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jchong
post Feb 8 2013, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Feb 8 2013, 12:08 AM)
Lately Googling FISH OIL gets a lot of disclaimers saying no benefit.

Wondering here whether proponents have counter-arguments?
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To be more specific, the claim is that fish oil supplements do not help increase heart health. This is as a result of a study in Sep 2012. You can read it here: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/fish...ory?id=17211288 and watch the video also.

I'm also following this story with interest since there are comments that the study was flawed and that fish oil has other benefits.

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post Feb 8 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Feb 8 2013, 08:05 AM)
To be more specific, the claim is that fish oil supplements do not help increase heart health. This is as a result of a study in Sep 2012. You can read it here: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/fish...ory?id=17211288 and watch the video also.

I'm also following this story with interest since there are comments that the study was flawed and that fish oil has other benefits.
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Fish Oils do have many benefits apart from health alone....btw the video tend to subject a debate of fish oil supplements necessity vs fish as food of 2 days a week. I think thats what Dr. Richards implies.

Read more here
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22902522
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22340541

you may search for more articles there.

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post Feb 8 2013, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Feb 8 2013, 12:08 AM)
Lately Googling FISH OIL gets a lot of disclaimers saying no benefit.

Wondering here whether proponents have counter-arguments?
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It has no benefit for the fish who's oil we're taking if that's what you mean.
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post Mar 20 2013, 03:44 PM

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for fish oil expert out there, is this one potent enough? Planning to order 1.

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Ultra-Omega...0-Softgels/8341
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post Mar 20 2013, 03:54 PM

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im consuming one/two caps 1000mg daily.. i dont see any problem there. now my bad cholesterol dropped from 5.8(high) to 4.2(normal)
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post Mar 20 2013, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 20 2013, 07:54 AM)
im consuming one/two caps 1000mg daily.. i dont see any problem there. now my bad cholesterol dropped from 5.8(high) to 4.2(normal)
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That's just 2g. The context in this thread is a dosage of 30-45g. It's not unsual to have regular dosages of 4-6g in athletes so of course you're not going to see a problem with your intake.
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post Mar 20 2013, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(ApeKG @ Mar 20 2013, 03:44 PM)
for fish oil expert out there, is this one potent enough? Planning to order 1.

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Ultra-Omega...0-Softgels/8341
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Yeah it's potent enough.
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post Mar 20 2013, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Mar 20 2013, 06:25 PM)
That's just 2g. The context in this thread is a dosage of 30-45g. It's not unsual to have regular dosages of 4-6g in athletes so of course you're not going to see a problem with your intake.
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yeah i just follow the instruction saying 1-2caps for adults
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post Mar 29 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ApeKG @ Mar 20 2013, 03:44 PM)
for fish oil expert out there, is this one potent enough? Planning to order 1.
http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Ultra-Omega...0-Softgels/8341
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This is what i have been taking since i started taking fish oil, ~3yrs now. I found it to be the cheapest, and most potent EPA/DHA.
Its also where i buy from. Lowest postage delivery.
I take 2 in the morning, and 2 at night.
Apart from all the positives of fish oil, I believe its helped lower&maintain my BP at optimum. Most of my family are on meds for high BP.
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QUOTE(CnT @ Mar 29 2013, 11:29 AM)
This is what i have been taking since i started taking fish oil, ~3yrs now. I found it to be the cheapest, and most potent EPA/DHA.
Its also where i buy from. Lowest postage delivery.
I take 2 in the morning, and 2 at night.
Apart from all the positives of fish oil, I believe its helped lower&maintain my BP at optimum. Most of my family are on meds for high BP.
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great. Yeah, i already received the fish oil from iHerb. Super cheap for the EPA/DHA content very affordable shipping fee. Item arrived after 3-4 days only using DHL express.
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Question is...what is/are the 'other' ingredient(s) and is/are the 'other' ingredient(s) in the fish oil safe to be consumed that much?

Example for average fish oil, only 300mg of omega 3 present in 1000mg of a capsule,so what makes the other 700mg?

And as I get the calculation from here,
isn't 300mg is cheaper than 750mg as per calculation below?

1) 300mg
Price: RM26.01 (exclude shipping)
Total DHA/Omega3: 300mg x 200 pills = 60,000mg
Price/100mg = RM0.04335/100mg

2) 750mg
Price: RM74.77 (exclude shipping)
Total DHA/Omega3: 750mg x 180 pills = 135,000mg
Price/100mg = RM0.05539/100mg

Furthermore, the 750mg price is around 2.9x of 300mg, which means you can buy 3 bottles of 300mg (600softgels).Taking 3 softgels per day can last for 200days compare to 180days and you can get 540mg of EPA and 360mg of DHA instead of to 500 + 250.

Of course, at first glance it is better to buy the 75% as it is twice as much higher than the 30%

Therefore I am asking, what is the other 70% in the 300mg,and is it safe to consume that much of the 70%?

Yes,I know this thread is about megadosing the fish oil and people may argue that more pills are needed to pop for the 300mg laugh.gif



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post Apr 9 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(HyourinMaru @ Apr 4 2013, 01:06 PM)
Question is...what is/are the 'other' ingredient(s) and is/are the 'other' ingredient(s) in the fish oil safe to be consumed that much?

Example for average fish oil, only 300mg of omega 3 present in 1000mg of a capsule,so what makes the other 700mg?

And as I get the calculation from here,
isn't 300mg is cheaper than 750mg as per calculation below?

1) 300mg
Price: RM26.01 (exclude shipping)
Total DHA/Omega3: 300mg x 200 pills = 60,000mg
Price/100mg = RM0.04335/100mg

2) 750mg
Price: RM74.77 (exclude shipping)
Total DHA/Omega3: 750mg x 180 pills = 135,000mg
Price/100mg = RM0.05539/100mg

Furthermore, the 750mg price is around 2.9x of 300mg, which means you can buy 3 bottles of 300mg (600softgels).Taking 3 softgels per day can last for 200days compare to 180days and you can get 540mg of EPA and 360mg of DHA instead of to 500 + 250.

Of course, at first glance it is better to buy the 75% as it is twice as much higher than the 30%

Therefore I am asking, what is the other 70% in the 300mg,and is it safe to consume that much of the 70%?

Yes,I know this thread is about megadosing the fish oil and people may argue that more pills are needed to pop for the 300mg laugh.gif
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Your maths is correct. The 300mg type is cheaper on a mg basis. This is not surprising because 300mg is the most common type of fish oil and there are economies of scale. So the raw material is the cheapest out there.

That said, it's not correct to say the 750mg type is 2.9x more than 300mg. Gotta go back to the per mg price. So it would be RM0.05539 / RM0.04335 = 1.28x

Back to your question on what is the other 70%, it would be oils and fats. You might be consuming a bit more fat with the 300mg type. Example: you want to take 3000mg of EPA/DHA.

300mg type = take 10 capsules
Total fat = 10g
Calories = 100

750mg type = take 4 capsules
Total fat = 4g
Calories = 40
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post Apr 9 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Apr 9 2013, 07:16 PM)
Your maths is correct. The 300mg type is cheaper on a mg basis. This is not surprising because 300mg is the most common type of fish oil and there are economies of scale. So the raw material is the cheapest out there.

That said, it's not correct to say the 750mg type is 2.9x more than 300mg. Gotta go back to the per mg price. So it would be RM0.05539 / RM0.04335 = 1.28x

Back to your question on what is the other 70%, it would be oils and fats. You might be consuming a bit more fat with the 300mg type. Example: you want to take 3000mg of EPA/DHA.

300mg type = take 10 capsules
Total fat = 10g
Calories = 100

750mg type = take 4 capsules
Total fat = 4g
Calories = 40
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Ah my bad for comparing the price of the products which is largely affected by sales/promotions/special prices instead of the per mg.Now I got it.

And it will be troublesome to pop so many pills everyday laugh.gif

Thanks a lot for the reply and the insight notworthy.gif

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