WHAT THIS MEAN?
Patron Saint of Children, coopers, sailors, fishermen, merchants, broadcasters, the falsely accused, repentant thieves, pharmacists, archers, pawnbrokers

I wasn't expecting another question to be an answer. I truly thought someone would enlighten me with a little more patience.


So your God is not being omnipotent, nor benevolent anymore as how the bible claims to be. Please do teach me, help me understand. Fighting against my naivety with your anger isn't going to make your arguments convincing.


Another answer in a form of question. It's not that i think religion is only meant for a specific race, but I do think when your religion was created he didn't have the other races in mind. It seems to me that the characters that they mention in the bible are restricted to a small region only, and not the entire population.

it means when you face problem related to those, or your profession are one of those, you can always besides praying to God, ask for intercession of Saint Nicholas - because Saint Nicholas understands what you will go through
very well as he has been through such during his time on earth.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1758395?author=Jedi - refer Post 2 and Post 3 if you wish to understand more of intercession, from a catholic and orthodox point of view.

Merry Christmas

an example of St Nicholas Prayer

ST. NICHOLAS PRAYER



For Children since he is also Patron Saint of Children:

A PRAYER FOR CHILDREN



General Intercessory Prayer as thanks giving



However you can make up your own prayer, in a conversational form, as the Lord has already known our intentions when we want to pray, before we pray.

This post has been edited by Jedi: Dec 25 2012, 10:03 PM

1 - Religion dont define who we are, nor is Race. Christianity is for all, in other words, God's love is for all. The same may say for Buddhism Muslim etc etc

2 and 3 - Genesis 11:1-9 (Can you read this by google as its long) I provide commentaries here for your question 2 and 3 by relating with the Genesis 11:1-9.

What was wrong was that the tower builders (the descendants of Noah's son Ham) thought they could reach heaven their own way and not God's way.
They wanted to make a name for themselves and by themselves. They were rebelling against the covenant authority of Shem (Noah's first born son).
Shem in Hebrew means "name". Names are important to God.
Ham's descendants decided they didn't need God or His covenant.
God had promised Noah never to send a flood again, so God instead confused their language.
This is Babylon and was probably a ziggurat (pyramid with a temple on top that was built). Babel or Babylon became the symbol of evil and decadence.

General Lay-Man History for 'Dummies - who does not know characters yet in Bible':

The enemies of the Israelites are the descendants of Ham.
By building the tower, the Hamites, as they were called, were usurping the authority of Shem.
It is Noah's first-born Shem's line that are the people of God and who chose to worship God as part of His covenant. This is the line that Jesus Christ comes from.

A belief that you can reach heaven outside the graces of God, on your own, is encompassed in the sin of pride.

The evil is in their desire to "make a name" for themselves rather than in the attempt to build a tower "with its top in the heavens" . . .

Human smallness, not divine impotence, is emphasized in the Lord’s descent (verse. 5).

The plural in verse 7 may reflect the concept of God’s royal court, an early idea in Israel.

The punishment had been anticipated in verse 4. The name of the city, Babel, is here associated with the Hebrew root bll, "to confound."

The great city and its (implied) defeat thus becomes synonymous with man’s revolt against God and its consequences.

The inhabitants of the city started to build a great stage-tower ziggurat, which they raised to some considerable height and then were unable to complete. The massive remains were a visible reminder of the ineffectual attempt which tradition recorded to have been accompanied by discord and consequent migration of many of the population. This meager historical record explains why the sacred writer did not mention the nature of the sin which led to the frustration of the grandiose design. But his deep conviction of God’s overruling government of the world taught him that the attempt had been displeasing to God and the narrative suggests that the sin was one of overweening human pride and self-sufficiency.

The story has been widely understood to tell of a miraculous intervention by which different languages were introduced and the population thus became unable to understand one another. But it must be noted that the different groups among not only the Japhethites and Chamites, 10:5,20, but also among the Semites, 10:31, are already recorded to have had their various languages, and as the two former groups are already out of the story, the origin of languages is not recorded here. Moreover, the word for "languages" is lason which is that used in 10:5, 20, 31. In our passage this word is not found. That used is sapah, "lip," which also signifies "utterance." The natural meaning here is that the people at first in complete harmony "all saying the same thing" fell out among themselves and could not agree upon a common policy; and as a result of the discord (and possibly of fighting) there was a migration.

The exact date is not important but the message behind the reason for Christmas is.

The tower of Babel.

I believe All races started from there.

To relate with us.

dont u ever get tired of replying the same old questions all the time? this questions is easily available by searching and still they prefer to be spoon fed.

It's alright Silk.

they wants to see how we defends it. they "think" other religion is not right to believe under "their own knowledge to judge" it. human law always need 2 ppl to witness only consider it real to see from their own eyes.

Don't mind me, if I share a bit of devotion.

Well You guys remember what Jesus says?

John 15:18NIV
If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.

1 John 3:13 NIV
Do not be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.

This world is under the rule of the fallen angel satan.

Ephesians 2:2NIV
in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.


Just look at RWI and simpletraveller thread and see how true is God's word, lol.

its gona be a long keyboard war in it

It's not our responsibility to answer all critics.

Let them critic all they want.

Our responsibility is to know God better and better.

To have closer and closer relationship with the Almighty God.

And I will do my level best to help all of you in here.

kingdom of the air is?

Spiritual realm.

Where wars between God's angel and demonic spirits.

Great thread answering questions for those who do not understand the bible and Christianity together. Have a blessed Christmas!

that's the reason I did not reply in it. seeing them is like seeing my old days as a free thinker, all my knowledge r came from what I see scientifically and the time I live in it. I'm lucky that I have the chance to seek god kingdoms today and I will hold it tight till my last breath.

This post has been edited by skydrake: Dec 25 2012, 11:53 PM

same to you bro.

help link this thread to any of your Bro n Sis in Christ in lowyat.net.

thanks.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 26 2012, 12:01 AM

God himself will keep you and build you up.

Don't worry.

Just Hold tight to your Faith.

I doubt that you're 9.

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heard so many times about Jesus being in India and Buddhist stuff.

Well, can tell them to try harder.

It's not going to work.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 26 2012, 12:22 AM