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Peugeot 408 Owners/ Fans Thread, Motion & Emotion
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SKYjack
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May 26 2013, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(delangzzz @ May 26 2013, 08:23 PM) Guys,strange thing happen this evening when my engine suddently stop when idling. Actually i went out to buy some groceries and my wife stay in the car. I left around an hour then it happen. After that i try to start the car but i cant. After i pull away the key then i start again,the engine manage to start. Is it possible the problem come from the battery?fyi, my mileage is around 8600km.. The fact that you were able to start the engine several times indicates the battery is in good shape.It may just be an electronic glitch. Nothing to worry. If it happens often then is very likely an ECU problem. When the problem gets worse,engine will not start. In that case better see the SC asap,the engine may stop anywhere anytime! This post has been edited by SKYjack: May 26 2013, 10:15 PM
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(Termibait @ May 26 2013, 11:11 PM) I beg to differ. The problem with peugeot battery particularly for 408 gives no warning before it went dead. So, one should not conclude the battery's condition just like that, fyi, I even had my battery checked at the sc one month ago for a special check, the diagnosis shows battery in good health. Guess waht, it went dead on wesak day, with no warning at all. Sending back to sc may help but dont put so much high hope on them. I doutb they could detect anything. My 408t had on few occasions facing loss of fuel for a second.(was driving and suddenly car slow down with a significant loss of fuek feeling). Sent back to sc and they say everything is ok.i guess, we will have to waut until our car break down only sc will take it seriously and rectify the problem. I had a door screw missing and had to pay rm1.80 for replacement.for the same door, the senior technician did not know or have thefirst hand information about loosen screws on other secrion until I was told by another technician who came to change battery fir me on wesak day. He even helped me to tighten it. What really upset me is that sc does not record this problem and have all 408t checked and rectify when owners bring their car in. Its a chance for them to impress clients but nasim did not capitalise on this. Its a great car to drive but its not perfect.we cant habe the best of 2 worlds. So, just bear with it and pray our car is not a lemon. Oh ya, you had this problem. You are right about battery sudden death.Actually it's not just Peugeot battery,most are like that. My wife's MYvi, on 3rd battery, all pervious had sudden death. It's appalling to hear stories like yours,customer service is really poor.I know Peugeot has greater volume and I wonder if that is affecting their technician training.Still it is no excuse for such poor customer support. This post has been edited by SKYjack: May 27 2013, 08:14 AM
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(Kanasai79 @ May 27 2013, 11:58 AM) Just a silly question: Do we need to service our 408 on schedule up to the-date? Example if I took the car on 20th Jan 2013, then my 2nd service (6 months) MUST be before July 20th?  20th July is advisable. However you are given 14days exceedance from 20th or 500 km,don't exceed these,which ever comes first.
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(@Henry@ @ May 27 2013, 02:33 PM) My 408Turbo arrived show room this morning and now undergoing registration process. Then will continue with the tinted job. Hopefully I can collect it tonight. By the way, I am now driving a show room demo car, same 408Turbo, as replacement after I hand over my Vios to the used car dealer. I took the offer 3k discount and 5yrs free service. The agent is my friend so I receive - 5" GPS (dont know what is brand is it) - iPad mini (already cash out from the agent, 1k) - cash rebate, 1.5k So as suggested, I will pump the front rubber with 34 psi while 32 for the rear rubber. I think that should be good enough. Any idea guys? 34 - 36psi is minimum. 32 is a bit low,you'll endup with outer rim on tyre wear. 2.5 Bar is about 35psi I think.
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ May 27 2013, 02:43 PM) Poison poison~  Yes poison poison. When coming here?
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ May 27 2013, 03:42 PM) Talk abt batt, got a question. I know the batt warranty is 1 year. So if my car is after one year old, den happen the batt got problem, or batt flat. Do I call SC to replace it for FOC or just replace it myself with my own pay? Although battery seems a common problem, 1 day over warranty,they will not replace FOC battery. Without a dead battery,they also will not entertain a replacement. This is a real bummer, we know the original battery does not last,but until it dies they will not replace. The French are damn stingy!
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ May 27 2013, 07:11 PM) So shall I purposely make it dead before warranty end?  Tell me,I also want.
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Termibait @ May 27 2013, 07:23 PM) Try revv the engine ordeive at least 160km constantly for 1 hour. Then dont start ur engine for 2 or 3days.. Maybe tge fan will draw the battery energy until it drains out. The above could lead to dead battery..... Doesn't work la bro. Last month drove Pen/KL,most of the time 180 - 200kmh. Only a Golf GTI ahead of me,tailed him most of the way. One month already,battery still kicking strong.
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SKYjack
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May 27 2013, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(Termibait @ May 27 2013, 08:20 PM) Hahaha.. just a suggestion. Hehehe.....you just tembak la! Actually forgot to mention,when engine revved,the battery gets a good strong charge. In fact leaving all lights on,interior & exterior, for a few days without driving the car might do the trick! This post has been edited by SKYjack: May 27 2013, 08:55 PM
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SKYjack
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May 28 2013, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(roadrunnerPenang @ May 27 2013, 10:31 PM) Only now I know the Yokohama is Local company...the name is really give me a thought is Japanese company...if no signal of battery dead...how ler...want to go outstation also scare...so far based on the response I saw all < 1 year  The greatest battery killer is start/stop/start/stop. Every startup is a heavy draw on the battery. Then a short trip does not recharge the battery sufficiently. So if you potter around city with several stops everyday,the battery will not be fully charged. You actually run the risk of quick death of battery by only city drives. A long distance run will give the battery a good charge. So don't worry,take your Lion for a good run. She'll be in better health after the run!
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SKYjack
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May 28 2013, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(robinyan @ May 28 2013, 09:23 AM) Why they can't do a replacement for us? I don't think so SC they cannot detect that our car battery is draining out already right? They should be able to anticipate it and change it for us before our lion breakdown in the middle of no where. Also, this will help them to provide an overall good customer experience as well. Testing the battery voltage does not indicate condition. The problem with wet cell batteries is that the voltage output remains constant throughout it's life,then it takes a nose dive very quickly at the end. The best condition test is a specific gravity check of the electrolyte. Unfortunately we can't do this test on our battery cos it a sealed unit. This the main disadvantage of the maintenance free battery. If you want to be able to check battery condition,you must change to non-free maintenance battery. Get your self a hygrometer. It's just a suction pump with a float that has specific gravity readings. By sucking a bit of the electrolyte into the hygrometer,the float indicates electrolyte SG. Weak SG indicates dying battery. Normal SG indicates good battery. As I said earlier,unless the battery is dead,they will not change it. People like me got only a few days left for warranty to expire. Already feeling the brining hole in my pocket! This post has been edited by SKYjack: May 28 2013, 10:41 AM
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SKYjack
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May 28 2013, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(WCF3259 @ May 28 2013, 04:22 PM) This AT8 4 speeder GB has proven reliability? AT8 replaces the AL4. So far no complaints from the NA boys. I believe 208 and 308Vti also come with this GB. Maintenance on the AT8 is cheaper than the 6spd Aisin.
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SKYjack
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May 28 2013, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(robinyan @ May 28 2013, 06:50 PM) I feel you bro, have you tried your luck to check with Nasim if they can do a replacement? No harm trying bro. You're right,I'll give it a shot.Tks!
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SKYjack
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May 28 2013, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ May 28 2013, 11:46 AM) I had the chance to test drive my friends Citroen C5 last week. The interior is nice,but different,luxury is very apparent. High dashboard gave the car a more saloon feel as oppose to a sporty feel on the 408. Steering was light, lacked feel and feedback marginally. That made up for slightly better ride over pot holes,felt a little less harsh. This is certainly a trade off on handling,there is slight body roll. Power wise about the same although the 408t has a few more horses under the hood.C5s alloy wheels are strikingly beautiful. The car is 55K more than the 408t,much of this cost goes towards the luxury cabin trim. I guess you must want a C5 bad enough to pay the extra. If I had to choose again,it will certainly be the Pug,especially since the EP6CDTM is proving reliable. C5 comes with EP6CDT. I guess if one wants a great handling sporty sedan,408t is the answer. If marginally better comfort is needed with luxury trim,then Citroen C5 is the one. This post has been edited by SKYjack: May 28 2013, 09:48 PM
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SKYjack
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May 29 2013, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ May 28 2013, 10:27 PM) Yeap, u r right. C5 is segment D while 408 is Segment C. I think what SKYjack means is he will rather choose 408 than spending additional 55k on C5.  Spot on This post has been edited by SKYjack: May 29 2013, 09:33 AM
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SKYjack
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May 29 2013, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 28 2013, 11:25 PM) My colleague is still driving his 308 VTi (first batch) until today......close to 4 years, i think. No issues. He said just make sure you follow the maintenance schedule and use the proper ATF. I verified with him before I made my booking for the 208. Oh yes,there are plenty of AL4 gb,running around without any problems. My friends 2003 Renault Megane,still running very well. He does a lot of preventive maintenance. Gb oil change every year or 30K km without fail.
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SKYjack
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May 29 2013, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ May 28 2013, 10:25 PM) C5 goes hand in hand with 508, not 408. 408 has the size of a 407 but are sold as a class C here. C5 and 508 are class D offering by PSA. I think i'm right  With C5s level of luxury certainly D segment. I should have said,would I pay extra 55k for this car! Some would,I wouldn't! This post has been edited by SKYjack: May 29 2013, 09:41 AM
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SKYjack
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May 29 2013, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ May 29 2013, 09:39 AM) GB oil change every year? That was just my friends preventive maintenance. The actual schedule is longer. His 10 year old gb was smooth and he never had an issue.
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SKYjack
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May 29 2013, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ May 29 2013, 03:33 PM) i think my maths is failing at one moment, someone is telling me the car only has 30000 kms on it and every 4 months the car needs to be services? as far as i can remember, the service manual says 10000kms or every 6 months, whichever comes first  Good point. From this you know this is just a cock n bull shit!
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SKYjack
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May 30 2013, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(robinyan @ May 30 2013, 10:38 AM) I don't bother to waste my time with this type of person. Last year was the K5 clown,now this idiot! You are right,just ignore him! This K5 clown kena bantai from so many at other threads also, cos of his stupid remarks....hehehe.
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