No spray and pray meaning just get it done and hope it will happen

The problem with DIY is the power will be reduce overtime than you have to shake the bottle to let them power up again.

So DIY is mostly inconsistent but it still works to a certain level.

alright instant yeast it is then it's cheaper anyway haha!
yea by right that's the right way when baking, we dont even mix it, just leave it for 5 minutes, you'll see it bubble haha..
maybe if we mix it'll be faster than leaving it.. i might try

thanks very much

btw, is yours the one bottle method / 2 bottles method?

owh.. alright.. but my tank is only 25cm LOL. is there a recipe that does not produce so much co2? since we cant control it..
i only have moss & shrimps

btw, say the power reduces over time it's fine wan right?
what if i inject co2 this week then next month i malas to inject, will it harm my plants since it's inconsistent?

yea i know nothing about all these :/

I am not sure.
Pros will always use the proper Co2 tank.

Its not expensive. I using HPA for my paintball. Normally paintball use HPA or Co2.

But I duwan to spend so much coz I already spend alot...
So DIY and see result first.

Ya my HC growing but small small patches. And other plants also growing so should be ok.
Plus they r very green

yea i realized i wanna buy one cause it looks better, the tiny ADA one for nano tanks.
but i took interest on planted tanks just last month.. so i wanna see the difference
since im experimenting moss growth

qz: thanks for the clarification. is that idiom in english or cantonese or... coz i never heard it before.

emily : inconsistent co2 will result in imbalance growth n to a greater extend invite algae to ur tank. so once ur co2 runs out, u have to replace it pronto.
for smaller tank, u might want to use less yeast to start off. u have to be careful coz if you use a large number of yeast culture, u will provide too much gas into your tank causing ur fish or shrimps to go heaven...

i used 1 bottle method. everything (yeast + sugar water) into the one bottle.

that's what i did for my 2ft. when i got my 4ft, i went to 2x the power ( use 2 bottles to power the co2) and then swapping the changes as the yeast dies off.

edit : i found the spray n pray meaning : to use a lot of something in hope that i will hit your target... hahaha... nice one...

Haha bro soga

Bro use 2 big bottles coco cola or 100 plus to put your yeast.
Than 2 of them to 1 big bottle of water only.

This is to filter the alcohol out.
If not your plants n fishies will die bro n sis...

urghhh speaking of bloom..i may got bacteria bloom..all white n murky n smoky water..just change my HOB filter to cannister filter..how long it to make it clear again? do i have to change the water? read it at the internet, it needs 25% water change. anyone experienced?

Change water 25 to 30% and send in cleaner team.

Cleaner team of otto or loach and they will kill ur algae.
Need time bro.
Dont panic go slow.

Dont worry.
We are here for you.
Photos pls bro.

Talking bout cleaner team.

My cleaner team 1 of them just died yesterday.

My Chinese loach go and chase my Golden loach than my Golden loach jump out of the tank and die.

I go home was too late. He already dried up...

RIP...

algae and bacteria its not the same rite? correct me if im wrong..

If think your right mr doom.

Bacteria is another things.
Use clear water liquid or water change.
K1 media or any good media to cultivate Beneficial Bacteria.

Than should be okay.

qz : is that right? i never knew about the alcohol toxic if only use 1 bottle method. no wonder my fishes were swimming left n right... drunked swim! haha..

about the cloudy water, its bacteria bloom. happens to new and old aquarium especially after u make water change + clean ur filter. a mini cycle will happen. so cloudy water will disappear a few hours after you've turned on your filter. if even after 1 day no effect, means ur filter not suitable (underpowered).

Yes that a positive on the alcohol status

owh.. do you have a diagram for 1 bottle method? everything i see online caters for 2 bottles
yea exactly the reason why im trying to find recipe for little amounts of co2 produced.. cant find
+ i dont even know how little is little enough since not many people online are having 25cm tank with diy co2 tutorial

dont wanna risk my otto & amano from death.. hahah

haha.. wait till i got enuff money to buy macro lens.. that space i cant even squeeze my camera in to take a shot so a handphone shot will have to do.
btw look at what the postman decide to deliver to me to day... hehehe...

this made my day! wakakaka!
i know ive ordered 9mm but to touch and look at them in my hands, its just soooooo tiny... hence cute


these mini lilypipes totally open up my scape.
pls excuse the wild stem plants.. im waiting for it to reach the surface b4 i trim. not gonna rescape after all, mayb its just the lilypipes talking.. hehe..

yup, if you are using diy co2 you must pass the co2 thru some salt water b4 you let the co2 enters the tank.
im using one one bottle of yeast sugar mixture to produce co2. every time i change my yeast mixture i do it at non photoperiod so lack of co2 wont hit my plants.. and the pressure should build back up when the lights is back on.

owh.. then i shall go for 2 bottles set up then..
still cant find a 'recipe' for diy co2 for my tiny 22x16x15cm moss tank. LOL

dont wanna overdose and kill my otto's & future shrimps

just wanna see difference in growth with & without co2

buy valve..the one with small pipe..u can ctrl it..hahaha..20cent i guess