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 Genneva Malaysia V4, Raided on 1st October 2012

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post Mar 15 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Mar 13 2013, 11:55 AM)
Same ol bullshit repeatedly.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/genneva-mala...350156878435543
WTF is that even supposed to mean? What experience? What, exactly, is the background of the directors and the people behind Genneva? They all claim to have some experience in gold mining and trading but have not actually been able to supply actual proof. What gold mines? Where? Which country? Has anyone bothered to check or verify? Also, Poh Kong has already denied Ng Poh Weng's claim that he was formerly a founder.

Sometimes ppl forget that extraordinary claim need extraordinary evidence, malaysian education have made us stupid. If KFC claim their combo meal can make me look 11 years younger with their 11 secret herbs and spices and charges me with the chicken's weight in gold, i will definately as what secret spice is that. But too late, got cheated, lesson learned for me.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Mar 15 2013, 12:02 AM)
Dee Casey is back biggrin.gif

during CNY, say JR file immediately after CNY

now they can say JR will file immediately after Easter

wow... how many special occasions they have *celebrated* together as 1GennevaFamily, how romantic
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I guess not many people paid the RM50.00 contribution, that is why the JR is postponed. Not enough to go around the organizers.. That is why Corine Lim's questions with regards to Order 60 Rule 3(6) does not warrant any reply from the experts.

All those fellas championing the police reports, then JR forms are now silent!!! Germaine G asked a few times with regards to the money.. NO ONE answered ??? Who is holding the money?? Which PROMINENT law firm is filing for them? It is Friday.. guess it will be filed after or during Ching Ming season??

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post Mar 15 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(timsook @ Mar 15 2013, 09:31 AM)
I guess not many people paid the RM50.00 contribution, that is why the JR is postponed. Not enough to go around the organizers.. That is why Corine Lim's questions with regards to Order 60 Rule 3(6) does not warrant any reply from the experts.

All those fellas championing the police reports, then JR forms are now silent!!! Germaine G asked a few times with regards to the money.. NO ONE answered ??? Who is holding the money?? Which PROMINENT law firm is filing for them? It is Friday.. guess it will be filed after or during Ching Ming season??

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Collect not enuf RM50 izzit??? Nvr mind,can sell sheep data collected to another gold 'trading' Co.They sure pay high $$$ coz these ppl easy tgt:)
arubin
post Mar 15 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Mar 15 2013, 12:02 AM)
Dee Casey is back biggrin.gif

during CNY, say JR file immediately after CNY

now they can say JR will file immediately after Easter

wow... how many special occasions they have *celebrated* together as 1GennevaFamily, how romantic
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And you know what the day immediately after Easter is? rclxm9.gif

Edit: I don't see anything regarding the Easter deadline on the GMS page. Deleted post?

This post has been edited by arubin: Mar 15 2013, 11:14 AM
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post Mar 15 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Mar 15 2013, 11:03 AM)
And you know what the day immediately after Easter is?  rclxm9.gif

Edit: I don't see anything regarding the Easter deadline on the GMS page. Deleted post?
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After Easter there is Labour day on 1st May.
debbierowe
post Mar 16 2013, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Mar 15 2013, 11:03 AM)
And you know what the day immediately after Easter is?  rclxm9.gif

Edit: I don't see anything regarding the Easter deadline on the GMS page. Deleted post?
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lol... no la.. easter is what i said to tease them only
since they have been greeting ppl since deepavali biggrin.gif

betting on, next in ban list is that Corine Lim laugh.gif

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terry8
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These directors think that they can hide under the "Sdn Bhd" of Genneva. I am glad someone took action. attached below is the comment from a lawyer who acted on behalf of one of his client and they sued the directors and consultant as well - Yeah ! Their case will start in April - faster that their supposed JR. I got this from the comments in the Disgruntled Genneva Customers FB site. Investors out there - TAKE ACTION NOW ! Sue them.

"FROM LAWYER ALFRED:

Yesterday, together with one of the investor we represent, we meet up with one of the director of an gold investment company and their main consultant to negotiate the terms of payment for the invested amount of RM280,000. Yes, the director had to come meet us personally to try to resolve our woes.

Thinking that the company of a Sdn Bhd and that it was widely known BNM had raided and frozen all related bank accounts, never had they expect that by we represent our client, the investor, were we able to find means to sue not only the company but on the director personally and the consultant. Initially, they had ignore our client, the even ignore the letter of demand that we had issued. Thinking that they could use BNM as an excuse to fences off any demand or litigation, never had they expect that our client would eventually allow us to file several cases at once and had the court date all set in early April next month.

Although, the consultant, as usual, will maintain his innocent and throughout the negotiation repeatedly stated that he is only willing to negotiate due to friendship with our client, to help him as our client is desperate and not for any other reasons. We had an hour of negotiation. During this hour, I could feel that it was is longest hour the consultant and the director ever had. Being able to brush aside with logical and lawful argument all their excuses they keep throwing, they are infact panic. Because we had made them realize that hat we could touch them and touch them where the hurt most. Because of our tactics, it would utterly destroy their BNM shield and the joyful hope of the consultant that he is immune since he is not the director. He was wrong, dead wrong.

The terms they had provided to repay the investment in installment was not a good deal because they could not put up any form of collateral while the amount is being repaid. However, we will always respect our client to accept the offer or not since the consultant was his friend and he was close to the director. Either way, we vowed to continue to protect the investor's interest whether the deal is to be accepted or not. Now the ball is on the hands of the directors and the consultant. Will they offer a better deal of repayment or they will battle us in court where their fate has already been seal by us long before the 1st hearing on the 10th April 2013.

I, myself and my associate have no quarrel with any of the consultant nor the directors of these dodgy companies. However, I would always have to hold my anger when they try to turn the ball around by claiming that they are only helping the investors to get their money back and to listen to all their excuses. These investors would never had got burn in the 1st place if it wasn't because of them. Would a friend ensure that you to walk over a road knowingly that you would eventually fall in a pot-hole in the 1st place? These people claim that they will hold your hands while walking up the tough road. The fact is while you struggling downhill they would just observe by standing across the street next to an ATM, enjoying the fruits of from your demise."

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Mar 17 2013, 08:47 PM)
These directors think that they can hide under the "Sdn Bhd" of Genneva. I am glad someone took action. attached below is the comment from a lawyer who acted on behalf of one of his client and they sued the directors and consultant as well - Yeah ! Their case will start in April - faster that their supposed JR. I got this from the comments in the Disgruntled Genneva Customers FB site. Investors out there - TAKE ACTION NOW ! Sue them.

"FROM LAWYER ALFRED:

Yesterday, together with one of the investor we represent, we meet up with one of the director of an gold investment company and their main consultant to negotiate the terms of payment for the invested amount of RM280,000. Yes, the director had to come meet us personally to try to resolve our woes.

Thinking that the company of a Sdn Bhd and that it was widely known BNM had raided and frozen all related bank accounts, never had they expect that by we represent our client, the investor, were we able to find means to sue not only the company but on the director personally and the consultant. Initially, they had ignore our client, the even ignore the letter of demand that we had issued. Thinking that they could use BNM as an excuse to fences off any demand or litigation, never had they expect that our client would eventually allow us to file several cases at once and had the court date all set in early April next month.

Although, the consultant, as usual, will maintain his innocent and throughout the negotiation repeatedly stated that he is only willing to negotiate due to friendship with our client, to help him as our client is desperate and not for any other reasons. We had an hour of negotiation. During this hour, I could feel that it was is longest hour the consultant and the director ever had. Being able to brush aside with logical and lawful argument all their excuses they keep throwing, they are infact panic. Because we had made them realize that hat we could touch them and touch them where the hurt most. Because of our tactics, it would utterly destroy their BNM shield and the joyful hope of the consultant that he is immune since he is not the director. He was wrong, dead wrong.

The terms they had provided to repay the investment in installment was not a good deal because they could not put up any form of collateral while the amount is being repaid. However, we will always respect our client to accept the offer or not since the consultant was his friend and he was close to the director. Either way, we vowed to continue to protect the investor's interest whether the deal is to be accepted or not. Now the ball is on the hands of the directors and the consultant. Will they offer a better deal of repayment or they will battle us in court where their fate has already been seal by us long before the 1st hearing on the 10th April 2013.

I, myself and my associate have no quarrel with any of the consultant nor the directors of these dodgy companies. However, I would always have to hold my anger when they try to turn the ball around by claiming that they are only helping the investors to get their money back and to listen to all their excuses. These investors would never had got burn in the 1st place if it wasn't because of them. Would a friend ensure that you to walk over a road knowingly that you would eventually fall in a pot-hole in the 1st place? These people claim that they will hold your hands while walking up the tough road. The fact is while you struggling downhill they would just observe by standing across the street next to an ATM, enjoying the fruits of from your demise."

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post Mar 18 2013, 10:57 AM

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Nice to see that someone has finally decided to hire a lawyer to sue GMSB and their consultant. Its what I and many others have suggested ages ago - sue. Looks like he will be getting a separate settlement and his money back sooner than those idiots waiting around for a JR. Good for him. thumbup.gif

The English is rather dodgy though. It might seem correct and even like 'powderful England' to the average Malaysian but there were enough grammatical errors in it to make me wince while reading it. Has the standard of English fallen so far in this country that even our lawyers are incapable of using the Queen's English?

On a related note, I wonder what happened to that little group who went to UMNO for the free lawyer...

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On a related note, I wonder what happened to that little group who went to UMNO for the free lawyer...
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Good things don't come free. FREE things don't come good. Lawyer is deficient in England. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 18 2013, 12:26 PM

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So how the Geneva status now?

I hear najib hv return those gold Back To inventor

Due to election coming?

Is this True?
debbierowe
post Mar 18 2013, 06:10 PM

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I kesian the sheeps at GMSB page still attend the "world tour" of How To Get Your Gold & Money back JR saga. Nonetheless, they sure refuse to look at disgruntled page.

Any updates from the 9 suing GMSB?
they had a court date on 1st March

KUALA LUMPUR 30 Jan. - Mahkamah Tinggi di sini hari ini menetapkan 1 Mac depan bagi pengurusan kes saman sembilan pelabur terhadap Genneva Malaysia Sdn. Bhd. (Genneva) dan empat pengarahnya melibatkan wang pelaburan lebih RM2 juta.

Artikel Penuh: http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/Mahkamah/2...a#ixzz2NsxfqmM3
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debbierowe
post Mar 20 2013, 03:53 AM

so fast 6 stars di...
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**this week theme**

The Silenced JR


HHAHAHHAHHAH I KNOW WHY THE SILENCE... OH no... Now who they gonna vote, PR? BN? they got so many millions votes why not they start their own party 1Genneva
maybe then Malaysia will be like UK now, hung parliament, 3 parties rule together gether biggrin.gif

the story begins... for JR Nationwide tour..

Melaka Tour next... anticipation and all... then silence...

see the excitement
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then the Press Conference turn out like this... I wonder if Pat Lu was at the scene... she didn't go bite this YB on her neck?

http://www.orientaldaily.com.my/index.php?...6%3A&Itemid=114

(马六甲19日讯)行动党甲市区国会议员沈同钦建议金玉华黄金投资者与代理结合力量,集体向公司施压,以取得计划最新进展。
Customers should focus & stay united on pressuring GMSB

沈同钦今午接见约30名甲州金玉华黄金投资计划购买者与代理时清楚表明,他无法,也没有立场直接向国家银行或者金玉华公司交涉,处理买者与金玉华或国行之间的事务。
YB said she is not in the position to negotiate with BNM or GMSB to settle matters between Customers & GMSB & BNM.

他表示,根据他在国会里针对这项投计划提出的询问,国会的回答仅是指金玉华资產负于债务,因此不可继续操作。
YB said, when she questioned this in the parliament, it is said that GMSB liability >9999999 assets so has to be cease operation.

他说,当金玉华被国家银行等四造查封后,买者与代理曾向该公司高层交涉,唯对方指银行所查封与冻结的黄金与款项,都是属于买者与代理的,唯国家银行到现在没有公佈进一步的调查结果,使买者与代理都感到不满。
YB said, when GMSB got raided, customers should be contacting the management and directors of GMSB, it should be between them & GMSB.
The only thing from BNM is the investigation has taken too long and hence causing dissatisfaction.

他强调,此事件上,国行必须向金玉华的客户与代理交代清楚所有查封的黄金与现款的处境,金玉华若身为负责任的企业,也必须出示所有交易的记录,以证明所有被查封的资產是客户与代理的,对方並没有任何隱瞒。
He (YB) said, BNM should clarify with GMSB's customers about the status of the Gold & Money. GMSB on the other side, should also show the records of all transactions and ensure all the assets that has been raided are belongs to customers and consultants, be transparents.

「如果国家银行查封的金玉华资產都不是全属于买者的,那国家银行应该提控金玉华,买者与代理在这阶段上,便可通过法律途径申请拿回属于自己的黄金与款项,只是依据刑事法典第413条文,这些索回的財物必须暂时保留,不可变卖,直到案件审判结束。」 This part mainly talking about, when BNM charge GMSB, customers can go file 3rd Party claim.

LOL... how now...

This post has been edited by debbierowe: Mar 20 2013, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(kokanchai @ Mar 18 2013, 12:26 PM)
So how the Geneva status now?

I hear najib hv return those gold Back To inventor

Due to election coming?

Is this True?
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Inventor of gold, u mean God?
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post Mar 20 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Mar 18 2013, 10:57 AM)
Nice to see that someone has finally decided to hire a lawyer to sue GMSB and their consultant. Its what I and many others have suggested ages ago - sue. Looks like he will be getting a separate settlement and his money back sooner than those idiots waiting around for a JR. Good for him. thumbup.gif

The English is rather dodgy though. It might seem correct and even like 'powderful England' to the average Malaysian but there were enough grammatical errors in it to make me wince while reading it. Has the standard of English fallen so far in this country that even our lawyers are incapable of using the Queen's English?

On a related note, I wonder what happened to that little group who went to UMNO for the free lawyer...
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That guy is paralegal, not a lawyer..so no need to speak like prince charles

This post has been edited by rzkb: Mar 20 2013, 01:23 PM
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There is a difference between ignorant and stupidity, and Pat Lu has both.
Ignorant to the fact that the directors are quiet about it and refuses to show their own accounting books to counter BNM 'Lies'.

Pat Lu, if you're reading this.
God has a special place for you in hell, level 19. Newly created level just for you coz you've victimize the victims over and over again.

And if JR fails,
I bet the RM50 will be gone coz they need it for their 'World Tour'
Probably Pat Lu son was paid a good 'salary' just to carry mommy's bag,

I hope the victims will wake up and sue Pat Lu and unmask that Dee Casey,
later DC turns out to be one of the directors... or maybe her own son.


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Strong supporter like Precious Gold also begin to fight back:

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The dead silence & zero response & No Updates from ADMIN ( who push hard & sell hard the JR idea to us ) on the actual Date to submit & file our JR at the High Court is most disappointing & alarming . Is Admin going in another agenda ? Has ADMIN learn the art of "Silence Is Golden" from the Directors of GSBM & Gold-Beam. IF NO JR ACTION FROM ADMIN , WE DEMAND HELPDESK & ADMIN TO RETURN BACK ALL OUR LEGAL FEES (Rm 50 each ) TO US !!!
RETURN BACK TO US !!!

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Mar 20 2013, 03:52 PM)
Strong supporter like Precious Gold also begin to fight back:
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one by one, slowly has awakened..
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QUOTE(dreamKrusher @ Mar 21 2013, 01:40 AM)
one by one, slowly has awakened..
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Many awake long time ago, the only problem is Pat Lu kept on deleting these kind of comments.
Not sure what happened to her lately, so slumber.
I guess she doesn't trust others to monitor the page and she is the only admin there...
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QUOTE(Salvador_Dali @ Mar 21 2013, 02:31 PM)
Many awake long time ago, the only problem is Pat Lu kept on deleting these kind of comments.
Not sure what happened to her lately, so slumber.
I guess she doesn't trust others to monitor the page and she is the only admin there...
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Shereen also stopped posting recently, and she used to be so active.

Still, the post on the Melaka meeting is quite happening in the comments section. I am quite surprised that they haven't been deleted yet.

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