mata2.hiak hiak hiak
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post Dec 5 2017, 04:55 PM

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[quote=Relentless,Dec 5 2017, 01:37 PM]
[QUOTE][attachmentid=9403478]

Soon hock fry are good choice too ( can stand brackish ) but they don’t swim much thus need the mata2 to seek them out !

But I rather grow up soon hock for sale as ready market for them . ( I breed them for grow out )

Cheers
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Side income for soon hock la
Soon hock have a very frustrating growth rate
Doubt you can rely as a main stream of income.
After quarantine it. I am gonna feed it to mata2.hiak hiak hiak
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Depends how you farm them , mine on pellets , indoor cement / fiberglass tank and growth not too bad !

Feed on live food and outdoor in mud pond takes forever to reach even 6-700g ( except for a few alpha adult )

Just like those long blue claw giant fresh water prawn !

Cheers

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post Dec 5 2017, 05:43 PM

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[quote=SAMPERTH,Dec 5 2017, 04:55 PM]
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Side income for soon hock la
Soon hock have a very frustrating growth rate
Doubt you can rely as a main stream of income.
After quarantine it. I am gonna feed it to mata2.hiak hiak hiak
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[/quote]

Depends how you farm them , mine on pellets , indoor cement / fiberglass tank and growth not too bad !

Feed on live food and outdoor in mud pond takes forever to reach even 6-700g ( except for a few alpha adult )

Just like those long blue claw giant fresh water prawn !

Cheers
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post Dec 15 2017, 12:34 PM

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Wah, now dropped to the 2nd page. Have to bump up this thread.

My Mata2 fouls up the water very quickly.
I put it in a plastic container without filter and have to change the water every 2-3 days. I doubt a small filter will help.
But its not a problem cos' I just pour away the water and fill in fresh ones. Water is only about 3 inches deep.
Its eating a lot, even immediately after a water change. I feed it baby koi with turtle pellets stuffed into their mouths for additional nutrition...
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post Dec 15 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(ron c @ Dec 15 2017, 01:34 PM)
Wah, now dropped to the 2nd page. Have to bump up this thread.

My Mata2 fouls up the water very quickly.
I put it in a plastic container without filter and have to change the water every 2-3 days. I doubt a small filter will help.
But its not a problem cos' I just pour away the water and fill in fresh ones. Water is only about 3 inches deep.
Its eating a lot, even immediately after a water change. I feed it baby koi with turtle pellets stuffed into their mouths for additional nutrition...
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Unstable water parameters too often will cause them to shed excessively which may or may not affect their growth or appetite !


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post Dec 15 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 15 2017, 05:19 PM)
Unstable water parameters too often will cause them to shed excessively which may or may not affect their growth or appetite !
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Yes, I have wondered about this point too.
Anyway to overcome the dirty water issue? I doubt a filter will work and the water level is too low for a filter to work anyway.
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post Dec 15 2017, 05:40 PM

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Maybe undergravel filter like those for plant tank ? Or powerhead type but place it sleeping down ( so dont need high water level to work )

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post Dec 16 2017, 11:11 AM

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My this turtle also don’t need deep water to keep ! A fun species to keep as well .

So fun that my children take over to keep as their own . LOL
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post Dec 16 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 16 2017, 11:11 AM)
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My this turtle also don’t need deep water to keep ! A fun species to keep as well .

So fun that my children take over to keep as their own . LOL
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i am to understand this is more terrestrial type of turtle, living in rocky waterfall area
anyway,You breed them yet?
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post Dec 16 2017, 12:27 PM

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I have kept my mata2 turtle over the last 1 month.
So far I only do water change weekly basis
I dont monitor my turtle,all I did was to make sure there are fishes in the tank for it to feast on.I used catappa leaves to reduce the water pH
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post Dec 16 2017, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Relentless @ Dec 16 2017, 01:24 PM)
i am to understand this is more terrestrial type of turtle, living in rocky waterfall area
anyway,You breed them yet?
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Ya they climb a bit thus the rock and a dry dock above !

Breeding , ya but they multiply slowly ! Lol

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