Actually, IIRC, that is for barbs, for monks there is no difference whether it si main or off hand. A good read can be found here:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6202181225

EG Sweeping Wind

As I showed above, for an individual weapon, the weapon speed does not matter for total Cyclone damage contribution, just weapon DPS. This situation becomes more complicated when you are dual wielding however. Just to continue my example, let's assume we are now dual-wielding both weapons from my previous example.Because your overall base attacks per second while dual-wielding is an average of your weapons, our new attacks per second is 1.5 (multiplied by % attack speed on gear and the 15% attack speed boost from dual-wield, but this contribution is not significant for this example because that would affect both weapons equally).If you recall, the damage of SW and Cyclone is "set" based on which hand is active when you use the ability. Let's see what happens when our active weapon is both of the ones in this example.If we "set" our damage with our slow main hand weapon, Cyclone will be hitting for 20 damage per shock again, for 120 total damage. Our overall attacks per second is now 1.5 however, which makes our Cyclones spawned per second 0.75 (1.5 APS * 50% Crit). So Cyclones are adding 90 DPS on average (120 dmg * 0.75). This is more than just this weapon alone.If we "set" our damage with our fast off-hand weapon, Cyclone will be hitting for 10 damage per shock with a total of 60 damage. Again, our overall attacks per second is 1.5 and we are getting 0.75 Cyclones per second. Cyclone is only adding 45 DPS in this situation (60 * 0.75). This is less than with just this weapon alone.

Credit to Rehwyn.

My my I am impressed..pretty awesome monk there..and great to see you ditched owe

Only quibble I have would be the low armor, try pushing it up to 5k. Kinda weird to see purp gems as well lol..me thinks you can drop the vit gems from the depth diggers and swap with emerald.

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Added on December 19, 2012, 10:45 pm Only at high mp, you got lpps so I would recommend getting a inna helm with at least 50 lpps with ar. You don't need the asi so much since you got fast weapons diminishing returns bro ...

This post has been edited by gladfly: Dec 19 2012, 10:45 PM

Come let me wade into this..

YOu got transendence which gives you 62 life per spirit. You got no Loh and 2.7% LS. So, to compement your life sustain, since you ahve picked transendence, get a helm(not weapons since yours are awesome) with Life per spirit spent (LPPS) with at least 50. Thus, you will get about 110 LPPS.

110 LPPS is great as long you keep spamming spirit, eg ..casting SW will give you about 8k life, mantras 5k life..and so on.

So the trick is to keep spamming spirit spenders as a way of topping back life which should be a cake for you since your spirit regen ought to be fast in view of your attack speed..

BUt seriously, at MP5 you stats are more than sufficient, could be you are not used to monk tactics. A little repositioning and timing of serenity/Spirit penders/potion/ is needed for the Ohh Sheeet Elites.

But its pretty fun using a monk...I play mine more than my Dh these days

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Added on December 20, 2012, 10:16 amhigh dex = high dodge = higher dps also this ..plus you get 1/2 Armor for every dex via STI.

RD cant be dodged anymore. Just remember RD damage taken first..and subsequently the life sustain kicks in.

This post has been edited by gladfly: Dec 20 2012, 10:18 AM

OK. I just address on the point of RD scales.

In short, yes it scales. It scales based on your DPS..i.e if you hit harder the RD is higher.

The reason you dont see the difference is that if you equip a LS weapon, you get the same mitigation factor no matter what is your DPS, less DPS means less LS but also less RD reflected. Higher DPS means more LS but more RD refelcted. The ratio stays the same hence, it makes no difference in respect of RD if you have 100k DPS with 3% LS or 200k DPS with 3% LS.

As for LoH, it totally the opposite. You Loh is based on per hit and not your DPS. Hence, when your DPS goes higher, the effective life sustain against RD is lower for the simple reason that LoH dosnt scale. Therefore, higer DPS means higer reflect but sustain is the same.

This is another reason why LS (as of now) is superior to LoH. However, in my humble opinion, is wont be wise to go all LS, in view of PVP. We still dont know the mechanics for PvP yet, but assuming based on PvE standards, LS might not be very effective in view that most toons have 90% mitigation therefore only 10% of effective damage will be dealt. LS steals from effective damage, hence probably you will get x% of the LS from the 10% only.

Yup. I was also intruiged by the RD issue and done a fair bit of reading at battlenet. By the way, RD from what I read is is claimed at 20% and it appears there are some math to back this claim. To to hit home the message I just put an example

A toon with 3% LS at whatever DPS with 90% mitigation.

1. 100k hit

RD @20% = 20k reflected
Real damage = 20k x 0.1 =2k hit.
LS =100k x3% x0.2 = 600
Therefore net life loss is 1400 (2k -600)

2. 200k hit

RD@ 20% =40k refected
Real damage =40k x0.1 = 4k hit
LS=200k x3% x 0.2 =1200
Therefore net life loss is 2800 (4k -1200)

3. 300k hit

RD@ 20% =60k refected
Real damage =60k x0.1 = 6k hit
LS=300k x3% x 0.2 =1800
Therefore net life loss is 4200 (6k -1800)

Conclusion = same ratio no scaling. You noticed that the RD of 200k and 300k is exactly 2x of 100k and 3x.

2. A toon with 2000 LoH at whatever DPS with 90% mitigation. on the assumption of proc rate of 100%

1. 100k hit

RD @20% = 20k reflected
Real damage = 20k x 0.1 =2k hit.
LoH =2000
Therefore net life gain/loss =zero

2. 200k hit

RD@ 20% =40k refected
Real damage =40k x0.1 = 4k hit
LoH=2000
Therefore net life loss is 2000 (4k -2000)

3. 300k hit

RD @20% = 60k reflected
Real damage = 60k x 0.1 =6k hit.
LoH =2000
Therefore net life loss of 4k. (6k-2k)

Conclusion: No fixed ratio. a 300k hit = 2x of 200k hit whereas a 100k does not lose any life.

@2890..I dont think I am wrong about the compuation of RD. Do correct me if I am wrong.

Anyways, back to your toon, I would drop the depths but you will lose a lot of AR on that. DPS wise, Inna Temperance is hard to beat. Since you hit jackpot, perhaps an Inna Temprance with AR? Kacinnnnnggg!!

Chest, some say tal rasha is great..but I have to agree with most to say Blackthorns are probably BiS for the high AR and dex/vit roll best bang for the buck. If you really want to chase DPS, then mempo has to have CC, otherwise an Inna Radiance with 6% CC + 14% FoT bonus will smash it to bits. Tip 14% FoT >9% ASI> 14% SW bonus.

Keep the TWH la...I would trade a kidney for the TWH (virtual one la of course) ..lulz

IMHO, best gears for a monk

Innas: S.Stone + Pants
Nats:- Standard ring+boots
Chest:- BT
Belt: TWH

Yellow ..yellow for the rest. BiS gloves/bracers are always rares so too are jewelries.

Unless you abadone your resolve (not the passive skill nor pun intended) and you pick OWE, I dont think you can afford to lose more AR on your toon bro. Its a bad idea to go below 500AR no matter how good your life sustain stats are.

However, if I am you, I'll picked Vit as EHP wise Vit>AR and pants tend to give up to 200 Vit compared 80AR. Also, Vit is cheaper than AR..i.e a 150 Vit is much cheaper than 75AR. ( Iam a cheapskate) If you chose BT chest, the loss of AR can be compensated, but you plus gain tonnes of Vit, hence EHP.

Your mempo has CC? jackpot..lol. Keep the mempo. BIS liao. So you go no choice but get Inna pants + chest lor. Get a Vast expense with AR then...expensive but me sure you can afford it..hehehe..and yes the 130 dex bonus is to good to pass.

Yalor..that was why I gave my hats off to him initially. Build from scratch without using OWE. Ideal.

If you dont have any 2x res gears then no point go OWE. If you cant really lose anymore AR bro. If you skimp AR on chest and pants, the cheapest and ideal way to boost AR is from rings since they can roll 70AR or 80AR???

Correct me if Iam wrong..but who actually bids for Vast Expense with AR..certainly not DH since they get Nats. I could understand why Inna Temperance with AR is expensive since Monks and DH is given to fight over it..but Vast expense?

So why the hell is Vast Expense with AR so bloody expensive? greed ...lol


@ 2890.

So, best solution, Gte the highest Vit Vast Expense/ Highest AR on Inna Temp (can always use for your DH later on)

Wow super fast monk.. dunno what to say. If I am u, I will dump the tasker and theo..and get some CHD (as high as possible) +CC + Dex gloves. Can reduce some life...48k me thinks is overkill liao..40k cukup makan.

And why on earth you are using the worst passive ever..Pacifism?????? Lulz....

How on earth can you get 1 shotted when our monk on average have 90% mitigation?

RD? lets say 40k life...to be killed by 1 shot with 90% mitigation is to crit at 2 Million per hit? Show me a monk that crits for 2 Mil?

Ideally its about mitigation + life sustain...both hand in hand. If I deal burst damage via CHD but I am stacking LS...problem solved rite? Because more DPS means more life stolen so long you dont die from 1st hit.

SHOWOFF..lulz...

572 chd..lol..and ppl complain that 2x socket manticore is OP...

Well...100k damage minus mitigation of 90% left 10k, minus 5k life you get net loss 5K.Assuming you drop CHD, and deal 250k damage, you get 2.5k life and you get 50k damage...after mitigation you are left with 2.5k net loss right? So its easier.....Your logic is correct until here...unfortunately you forgot about killing the E.

Say the E has 1M life, if I crit 500k , I hit 2x, so I kill faster and lose 10k life. Same as I crit 250k, I hit 4x and lose 10k life. Net result, no matter how much I crit, I lose 10k life to kill the E. Conclusion, doesnt matter how much I crit, I still need to kill the damn E with 1M life. RD will ultimately reflect 20% of 1M damage back so its a matter you want to do it fast or do it slow.

The answer is pretty obvious rite?

Its does snap the LS, just that when you swap your weapons, the snapshot is for SW only, so you get LS from the vortex and Cyclones. You dont get the LS from the weapons after swapping.

Anyways, I dont get it why ppl swap. So troublesome...

IC. Ya..skorn no LS is useless for a monk..I thought yours got LS.... BUt the DPS boost is just mad...

The swap is by way of macro..which is a bannable act. Do it at your own risk

K...I...T...E.

No serenity means you cant face tank all the time. But I do agree you can ditch serenity as long you got good life sustain, high EHP and good timing skills on potion, teleport out before the Ohhhhhhh FFFFFFUUUUU moments

+1

SPOT ON.

Serenity while is a "get out of jail free card"..but makes you wanna commit the crime more often than not.

Anyways, MP10 Ghom is not a good benchmark if you wanna drop serenity, the gas is nothing compared with what some E can deal...molten/electricfied/fast/decre comes to mind. If you can face tank that..then ok..cukup makan liao.

p.s I still dont get why descre is classed as Physical damage..I mean its fire burning under the feet right...???

True. But SS doesnt absorb damage hence non dodgeable damage is going to kill you even with SS on. (I dont know if RD can be nullified with SS since its not dodgeable now). Hence the extra difference there.

Quaza, how is resolve doing with you? I dropped it in place for Beacon after I read it works only on the mob that you hit and not AOE. Thinking of putting it back on at Higher MP during key farming. (MP8-9)

Yaka? I thought SS deosnt nullify molten/archane/plague? Cause last time I use DH on SS run through those, life still drop.

@2890, master DH, can remember SS nullifies all damage or only physical?

LoL..me too lo 1.5 sec is way too short compared with 6 sec gloom . I will also try and see..does lingering fog 2 sec available? or it got nerfed ?