wowwweeee!!!..gonna save my money right now..hopefully can get it this year

you guys are so happy oh... haha

Quite look nice the all new Vios car...

But we don't know about the car of interior

Not as pretty as the K3, but for a Toyota quite good. Though that's, well, we are talking about Toyota after all.

It really was about time. We will have to see if it is worth the money though, I think it will be quite empty and outdated inside.

Behind look so like the Nissan Almera

Ps: Good bye RV for the Dugong. The first Vios held up nicely cause it was a better made car, with similar tech, and a nicer design. In terms of design at least the new one will easily beat the Dugong.

I think they are going with the new Aurion design language, which isn't a bad thing. Looks like the CEO change was a good thing for them.

BMW/Toyota collaboration?
GT 86?
New Sports Hybrid coming as well?

Too bad, until Malaysia introduces lemon laws and stricter road safety laws, we'd still be milked badly by Toyota Asia. Just look at the other ASEAN countries, the car specs are just as bad. Although Thai version do enjoy a lot of additional options.

Can Toyota even drastically improve the cars/specs? I mean, then resale value of their older models would suffer. If the resale value suffers, one of the most important "features" of a Toyota goes away. Why buy a Toyota then?

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Feb 8 2013, 12:13 PM

I think they have to improve the car specs. They can still offer the same junk they do right now

But look at the KIA Rio, Ford Fiesta. Heck, even the Honda City now has VSC, and Suzuki isn't a marque to discount out as well. All of them are offering better and better specification cars at a competitive price.

It's now 6 years since the current Vios has been introduced. That means previous owners will now either move onto to a C segment or better and there will be a newer crop of younger consumers that *hopefully* are more tech savvy and demand better features. I think buyers is now going to look at the Vios and then look at the Rio and say, why would I want to pay hard earn cash for a kosong Vios?

Looking at how well the Forte performs, I'd say there's a shift in buyer's mentality towards Korean cars. They're now more accepted by the masses.

Yes. Toyota is in a difficult position. On one hand RV is very important too them. Especially the Vios may not lose value too much. If it does, that would be bad for sales. So people can't look at the Vios and think... wow, this is so great, there is no way I'll buy the Dugong anymore. It has to be bad enough that there is still interest in the old one.

However yes, we have seen on the Camry that a too basic spec will also do bad things to sales. Too much competition these days, and the superiority of contis and to a certain degree even Koreans is just too great. They need to improve a lot to be competitive again.

But if they replace engine etc., people may say: Oh, all new, wonder how reliable it is. At the same time, other brands are already a few generations into their new engines, gearboxes etc., so they are by now proven. First gen DSG horrible, but new ones are fine. etc. The Prius C isn't doing as good as it should, right? Perhaps because it is too modern?

Basically they may have already losts the game, and there is nothing they can do about it. Either way they will lose, the question will be if they can minimize the damage.

I'd try to go a middle way. Full safety spec, you won't want a PR disaster at ASEAN NCAP. They are in a very fortunate position to phase out the current Vios before side impacts happen, something that would hurt Dugong RV very bad (I do hope ASEAN NCAP doesn't care and will test the Dugong anyway). So 6 airbags and ESP is important, you'll want a 5 star rating. Engine stay the same, but replace the gearbox with a 6 speeder. Rest stays the same. 1 year down the road introduce an improved Vios, new, smaller engine, more features inside. Perhaps keep introducing features to reach the competition over time. First as option, then make them standard.

WOAH!! Doesn't look like a toyota!! Suddenly so sporty!
Wonder how will the pricing be like.

This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Feb 8 2013, 02:07 PM

can i book now?

Nah, they won't lose. With the new Vios pending, they can easily claim it is a new generation with many new exciting features such as

1. 2 more airbags - that's 2 more from the current model
2. VSC - There's an extra safety feature! Only problem would be they having a harder time explaining why such a feature is omitted from the new Camry.
3. If they do use a new engine, it would probably be the new 1NR-FE engine. The 1NZ-FE has been a solid performer for many years, I can only imagine the 1NR or 2NR-FE to be even better. "New" engine also proven reliability and spots dual VVT-i, can charge premium somemore!

I suspect the Prius C not doing very well largely due to the car being a hybrid. But it's not exactly a poor seller either, on average I see at least 2 or 3 Prius C on the road everyday.

As long as the car is as good or slightly better than the current Honda City, they will sell.

and hope they use the 7 speed CVT transmission found in the current altis

I mean Toyota depends on good resale value. A much improved Vios will hurt resale value of the old one, since people would rather top up a bit to get the new one.

Of course despite this there can be strong sales since the new Vios may be quite attractive. But how about long term sales? The good Vios resale value is what sells a ton of Vios, Altis and Camry. It is very important to Toyota.

VSC will soon be standard on all Toyota's (where possible). ASEAN NCAP will ensure that. If this is an entirely new Vios it should be able to get 5 stars, so VSC is needed to really get that rating. 4 airbags are also a must, perhaps 6 in high spec.

Yeah, basically the Prius C is too modern for Malaysians. That is why I think Toyota can't make the Vios too modern, it may alienate potential customers.

Basically they need to carefully balance things in order to keep their carefully crafted reputation and to nudge it in the right direction. Otherwise they will end up another me too car maker in Malaysia.

plz not that weak engine..i prefer toyota use back the current engine..juz change the gearbox to CVT or watever

make it to have an option of a turbocharged diesel engine 1ND-TV 1.4l i think can have a good fuel consumption..

This post has been edited by megat89: Feb 8 2013, 07:15 PM

with clear pic like tis their own current Vios oso will offer bug disc soon

Told ya, sell your Vios fast before the RV drops. Now it is almost too late.

Diesel... Would be interesting, but Toyota isn't so strong in terms of diesels, and their typical customers would probably shy away from it. Makes more sense to see that from Ford, VW or Renault (if they launch the Clio). Though diesel IMHO make more sense in big and heavy cars. C segment and above.

when i want to set up family, i want a wife with this characteristics:

在家是贤妇
出外像贵妇
上床变荡妇

who knows the one i married, has what i wanted but in different order

在家是贵妇
出外像荡妇
上床变贤妇

I wonder what will be the spec of new VIOS J, the best among its variants.