well said!


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Now I would now present a good sharing:

The problem of evil

It is not logically contradictory to say an all-powerful and all-loving God tolerates so much evil when he could eradicate it?

Why do bad things happen to good people?

The question makes three questionable assumptions.

First, who's to say we are good people?

The question should be not "Why do bad things happen to good people?" but "Why do good things happen to bad people?"

If the fairy godmother tells Cinderella that she can wear her magic gown until midnight, the question should be not "Why not after midnight?" but "Why did I get to wear it at all?"

The question is not why the glass of water is half empty but why it is half full, for all goodness is gift.

The best people are the ones who are most reluctant to call themselves good people.

Sinners think they are saints, but saints know they are sinners.

The best man who ever lived once said,

Second, who's to say suffering is all bad?

Life without it would produce spoiled brats and tyrants, not joyful saints.

Rabbi Abraham Heschel says simply, "The man who has not suffered, what can he possibly know, anyway?"

Suffering can work for the greater good of wisdom. It is not true that all things are good, but it is true that "all things work together for good to those who love God."


Third, who's to say we have to know all God's reasons? Who ever promised us all the answers?

Animals can't understand much about us; why should we be able to understand everything about God?

The obvious point of the Book of Job, the world's greatest exploration of the problem of evil, is that we just don't know what God is up to.

What a hard lesson to learn: Lesson One, that we are ignorant, that we are infants!

No wonder Socrates was declared by the Delphic Oracle to be the wisest man in the world. He interpreted that declaration to mean that he alone knew that he did not have wisdom, and that was true wisdom for man.

A child on the tenth story of a burning building cannot see the firefighters with their safety net on the street. They call up, "Jump! We'll catch you. Trust us." The child objects, "But I can't see you." The firefighter replies, "That's all right. I can see you. We are like that child, evil is like the fire, our ignorance is like the smoke, God is like the firefighter, and Christ is like the safety net. If there are situations like this where we must trust even fallible human beings with our lives, where we must trust what we hear, not what we see, then it is reasonable that we must trust the infallible, all-seeing God when we hear from his word but do not see from our reason or experience. We cannot know all God's reasons, but we can know why we cannot know.




Truth be told:
God has let us know a lot. He has lifted the curtain on the problem of evil with Christ.

There, the greatest evil that ever happened, both the greatest spiritual evil and the greatest physical evil, both the greatest sin (deicide) and the greatest suffering (perfect love hated and crucified), is revealed as his wise and loving plan to bring about the greatest good, the salvation of the world from sin and suffering eternally.

There, the greatest injustice of all time is integrated into the plan of salvation that Saint Paul calls "the righteousness (justice) of God".

Love finds a way. Love is very tricky. But love needs to be trusted.


The worst aspect of the problem of evil is eternal evil, hell.

Does hell not contradict a loving and omnipotent God? No, for hell is the consequence of free will. We freely choose hell for ourselves; God does not cast anyone into hell against his will.

If a creature is really free to say yes or no to the Creator's offer of love and spiritual marriage, then it must be possible for the creature to say no. And that is what hell is, essentially.

Free will, in turn, was created out of God's love. Therefore hell is a result of God's love. Everything is.

No sane person wants hell to exist. No sane person wants evil to exist. But hell is just evil eternalized.

If there is evil and if there is eternity, there can be hell.

If it is intellectually dishonest to disbelieve in evil just because it is shocking and uncomfortable, it is the same with hell. Reality has hard corners, surprises, and terrible dangers in it.

We desperately need a true road map, not nice feelings, if we are to get home. It is true, as people often say, that "hell just feels unreal, impossible." Yes. So does Auschwitz (Nazi Concentration Camp). So does Calvary.

This post has been edited by Jedi: Dec 18 2012, 05:44 PM

Can't find one of my old posts .... only fragments

In the end, God will use everything from our friends, boss, family, husband, wife, environment, sufferings etc just to gain you to be a matured son of God in the divine life. Everything is in the Father's hand.

Jacob was like that. Paul was too. And many more in front of us.

It is evident that Job and his friends did not see the positive aspect of God's economy in dealing with His holy people. That is, God wants to strip, not to judge, His holy ones that He might gain them so that they might gain Him more.

Job's friends thought that what he was suffering was a matter of God's judgment. However, Job's sufferings were not God's judgment but God's stripping. The Sabeans took away Job's oxen and donkeys, the "fire of God" devoured his sheep, the Chaldeans took his camels, and a great wind caused the death of his sons and daughters (Job 1:13-19). All these things were God's stripping, but Job and his friends regarded them as God's judgment. Throughout the centuries, many readers of the book of Job have had the same concept, thinking that Job suffered because of God's judgment.

Have you ever had the thought that quite often God does something to strip you? Even though you may not be wrong, suddenly certain things happen to you, and God uses these things to strip you. It is through His stripping that God dispenses Himself to those who love Him and seek after Him. Job lost all that he had, but ultimately he gained God Himself. God stripped his all in order that He could be his all for his full transformation and conformation to the glorious image of God in His Son (Rom. 8:29). Job and his friends did not have the adequate revelation of the divine truths. As godly men, they expressed their sentiments within the limits of the revelation they had received.

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Prayer works.

I want go Mt. Olive.

yeap, we've been praying for this to be made open.

Praise God for his answer.

Path with Lords together, the world no longer store in a box of boundaries.

Our God owns the whole Universe, drake.

He can open up a whole new world for us, if we pray.

my bad, I did not try to pray beyond the universe before. My faith is still in this world, not beyond the universe. Its my problem..

lol, no drake,

wat I meant is....... nvm.


u trolling me ar?

I like the sound of it.

But perhaps a more suited word would be the meek know they are sinners.

Dear Christians,

Could any of you interpret the meaning of this song. Is it offensive or just meaningless?

Lyrics


Song

Is it important to you?

I guess it is. Been listening to it for a few years only recently listened to the words.

u a Christian bro?

yes

Hi guys, advance merry christmas to all of you and God bless you!!

if my believer are buddhist and i also believe on jesus without pray jesus only pay my respect to jesus only
did i done something wrong?

well, Jesus did mention the world will always be at odd with God and it's quite true.

The problem is that we have not known what is exactly God's way. What is safe and what is damaging to our soul, What benefits us.

So Jesus come straight to the point by saying, Do not love the world or anything in the world.

It is not only a warning but a deterrent so that we don't put ourselves in danger of giving Satan a foothold.

Because there are many things in this world that is Anti-God.

You probably already know Queen is very much part of this world.

But really up to you. You may not like what you're seeing but if you're willing to listen, it'll be good to take heed to what Jesus says.

Have a blessed Christmas bro.