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prophetjul
post Mar 4 2013, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 10:58 AM)
How can you break it if it has been nullified?  smile.gif
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Yes.........the old covenant was null and void


BUT the NEW covenant required even higher requirements of the law......the spirit of the law

17Thinknot that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I amnot come to destroy , but to fulfil(clarify, magnify)

18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise passfrom the law, till all be fulfilled .19Whosoever therefore shall breakone of these least commandments, and shall teachmen so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall doand teach them, the same shall be calledgreat in the kingdom of heaven.20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enterinto the kingdom of heaven

21Ye have heardthat it was saidby them of old time, Thou shaltnot kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say , Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

27Ye have heardthat it was said by them of old time, Thou shaltnot commit adultery :28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust afterher hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.29And if thy right eye offendthee, pluckit out , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be castinto hell.

You think its null? It gets more difficult ler...........thats why we need the righteousness of Jesus Christ.


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post Mar 4 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:02 AM)
Please refer back to write up about Speaking in Tongues, all questions have been addressed.

It's in the previous page.

Don't talk about interpretation to me if you don't know the context.
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You have the context wrong to start with by mixing prophecy and tongues.....the cntext of interpretation was
always with tongues the unknown lingo in mind
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 10:58 AM)
On Spiritual Warfare, a very scriptural approach
http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/mm/mm_06
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Preaching of Christ. The Forgiveness of Sins, His unmerited Grace, His Love and His Will that None Shall Perish but have Eternal Life.

But What do YOU usually preach?

I tell'll you.


Beware of False Prophets!

Blasphemy!

Idolatry!

Useless!

Better Get your doctrine Right!

poppycocks!

Bla Bla Bla.



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post Mar 4 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:08 AM)
Well I've asked you for the umpteen time, have anyone in your attempt to correct them, received the Truth by your method of reproof?
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Do you stop using the scriptures because someone refuses to accept correction?
No! i am kne who was COrrected! biggrin.gif

Does that make the scriptures powerless?

Go read up on the link i gave on warfare.... even christians can be stiff necked......
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:12 AM)
Preaching of Christ. The Forgiveness of Sins, His unmerited Grace, His Love and His Will that None Shall Perish but have Eternal Life.

But What do YOU usually preach?

I tell'll you.
Beware of False Prophets!

Blasphemy!

Idolatry!

Useless!

Better Get your doctrine Right!

poppycocks!

Bla Bla Bla.
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Ya right.....you are one would say and preach half truths

16For God so loved the world, that he gavehis only begotten Son, that whosoever believethin him shouldnot perish , but haveeverlasting life.17For God sentnot his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved .

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post Mar 4 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:10 AM)
Yes.........the old covenant was null and void
BUT the NEW covenant required even higher requirements of the law......the spirit of the law

17Thinknot that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I amnot come to destroy , but to fulfil(clarify, magnify)

18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise passfrom the law, till all be fulfilled .19Whosoever therefore shall breakone of these least commandments, and shall teachmen so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall doand teach them, the same shall be calledgreat in the kingdom of heaven.20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enterinto the kingdom of heaven

21Ye have heardthat it was saidby them of old time, Thou shaltnot kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say , Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

27Ye have heardthat it was said by them of old time, Thou shaltnot commit adultery :28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust afterher hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.29And if thy right eye offendthee, pluckit out , and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish , and not that thy whole body should be castinto hell.

You think its null?  It gets more difficult ler...........thats why we need the righteousness of Jesus Christ.
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The Spirit of the New Law is no longer the Law of the Old Testament. Otherwise it is no point to nullify it.
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:12 AM)
You have the context wrong to start with by mixing prophecy and tongues.....the cntext of interpretation was
always with tongues the unknown lingo in mind
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I didn't mix it with prophecy. Read it Again.
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:14 AM)
Do you stop using the scriptures because someone refuses to accept correction?
No! i am kne who was COrrected!    biggrin.gif

Does that make the scriptures powerless?

Go read up on the link i gave on warfare.... even christians can be stiff necked......
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I can tell you this for sure.

Nobody is going to accept it if you preached God the Old Testament way bondage again to fear.
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:19 AM)
The Spirit of the New Law is no longer the Law of the Old Testament. Otherwise it is no point to nullify it.
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The Spirit of the new law is BASED on the old law........its not wiped out but replaced.


Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed , there is madeof necessity a change also of the law


Thats why Jesus magnified the law in the beatititudes.

So what is YOUR conscience based on now if you say there is NO law? biggrin.gif


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post Mar 4 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:22 AM)
I can tell you this for sure.

Nobody is going to accept it if you preached God the Old Testament way bondage again to fear.
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preaching the God of the OT....bondage?

Jesus was in the OT!

The Holy Spirit was in the OT!

Is there a different God? hmm.gif

Are you confused?

He is the same yesterady, today and tommorow! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:16 AM)
Ya right.....you are one would say and preach half truths

16For God so loved the world, that he gavehis only begotten Son, that whosoever believethin him shouldnot perish , but haveeverlasting life.17For God sentnot his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved .

and HIDE

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Okay since you're so smart, explain away.

I would like to hear your revelation on this.


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“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,f that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.g 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”h

If God did not send his Son to condemn the world then why make mentioned that whoever does not believe in Him, stands condemn? smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:24 AM)
The Spirit of the new law is BASED on the old law........its not wiped out but replaced.
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed , there is madeof necessity a change also of the law
Thats why Jesus magnified the law in the beatititudes. 

So what is YOUR conscience based on now if you say there is NO law?  biggrin.gif
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If the spirit of the new law is BASED on the old law, why base it on the basics of the 10 commandments if it is weak and useless? Hebrews 7:18

Shouldn't it be based on something totally different? smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:26 AM)
preaching the God of the OT....bondage?

Jesus was in the OT!

The Holy Spirit was in the OT!   

Is there a different God?  hmm.gif

Are you confused?

He is the same yesterady, today and tommorow!  biggrin.gif
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Same God but different Covenant.

New Covenant is no longer condemnation and bondage again to fear the Old Testament way. smile.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 1 2013, 02:33 PM)
My LORD Jesus used SIMPle lingo to pray........issit less power?

Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed bethy name.10Thy kingdom come . Thy will be donein earth, as it is in heaven.11Giveus this day our daily bread.12And forgiveus our debts, as we forgiveour debtors.13And leadus not into temptation, but deliverus from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen
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Jesus has to leave so Holy spirit can come.
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:29 AM)
Okay since you're so smart, explain away.

I would like to hear your revelation on this.
NIV

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,f that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.g 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”h

If God did not send his Son to condemn the world then why make mentioned that whoever does not believe in Him, stands condemn?  smile.gif
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First of all.........i am not smart.........i am not trying to either.........but iron sharperns iron.......we learn from each other

This statements shew that God's attributes

a) God is LOVE

b) God is HOLY

c) God is JUST

This is the balance view of God as revealed in scriptures and consistent is all that He has done and is doing and will do.

His Loving attribute cost Him His only son......for what? For SINFUL humans.

His HOLY attribute requires shedding of Blood..........the blood of His ONLY son....for without the shedding of blood, there is
NO forgiveness of sins

His JUSTice required sentencing....thats why at the end of the age, you have God on the throne meting out judgements for
believers and non believers..

So without the holistic unedstanding of His attributes, we could end witha skewed understanding of God.
We can get TOO lovey dovey. We could get TOO terrified fo the angry God....

BUT the totalistic understanding of Him allows us

to experience His LOVE,

REVERE His HOLINESS

APPRECIATE His Justice




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post Mar 4 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:32 AM)
If the spirit of the new law is BASED on the old law, why base it on the basics of the 10 commandments if it is weak and useless? Hebrews 7:18

Shouldn't it be based on something totally different?  smile.gif
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The OT law is not useless......ask Paul........

You forgot the following line

19For the law madenothing perfect , but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 4 2013, 11:34 AM)
Same God but different Covenant.

New Covenant is no longer condemnation and bondage again to fear the Old Testament way.  smile.gif
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But the way you express is as if the OT god is s fearsome and the NT god is different? smile.gif

They are the same
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Mar 4 2013, 11:40 AM)
Jesus has to leave so Holy spirit can come.
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So?

Less or more power? With tongues or simple lingo? smile.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:42 AM)
First of all.........i am not smart.........i am not trying to either.........but iron sharperns iron.......we learn from each other

This statements shew that God's attributes

a) God is LOVE

b) God is HOLY

c) God is JUST

This is the balance view of God as revealed in scriptures and consistent is all that He has done and is doing and will do.

His Loving attribute cost Him His only son......for what?  For SINFUL humans.

His HOLY attribute requires shedding of Blood..........the blood of His ONLY son....for without the shedding of blood, there is
NO forgiveness of sins

His JUSTice required sentencing....thats why at the end of the age, you have God on the throne meting out judgements for
believers and non believers..

So without the holistic unedstanding of His attributes, we could  end witha skewed understanding of God.
We can get TOO lovey dovey. We could get TOO terrified fo the angry God....

BUT the totalistic understanding of Him allows us

to experience His LOVE,

REVERE His HOLINESS

APPRECIATE His Justice
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Correct.

I know Iron sharpens Iron. It's in the book of Proverbs.

But I believe the only rightful person who can do this properly is God Himself.

Not us.

I sincerely believe that God does not want us to represent him as the same fiery judgemental God as in the Old Testament for one reason alone;

Jesus Christ.

It would defeat the purpose of Him who came for us to do so.

All judgement has been mete out on Him, He has taken the perfect judgement and punishment for our sins.

If this is so, Why do we still condemn others as IF Jesus has not taken enough punishment?

You are right in all that you've posted up there, only 1 more matter.

I know you may not agree with me.

There's no more judgement for those who are in Christ Jesus.

I will share a devotion on this, later with scriptural references.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 4 2013, 11:46 AM)
The OT law is not useless......ask Paul........

You forgot the following line

19For the law madenothing perfect , but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
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The Law is put into effect for sinners and believers who try to come to God through works.

It cannot make you Holy, it's sole purpose is just to show you, your sins.

If something is designed to show you your sins, the more you try, the more you see sin manifesting, what is the point then coming via that way?

You cannot draw near to God based on Law.

It is based on Grace.

Something that you did not achieved.

If it is something you didn't achieved, your obedience to law merits nothing then.

Grace is the better hope, verse 19 is talking about.

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