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post Sep 1 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Helius @ Sep 1 2013, 02:03 PM)
Bro.. Steady... This is the one &  only forest township which combine natural and home/ office together...

Ppl are buying through internal staff with under table money for good view I heard....
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Under table? Wow...open corruption. So IJM encourages corruption among the staff?

This is getting messy...hmmm...
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post Sep 1 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(C&D @ Sep 1 2013, 02:42 PM)
Wrong.
Of course the Govt can do something - don't you know everything you go through today is a direct/indirect impact of Govt policies?
It's about the policies they implement to govern property dealings.
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of course govt can do many thing...like impose every child to have muslim name....chinese, tamil and english sounded name not allowed (like in indonesia)....
or all projects must have malay names...english name not allowed and etc...

but would it be popular restriction?

anywhere like I said, internal staff booking or relationship booking...as public purchasers, we are the last in the group to buy anywhere.......you can impose say 20-30% max staff purchasing, but does this ensure you that the company cant presell to any parties prior to public releases?
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post Sep 1 2013, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 1 2013, 02:49 PM)
of course govt can do many thing...like impose every child to have muslim name....chinese, tamil and english sounded name not allowed (like in indonesia)....
or all projects must have malay names...english name not allowed and etc...

but would it be popular restriction?

anywhere like I said, internal staff booking or relationship booking...as public purchasers, we are the last in the group to buy anywhere.......you can impose say 20-30% max staff purchasing, but does this ensure you that the company cant presell to any parties prior to public releases?
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"Popular restriction" does not equal to effective and right policies.

"anywhere like I said, internal staff booking or relationship booking...as public purchasers, we are the last in the group to buy anywhere" - anywhere here refers to Malaysia I reckon. Well, have you looked at what other countries do?

That last sentence in your para - it's all about implementation + monitoring...
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post Sep 1 2013, 02:55 PM

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Yup... It happened everywhere... Malaysia is still a bolehland for all mission impossible....
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Helius @ Aug 29 2013, 12:01 PM)
This I'm very sure as info I got with land office... If u have vested in saville bangsar, u could get runner to search for the title which stated " Freehold" .... But a BUMI quota of 50:50 stated in title...

Developer has managed to secure 70% allocation to non BUMI in last 2 months only... So when title issued, land title / strata title will quote as " freehold"...  But consent needed for MOT....

That is y many thought is was a MRL, in fact which is not... And consent needed as leasehold properties in KV....
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If freehold, there is no need for consent for MOT

Because it's MRL (freehold), that's why there is need to get consent for MOT so as to meet the bumi requirement

So this is MRL, nothing to do with freehold or leasehold
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:04 PM

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we can argue until the cow comes home, but bear in mind that we are 3rd world country....not developed country yet...
u look at other countries, 99 years lishold is good already....i know some countries only allowed 60yrs or 33 years lease nia...

implementation is one thing...monitoring and imposing fine are another things.

just look at SOVO/FO thing to get pass LTV...such a big loophole..... vmad.gif
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(C&D @ Sep 1 2013, 02:44 PM)
Under table? Wow...open corruption. So IJM encourages corruption among the staff?

This is getting messy...hmmm...
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Other developer company polices on staff purchase is:

1) quota on the number of units available for staff. Say total project units 300 and staff quota is 10% then staff only can book 30 units. If 40% of the units are good view then still have 30% good view unit after staff allocation.

2) Staff must sign S&P either in their own name or join name with another person. So the only profit opportunity is for the staff to JV with a third party

3) Staff not allow to book and then transfer name to third party


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post Sep 1 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(C&D @ Sep 1 2013, 01:54 PM)
Seriously - this is stupid.

They expect the public to buy those crap units facing the flats? I mean - who would buy there to stay or even to invest? If one buys from 2nd hand market, why in the world would I choose this place (which is alright only to start with) which face the flats???

Frankly, as an investor, I think all this nonsense selling to internal staff first and all is so unhealthy. The Govt should really put a stop to this!!! Nonsense.

Will now walk away from this project...
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I admire your style bro. I'm new to property investment and the only developer that has been fair is only YTL where everyone has to queue for it inclusive of internal staff, no funny booking first. SPS as well with balloting or first come first serve basis. Please share if there's other good developer out there.

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Vote with your money. You can always choose not to buy their products. Its not like condos are scarce in KL.
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(shawnk @ Sep 1 2013, 03:17 PM)
I admire your style bro. I'm new to property investment and the only developer that has been fair is only YTL where everyone has to queue for it inclusive of internal staff, no funny booking first. SPS as well with balloting or first come first serve basis. Please share if there's other good developer out there.
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YTL only selected projects......and recently only...not like this is embedded in their corp DNA.
SPS same also.....
if you wanted to buy Eco Setia Park....see if they follow this rule as golden thumb or not!
Most choice units or corner units kena blocked off....as usual.....

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Sep 1 2013, 03:42 PM
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:47 PM

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Prior bookings by staff n biz associate is norm nowadays
V need to accept dis fact n move forward
Otherwise sub sale is d target


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post Sep 1 2013, 05:49 PM

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Putting aside the speculative element,, I would like to buy property where the staff are also keen to buy. And if I work in developer firm, I expect to have slight advantage to choose unit compared to public. But it is understandable that it's not easy to define 'fair'.

Beside that, I am trying to understand pricing on this area. ..UOA Southview, freehold with Lrt but high density, seem to have similar price level with this project. . which would you choose?

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Just visited UOA South View. Wow sales quite impressive.

About developer selling to internal staff. I think generally most developers think this is their private affairs and they want to "benefit" their staffs. UOA has 3 or 4 floors for staff in South View Block A.

I think developers should prioritise STAFF THAT HAVEN'T GOT HOME. Haha. We should not be encouraging staff becoming an illegal Agent to speculators.

This post has been edited by accetera: Sep 1 2013, 08:07 PM
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post Sep 1 2013, 08:40 PM

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Developer giving internal staff with pre booking or discount is 1 of the staff benefit for developer staffs... It practice in all developer companies in Malaysia...
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post Sep 2 2013, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 28 2013, 09:54 PM)
Can non-bumi buy malay reserve land?
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Normally the developer will fight for certain percentage for non-bumi. So its depends
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Sep 1 2013, 03:09 PM)
Other developer company polices on staff purchase is:

1) quota on the number of units available for staff. Say total project units 300 and staff quota is 10% then staff only can book 30 units. If 40% of the units are good view then still have 30% good view unit after staff allocation.

2) Staff must sign S&P either in their own name or join name with another person. So the only profit opportunity is for the staff to JV with a third party

3) Staff not allow to book and then transfer name to third party
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Yes, this is what I am talking about - a much better approach.
Nothing against selling to staff - but for the right reasons. I also know of several developers who do this, so all good.

But in this case, it allows the staff to take under-table $$$ (based on the posting, not from me), and thereafter, leave crap units to con the public. I mean - seriously???

So yup, there are many good condos in KV - this one is out.
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post Sep 2 2013, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(jonathandeho @ Sep 2 2013, 12:46 AM)
Normally the developer will fight for certain percentage for non-bumi. So its depends
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Wat is d success rate?
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post Sep 3 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 2 2013, 09:06 PM)
Wat is d success rate?
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Cant tell.
Some can get 50-50, some even getting 70-30 quota
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post Sep 5 2013, 01:37 PM

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Most MRL quota 50:50 only...

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