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jasonloh7906
post Jan 26 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 26 2013, 05:07 PM)
I accept the premium price as a fee to pay for knowledge transfer tongue.gif

Their turbocharging kit is not bad too. RM8k includes Garrett GT2052, intercooler, SS piggyback, 4 injectors, hot bits exhaust system. Guaranteed minimum 50% hp increase. I tried to negotiate stage by stage installation, they wouldn't do it. I don't have 8K cash to dispose at the moment.

Also the drawback is, interface cable and software for piggyback system is not provided. Engineers like me would prefer to tinkle on my own.
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lol. Is ok, you are paying XD
I think I will go for NA, for me, if currently I am having 80 whp, I think if I can get the official figure of 110 is very sufficient for me edi.
hahaha, well, I do regret not going to study automotive engineering somehow. but then, their fees is too high also.
TC is good lah, but u will need a piggback system. how much is your car mileage?
u should do it only after warranty if u ask me.
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post Jan 26 2013, 05:24 PM

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80whp to 110whp requires some effort on NA. At least yours is a manual, my lousy AT with only 70% power transfer efficiency, wait long long for NA mods to reach 110whp. Hence I'm actually quite impressed with firestorm, the regular firestorm is very value for money, super sized ones pushes it over the border.

Mileage is now 14800KM.

Changing to iridium is noticeable for me. Revs are very smooth all the way up. When there's chance, I'll get another 0-100kph reading from my car with Iridium spark plugs.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 26 2013, 05:24 PM)
80whp to 110whp requires some effort on NA. At least yours is a manual, my lousy AT with only 70% power transfer efficiency, wait long long for NA mods to reach 110whp. Hence I'm actually quite impressed with firestorm, the regular firestorm is very value for money, super sized ones pushes it over the border.

Mileage is now 14800KM.

Changing to iridium is noticeable for me. Revs are very smooth all the way up. When there's chance, I'll get another 0-100kph reading from my car with Iridium spark plugs.
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but can the campro engine internal stand the turbo for long distance driving? lata drive from johor to penang thn on the way explode
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post Jan 26 2013, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Jan 26 2013, 05:26 PM)
but can the campro engine internal stand the turbo for long distance driving? lata drive from johor to penang thn on the way explode
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Speedworks said Campro can withstand up to 0.7 bar boost on stock internals even if whacked all the way from KL to Penang. If long distance reliability is not a concern, the internals can take 0.8-0.9 bar of boost.
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post Jan 26 2013, 05:53 PM

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ytd TT apa seklet?cakap tentang turbocharge lepas las nite TT...d nex time i attend TT confirm got 1 or 2 turbochargedsona liao... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 26 2013, 05:53 PM)
ytd TT apa seklet?cakap tentang turbocharge lepas las nite TT...d nex time i attend TT confirm got 1 or 2 turbochargedsona liao... whistling.gif
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i think turbocharged saga also got liao laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 26 2013, 05:29 PM)
Speedworks said Campro can withstand up to 0.7 bar boost on stock internals even if whacked all the way from KL to Penang. If long distance reliability is not a concern, the internals can take 0.8-0.9 bar of boost.
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woww.... thn speedworks got tune turbo anot.... i want up the boost to 1 bar blush.gif
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post Jan 26 2013, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 26 2013, 05:24 PM)
80whp to 110whp requires some effort on NA. At least yours is a manual, my lousy AT with only 70% power transfer efficiency, wait long long for NA mods to reach 110whp. Hence I'm actually quite impressed with firestorm, the regular firestorm is very value for money, super sized ones pushes it over the border.

Mileage is now 14800KM.

Changing to iridium is noticeable for me. Revs are very smooth all the way up. When there's chance, I'll get another 0-100kph reading from my car with Iridium spark plugs.
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nope. mine is auto. same as you. well, it is just a matter of target. 110whp is very very sufficient for me. if can I don't mind increasing all my torque without increasing my hp. let's say I am now at 70hp, i might need to do some mods to get to 90hp. just like what hammie did, his persona is 108hp IINM. stock is 90hp for manual. so i suppose his gain is around 18hp. I personally think that the correct way of tuning and modding will give the correct power/torque increase. not like any modding products in the market also throw in. For example, during last nite TT the so called mini turbo which is a waste of money proven. So, do consider before buying from the mini turbo product from "aisketul".

speaking about iridium, yesterday, SiuYi mentioned about the usage of platinum and iridium plug compatibality with NGV. u better clarify with him as detonation will cause your engine to blow one day.

QUOTE(Manlet @ Jan 26 2013, 05:26 PM)
but can the campro engine internal stand the turbo for long distance driving? lata drive from johor to penang thn on the way explode
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unless you are full throttling at the highway, somehow is ok. cruising on highway somehow have less damage than driving in city IMO. Due to wacking from standstill to high speed all the time, the engine become even hotter, while cruising on highway u have constant amount of wind cooling the engine also. if worry about long term, it is best to upgrade everthing to forged one. as proton did in their CFE.

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 26 2013, 05:29 PM)
Speedworks said Campro can withstand up to 0.7 bar boost on stock internals even if whacked all the way from KL to Penang. If long distance reliability is not a concern, the internals can take 0.8-0.9 bar of boost.
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if u don't intend to use the car for long, high boosting also no problem. but then, camproturbo.com actually have been TC for many years edi. he actually teaches how to drive properly to ensure your car to be undamaged.
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post Jan 26 2013, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 26 2013, 05:53 PM)
ytd TT apa seklet?cakap tentang turbocharge lepas las nite TT...d nex time i attend TT confirm got 1 or 2 turbochargedsona liao... whistling.gif
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yesterday test firestorm and also proven another mini turbo device to be absolute useless.

QUOTE(Manlet @ Jan 26 2013, 05:55 PM)
i think turbocharged saga also got liao laugh.gif
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common lah. ur turbo is very good liao. if u want to tune, go EA buy the race chip.
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Jan 26 2013, 05:59 PM)
yesterday test firestorm and also proven another mini turbo device to be absolute useless.
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post Jan 26 2013, 08:18 PM

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Among the NGV community, using platinum or iridium plugs are bad because it requires higher sparking voltage especially for the hard to ignite CNG, putting undue stress on the ignition coils.

Hearsay is that using those plugs stalls the engine easily.

Somehow it's just great for me. CNG is at RON 120-130. Never need to worry about preignition.
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Hi Persona Owners,

Would like to ask a quick question as per below:-

Any idea on the weight of a 2011 H-Line stock rim ?

I tried calling COSE & even spoke to 2 staff at R3 Division there but they're unable to tell me ...


Reason: I'd like to know how much in " kg " I would be saving if I were to upgrade to R3's 16"

Really keen on this upgrade but I'd like to know before spending RM2K.

Any sifu out there that could assist me ... Would really appreciate the help because nobody at COSE seems to know the answer to my question.

Sorry in advance for asking what would seem like a really noob question.


Thanks a bunch ! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 26 2013, 09:56 PM

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The R3 rim isn't lightweight. If you think your investment is to reduce weight, you should be looking at other lightweight rims.
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post Jan 26 2013, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 26 2013, 09:56 PM)
The R3 rim isn't lightweight. If you think your investment is to reduce weight, you should be looking at other lightweight rims.
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Hi Mengsuan,

Thanks for your reply. But one of the staff at R3 division told me it is much lighter than the stock. Although he can't give me black and white stats SIGH.
Any recommendations on shop(s) selling Original / Branded lightweight rims ? I heard from friends' experience that Taiwan replicas are a gamble.

I was looking at the below shop: Not sure on their supply though. Thanks again for your feedback !


TEK MING AUTO SERVICE SDN BHD
No.1 & 3 Jalan PJS11/24,
Bandar Sunway Industrial Park,
46150 Subang Jaya,
Selangor Darul Ehsan.

LOCATION (GPS CODE: 3.067236,101.602369)



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post Jan 26 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(racekiddo @ Jan 26 2013, 10:18 PM)
Hi Mengsuan,

Thanks for your reply. But one of the staff at R3 division told me it is much lighter than the stock. Although he can't give me black and white stats SIGH.
Any recommendations on shop(s) selling Original / Branded lightweight rims ? I heard from friends' experience that Taiwan replicas are a gamble.

I was looking at the below shop: Not sure on their supply though.  Thanks again for your feedback !
TEK MING AUTO SERVICE SDN BHD
No.1 & 3 Jalan PJS11/24,
Bandar Sunway Industrial Park,
46150 Subang Jaya,
Selangor Darul Ehsan. 

LOCATION (GPS CODE: 3.067236,101.602369)
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exact weight cannot be sure. but then, R3 rims the 16'' one is almost the same as the stock rims.
if wanna go for weight reduction, go for ultra light weight series. buying replicas is a gamble, but buying made in taiwan itself rims are not.

try here.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1481838&hl=
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post Jan 26 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Jan 26 2013, 11:41 PM)
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post Jan 26 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Jan 26 2013, 04:42 PM)
can install de mah. ur standard car also cheaper. the balance is for u to change things. hahaha~~
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If wan to add oso add boot tray first..

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 26 2013, 05:07 PM)
I accept the premium price as a fee to pay for knowledge transfer tongue.gif

Their turbocharging kit is not bad too. RM8k includes Garrett GT2052, intercooler, SS piggyback, 4 injectors, hot bits exhaust system. Guaranteed minimum 50% hp increase. I tried to negotiate stage by stage installation, they wouldn't do it. I don't have 8K cash to dispose at the moment.

Also the drawback is, interface cable and software for piggyback system is not provided. Engineers like me would prefer to tinkle on my own.
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They don't wan to open ur car so many times ma..
Mod satu Kali more easy icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Jan 26 2013, 05:59 PM)
yesterday test firestorm and also proven another mini turbo device to be absolute useless.
common lah. ur turbo is very good liao. if u want to tune, go EA buy the race chip.
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Race chip apa itu?
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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Jan 26 2013, 11:55 PM)
Race chip apa itu?
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kind of like a piggy back or an EFR or a mix of both or something similar
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another type of piggyback.

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