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timsook
post Mar 11 2013, 10:50 AM

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You do not buy gold unless you have spare cash! I was exchanging views with a few individuals over this Buy GOLD thingy.

First one tells me he is from an Investment House in East Malaysia. They buy gold as investment for their clients. Genneva Gold is one place where they would buy their gold. (How can an investment house buy gold at 25% premium as an investment???) This is self deluding and trying to justify their action.

The other one was a lady who said, she invested into Genneva Gold because she needed to get a iPAD for her son!!! What has iPAD got to do with buying gold?? This one is pure stupidity and GREED.
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post Mar 11 2013, 10:53 AM

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Genneva Malaysia is DEAD, the filing of JR is nothing more than a plan hatched by the consultants with the hope of covering their losses with another scam to cheat the customers of their money.

Nothing is going to come out of it and they will be asking for more money very soon!!! this is a typical Nigeria Scam smile.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Feb 5 2013, 12:36 PM)
If there's any further proof needed to show that Dee is just talking out of his arse, it would be his latest argument with Cricket, who raised some very valid questions.
Since Dee refrained from answering, I'll take a stab at them.

1. If the JR is successful (yeah, right), the gold and money goes straight back to Genneva. There's no reason for it to go directly back to the customers. After all, your JR is filed on the basis of Genneva having done no wrong and not the customers being innocent victims. This is something that is explicitly stated on your police report template - you believe Genneva has done no wrong. If the judge concurs *cough*, than Genneva gets everything back.

READ before you file your report next time.

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2. Actually, no. If Genneva is charged with committing a crime, than BNM doesn't have the right to disburse anything. It will be done by a court-appointed trustee.

3. Nope. See 2.
Forfeited? No, BNM and the govt has no right to do that. Victims will be entitled to file for a claim on whatever assets are left (however little that might be). So yes, there IS a half way house...err, half is overstating it though. Based on the figures released so far, I think you have a pondok somewhere off the beaten track...
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[Cricket was subsequently banned from GMS. Cricket was my alter ego when my real account in FB was banned by Admin. vmad.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Feb 7 2013, 12:02 AM)
Haha, he was? Maybe he needed to say something in support of GMS occasionally in order to stay in favor and not be banned? I dunno lol.
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Arubin, you are very clever. Otherwise how to survive so long in there?? I was trying to ask question with the hope that some of the followers will read my questions and start asking it themselves.

So once in a while need to give support to GMS.. usually start by..

so and so.. you are absolutely correct in saying that.. followed by a load of bullshit

2 paragraph later then only come to the real question.

It got pass those fellows for a long time until I start questioning this faceless Dee Casey who is "not surprising at all" missing from the GMS pages after the call for the RM50.00 contribution smile.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Feb 7 2013, 12:02 AM)
Haha, he was? Maybe he needed to say something in support of GMS occasionally in order to stay in favor and not be banned? I dunno lol.
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Sorry la Terry.. unintentional one.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(exia5733 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:02 PM)
Cheers mate! Cricket was always like the 'hidden' 'batu api' on the Genneva FB page!

Good effort in trying to bring some kesedaran to those Gennevarian zombies though I think it was ultimately futile....
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Betul la Bro. Ultimately also kena banned. I wonder how is their JR exercise coming along? The 2 fella James Lim and James Wong, both also not heard of after they asked a whole barrage of questions with regards to the JR.

Left in there are just fellows who are champion in proposing things.. like

"Can SOMEONE organize this.. ??" "Will SOMEONE take the lead to do that..."

that is why they are scammed.. they are just too lazy to get off their butts to attempt to recover their OWN money!!! smile.gif

See what I mean by these people thinks the world owes them a living?? smile.gif rclxub.gif


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post Mar 12 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Mar 12 2013, 11:19 PM)
So I am back with my irregular visit  nod.gif Have these people filed their JR - last deadline was March 6th (of course they didnt specify which year)
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Terry, where got so easy leh??? The process needs to take a few days at least, otherwise how to ask the sheep for more money for legal fee ??
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post Mar 12 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Mar 12 2013, 11:18 PM)
Are you Cricket ???  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 14 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Mar 12 2013, 11:28 PM)
Well there were collecting police reports and money for months now. I thought their help desk were to help the victims not collect money. They even claim a "prominent" law firm is behind them - I so want to know which firm this is.
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the latest exchange this new avatar calling itself "Andy Lim" the most vocal volunteer at GMS now, said, they have a FEW legal firms but have not decided on which ones.

But they are doing data entry .. for what ?? I don't really know, if the law firm actually wants to take their case, all the information keyed in may be useless and have to be done again .. so I think the organizer there is just buying time.. prolonging the matter to give them more opportunity to bleed more money from the customers.

Like a Nigerian scam.. .>>>

1. thank you for your RM50.00 contribution. We are at the last stage of filing before all customers will get their gold..

2. 2 weeks later.. (now) Due to the overwhelming respond from all customers affected, we are delayed by the sheer volume of the JR forms and the mountainous amount of data to capture. Therefore the filing will only begin next week.

3. [Future]. We are ready for filing, as such, out contribution is insufficient to engage the best lawyer in town for this purpose. We thank you for all the contributions from the customers during the first round. As more funds are needed, we are seeking for another round of contribution of RM50.00 towards this fund to get your gold back from BNM. blah blah blah blah (actually this one started already...)

4. [further into the future]. Such and Such a lawyer from this reputable firm has agreed to take on our JR filing. However, due to the nature of the political essences surrounding this matter, this lawyer has to take the job outside his firm. His firm cannot be implicated when the JR is successful. So without the support of this firm, all the money for the filing process must come from himself first. So we must support this lawyer and we are at the last stage of getting your gold and money stuck in BNM back. As this is the LAST PUSH, we will need another contribution of RM100.00 from all customers for this to be suceessful.

5... [this will go on and on and on...] and it can go on forever because some people will believe this and never wake up.. sad.gif

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post Mar 14 2013, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Mar 12 2013, 11:43 PM)
At one time they thought you were their family
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Otherwise.. surely I will get banned quickly.

Funny is that these people are so hardup for praises , it is painful so see la..

Praise them and say how clever they are, how right they are and how WRONG is BNM and BN, and these people will bend over backwards to pull you into their "family"..

Once you ask logical questions.. that's it.. you are out.. NO MORE FRIEND!, You are asking nonsense, no logic
Just like when I finally cannot Tahan and shoot questions at the faceless fella Dee Casey.. immediately within a day ......... 1 DAY ONLY.. got banned liao..
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post Mar 15 2013, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Mar 15 2013, 12:02 AM)
Dee Casey is back biggrin.gif

during CNY, say JR file immediately after CNY

now they can say JR will file immediately after Easter

wow... how many special occasions they have *celebrated* together as 1GennevaFamily, how romantic
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I guess not many people paid the RM50.00 contribution, that is why the JR is postponed. Not enough to go around the organizers.. That is why Corine Lim's questions with regards to Order 60 Rule 3(6) does not warrant any reply from the experts.

All those fellas championing the police reports, then JR forms are now silent!!! Germaine G asked a few times with regards to the money.. NO ONE answered ??? Who is holding the money?? Which PROMINENT law firm is filing for them? It is Friday.. guess it will be filed after or during Ching Ming season??

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post Mar 23 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Mar 12 2013, 11:27 PM)
I lost count of the times I got banned hahahahahaha
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Now no need to create more avatar anymore for GMS Page, they have gotten the last bit of money from the sheep, I think, and have abandon the page. You can post any damn thing on the page and the posting were not deleted.

Since march 4, you don't hear from KE GOH, Dee Casey (he got one more posting before dissappearing), Shereen, Shanti, JL Fong etc etc.. People like the Uncle Andy Lim, still trying to justify that the horse hasn't bolted and is still in the barn. Poor fellow.. d*** Yap, trying to tell he got 7,600 supporters from one CPO, what a bunch of losers.

Chinese saying "Dead Chicken kicking on the rice cooker lid" and "Fell down but managed to grab a fistful of sand"... how true..

However, it is at the same instance Amusing and SAD to see such situation. rclxub.gif sad.gif doh.gif

good luck guys..
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post Mar 23 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(timsook @ Mar 23 2013, 12:09 PM)
Now no need to create more avatar anymore for GMS Page, they have gotten the last bit of money from the sheep, I think, and have abandon the page. You can post any damn thing on the page and the posting were not deleted.

Since march 4, you don't hear from KE GOH, Dee Casey (he got one more posting before dissappearing), Shereen, Shanti, JL Fong etc etc.. People like the Uncle Andy Lim, still trying to justify that the horse hasn't bolted and is still in the barn. Poor fellow.. d*** Yap, trying to tell he got 7,600 supporters from one CPO, what a bunch of losers.

Chinese saying "Dead Chicken kicking on the rice cooker lid" and "Fell down but managed to grab a fistful of sand"... how true..

However, it is at the same instance Amusing and SAD to see such situation. rclxub.gif  sad.gif  doh.gif

good luck guys..
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Not forgetting Catty Chong?, Raj Sami, Horace Bong aka Liow HC, and many others.. of course no one beats the CHAMPION Andrew Ng rclxm9.gif Give the guy a BIG Hand

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post Mar 26 2013, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Mar 24 2013, 12:33 AM)
Hmm, it does look like they are actually getting something done at last. Exactly what, I don't know...and they don't want anyone else to know either.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/genneva-mala...355992324518665

Ah well...might as well leave them to their own delusions.
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Who knows what they are doing. Like this fella Precious Gold character, he / she (actually cannot be she la), have been asking all the questions in relation to what they are doing.

1. When filing?

2. How many forms collected

3. How much money collected

4. Who is holding the money

5. Who is representing them

these are simple and general questions, and you see those replying to his question. There are 4 kinds of people answering

a) Supportive of Precious Gold who also wants answers. This bunch will add more questions into their posting. Most of them are just noise.

b) Headless and clueless chicken and sheep, supporting the HELP Desk or HELL Desk. This bunch will invent reasons for not answering and try to make anyone who are against their views not welcome. CAN YOU IMAGINE.. THEY EVEN BROUGHT IN TGG AS THE ENEMY!!!!

c) Dee Casey or Ruth Magilath (and the admin type of people).. Hamtam you first by saying you don't know what you are talking about but they never give any answers.. just lots of authoritative NOISE which are meaningless.

4) Volunteers.. why are they there?? Are they being paid or what??

the last dateline given was March 7th 2013.. it is now end of March 2013, still going around in circles.. and these people because they are so deep into this matter now, there is no turning back.

Most of them do not realize that they started on the wrong footing!!! it is also because they secretly want the scheme to continue so that they can continue to get their monthly hibah and all the easy money.

Guys wake up, there is no free lunch and there is no easy money.

These people have spun themselves into a vicious spiral. If they sue Genneva Malaysia, it means they will not have their easy money IF GENNEVA MALAYSIA RETURNS AND RUN THE SHOW AS PER NORMAL. (that is what they force themselves to believe.)

If I was Genneva Malaysia, once the money is released by the banks, I would be long gone. that amount of money is enough to last me many generations doing business in a different country. icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif
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post Mar 27 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(StockInvestor @ Mar 27 2013, 03:19 PM)
I reckon things are going to come to a crunch in a few months time.

The sheep will realise they were duped by Pat Lu (GMS Admin) and the devious GMSB legal adviser Dee Casey.

Rumours abound that the both of them are well paid by the Directors to stall, dupe and protect GMSB/Directors at all costs.

There are also rumours that Dee Casey is a woman working in cahoots with their other slimy lawyer, Hargopal Singh.

Yes, the same Hargopal Singh pictured in the Nanyang pic replete with requisite turban and looking a little shell-shocked at the embarassment of the Directors in their alleged BNM bribery (and orange togs).

Dee Casey, having engineered the entire legal proceedings (and allegedly making quite a pile from the Directors) is now passing the buck to the Help Desk. Happy ending for Dee whilst KE Goh, Shereen, Catty Chong and JL Fong take the fall. And these attack dogs should be rightly held accountable because they are the faces behind this second scam. Smart move by Dee.

Also, if the rumours are true, Pat Lu ought to be villified for throwing the sheep off the gully in her alleged vast payoff from the Directors. Sheer greed knows no bounds apparently.

And Dee Casey ought to be disbarred if she is a real lawyer for coercing the sheep to lodge false police reports without knowing the real repercussions. IP addy check, Bar Council?

Stay tuned for fireworks in the next coupla months.

That should be about the time the sheep wake up to the nightmare of being duped twice - by GMSB per se and the evil Dee & Pat Lu.

Stave. Stall. Dupe. Protect the Directors.
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I said this when they first started the JR process. It was just another ploy to scam the poor sheep one more time. The mathematics worked out to be really good.. considering 60,000 customers.. 70% will pay the RM50.00.. that will work out to 42,000 X 50 = RM2,100,000 .. ladies and gentlemen.. it is RM2.1 MILLION!!! no small money mate.. But do these people / sheep listen or hear? Yes, they hear but not listen. They hear but do not capture. So they should be scammed.

I hope the person holding the money is happy and the money will be just enough to last them their life time. If they collected too little.. life shorter lor.. smile.gif
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post Mar 27 2013, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(StockInvestor @ Mar 27 2013, 03:19 PM)
I reckon things are going to come to a crunch in a few months time.

The sheep will realise they were duped by Pat Lu (GMS Admin) and the devious GMSB legal adviser Dee Casey.

Rumours abound that the both of them are well paid by the Directors to stall, dupe and protect GMSB/Directors at all costs.

There are also rumours that Dee Casey is a woman working in cahoots with their other slimy lawyer, Hargopal Singh.

Yes, the same Hargopal Singh pictured in the Nanyang pic replete with requisite turban and looking a little shell-shocked at the embarassment of the Directors in their alleged BNM bribery (and orange togs).

Dee Casey, having engineered the entire legal proceedings (and allegedly making quite a pile from the Directors) is now passing the buck to the Help Desk. Happy ending for Dee whilst KE Goh, Shereen, Catty Chong and JL Fong take the fall. And these attack dogs should be rightly held accountable because they are the faces behind this second scam. Smart move by Dee.

Also, if the rumours are true, Pat Lu ought to be villified for throwing the sheep off the gully in her alleged vast payoff from the Directors. Sheer greed knows no bounds apparently.

And Dee Casey ought to be disbarred if she is a real lawyer for coercing the sheep to lodge false police reports without knowing the real repercussions. IP addy check, Bar Council?

Stay tuned for fireworks in the next coupla months.

That should be about the time the sheep wake up to the nightmare of being duped twice - by GMSB per se and the evil Dee & Pat Lu.

Stave. Stall. Dupe. Protect the Directors.
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Every instance when possible, I would include into my alter ego at GMS page to coax people to find out who is Dee Casey. To directly say it out, it is not possible. But to these people, they would trust a faceless avatar to do something so important which is to recover their tens of thousands of ringgit is beyond me. Until today, who in the help/hell/ helpless desk knows who is Dee Casey? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 27 2013, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Mar 27 2013, 06:11 AM)
cheh i tot those ppl scolding Precious Gold has got some info, who knows same status also
and KE Goh actually dare PG to send an email as verification lol
after verify then what still got no answer of these questions
1. When filing?
2. How many forms collected
3. How much money collected
4. Who is holding the money
5. Who is representing them
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They just wanted to drag this as long as possible because there is RM50.00 to collect from all the sheep. Perhaps they have not got enough.

5 legal eagles? what a JOKE. any lawyer worth their salt would not touch this JR thingy with a 10 feet pole.. No 50 feet pole.

Lawyers are NOT DUMB. Lawyers are not greedy too.

Most lawyers do not behave like those on TV or movies. When they are asked to defend a case, they too will asses the case. If it is a no go but they still have to litigate, then they will ask for leniency due to first time, sole bread winner, got sick 87 years old grandma at home no one to take care, got 4 school going kids need their support.. etc etc etc.. they are not gung ho to fight the obvious.
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post Mar 28 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(seather @ Mar 28 2013, 11:14 AM)
as long as i didn't sign the receipt... legally i didn't not receive any money from my sister... of coz still chase my sister tongue.gif

same case when u r withdrawing money from the bank counter... the lady is counting the money in front of u.. but before it is handed to u robbers came in and took all the money.. so it is bank's money or ur money kena rob?
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If the robbers came at that time, I would not have the chance to even touch the money. So since I have not receive the money, the bank still owes me money.

How to proof?

When the robbers are gone and the police is at the bank, that is when you must make a claim to secure yourself as a claimant.

Otherwise according to the bank records, you have withdrawn the money from the bank. So you must stay in the bank to secure yourself as a claimant. When the insurance money is paid, you will be reimburse or the bank will reimburse you first while waiting for the insurance claim.

Now you know why, once there is a robbery at any bank, the police cordoned off the place and allow no one to go in. For safety as well as for administrative work later on.

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post Apr 2 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Apr 1 2013, 01:12 PM)
I can't type Chinese but do you guys remember who that person is? The one who posted about consulting a lawyer? A few months back, she's the one who posted about wanting to go to BNM to get some answers and asked if any of the admins at GMS were able to follow her as backup. She was the one who actually wanted to do something while everyone else just raged at BNM without actually acting.

IIRC, nobody actually offered to assist her and they mostly raged at her as well instead. Only Andrew said that he will go but he also backed out last minute so she ended up going alone with her father.

Now it turns out she has actually consulted a lawyer as well for 3rd party claims. Good for her. Nice to see some customers taking matters into their own hands instead of being mindless sheep.
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Yup, I remember she is a young girl and Andrew Ng the Villain actually put her through the mill to belittle her and call her names. I am happy she is doing the right thing and heading the right way.

Congratulation for recognizing yourself as a Victim of GMSB instead of BNM. You got your hrad screwed on RIGHT.

Not many sheep left in GMS now, I am sure there are people who still go to Helpdesk actually asking for help. If only they know it is actually a HELLDESK.

Wake up guys and gals.... the sooner you wake up, the sooner BNM can start the process to return the money and crawl back some lost money for you. Of course the CONsultants want you to delay as much as possible, the Crawl back is going to be from them smile.gif icon_idea.gif Surely they want to delay it and see it fail if possible.
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post Apr 3 2013, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 2 2013, 02:43 PM)
Just amaze ... Already someone stated the law, already someone posted about a real lawyer advices, there r plenty small new lawyers out there for a free consultation or a small fees if it's really big firm...
Still want to go onwith JR
Well, I wonder which lawyer they use that has special pass for lawyer , maybe Tun M related law firm kekekekke
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Ha Ha Ha, Debbie, that is why such scam flourish. People just don't want to accept. This has all the hallmarks of how people were brought up and the cultural back ground.

e.g. You take a computer note book and chuck it out the 11th floor window. (make sure it does not land on anyone's head).

When the notebook lands on the ground floor concrete and transform itself into a million small pieces, here are the respond from the people around the smashed notebook.

1. Aiyoh... not working liao

2. hmmm how come like that arrr

3. Whose note book arrr???

4. Aiii Notebook damaged liao..

the list will go on.. but no one will say.. "This Notebook is f***ED", GONE, Broken, kapis

"Not Working".. still got hope..

"Damaged" .. still got hope

whereas...

f***ED.. No hope

GONE .. No Hope

etc etc etc..

so our people were brought up with the background of having hope when there is NO HOPE!!! makes them feel better la.. shiok sendiri.. understand smile.gif
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