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 Megadosing Fish Oil, Are you actually getting enough EPA/DHA?

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TSwhatdamn
post Dec 7 2012, 02:13 AM, updated 13y ago

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i think most of us are well aware of the benefits of fish oil so i won't give you any further reasons to start taking them if you already haven't.

there was an article that i stumbled across and contains poliquin's recommendation to consume 30-45g of fish oil for 4 weeks and then cut that amount by half. by doing so, you increase the efficacy (that should be the right term) thus speeding up the benefits that most of you are already aware of.

i personally have only been taking total EPA/DHA of 3.6g a day and i can't actually say that my joints feel better than when i wasn't taking them at all which brings me to my little experiment over the next 8 weeks of megadosing as per poliquin's recommendation.

i'll be hitting the pharmacy later today to pick up a bottle of fish oil as taking this 30g in capsule form will be a pain in the ass and not to mention a choking hazard!

logically, one would prefer to split up the consumption of to maybe 5 times throughout the day, about a tablespoon of fish oil should be sufficient per dose because when in liquid form, it's usually more potent than in capsule.

anyone willing to hop on the bandwagon for this little experiment and see what happens? or, if anyone has already tried this amount, do post your positives and/or negatives that you faced.
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post Dec 7 2012, 02:27 AM

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I try up to 4-5 gm per day as per recommended in capsules form (around 12-15 capsules )
and i get explosive diarrhea

and yeah fish oil in local pharmacy/medical store is expensive as hell

This post has been edited by theCrab: Dec 7 2012, 02:28 AM
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:49 AM

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my experience when I took a lot of fish oil caps in one day is that my feces is 'oily' and it is damn fluid. It makes my ******* feel totally uncomfortable.
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:23 AM

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Erm sounds like too much and an expensive endeavour. I will stick to my 1.2 grams (2 tablets) a day.
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QUOTE(shadowz @ Dec 7 2012, 09:23 AM)
Erm sounds like too much and an expensive endeavour. I will stick to my 1.2 grams (2 tablets) a day.
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yeah. But when you had injury and the fish oil is almost expired, taking a lot of fish oil caps seems to be a good choice but actually it is not sad.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 06:36 PM

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i took one capsule daily
1000mg, 180mg EPA 120mg DHA
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post Dec 7 2012, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(raul88 @ Dec 7 2012, 06:36 PM)
i took one capsule daily
1000mg, 180mg EPA 120mg DHA
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Dude no offence but thats an awful. What is the other 700mg of that tablet you taking rclxub.gif To meet the minimum advised 1g a day, you have to consume 4 of those tablets. I hope they weren't expensive...
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post Dec 8 2012, 12:09 AM

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just completed a day of finishing my remaining fish oil caps for a total of 12g. so far so good in the bowel movement department. those who have experienced this 'shitty' side effect, you might consider splitting the intake throughout the day and see if it helps.

i've now switched over to liquid fish oils. took 2 tbsp this morning and omg, i should've listened to my fiancee when she told me fish oil really sucks. i know scott's emulsion is not what one would consider straight up fish oil, but it tasted a hell of a lot better.

some pics of the new oil:
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nutrition info:
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damage: $50 from GNC Canada

raul88,
that is wayyyyyyyy to little fish oil tbh. the EPA/DHA content is really insignificant. at those levels, you would have to be taking at least 20 caps a day to meet the 2-3g recommended intake (imho).
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post Dec 8 2012, 12:16 AM

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Fuyo. Nice high potency fish oil there. Over 1700mg for one or two tablespoon? Damage not that bad either considering the $/mg and how overpriced the lousy ones can be sold for.

I think I will stick to my 1.2g a day for now tongue.gif Maybe when finances allow in future will bump to 2-3g but too poor now-need to stretch supplements to last.
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post Dec 8 2012, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(shadowz @ Dec 7 2012, 09:16 AM)
Fuyo. Nice high potency fish oil there. Over 1700mg for one or two tablespoon? Damage not that bad either considering the $/mg and how overpriced the lousy ones can be sold for.

I think I will stick to my 1.2g a day for now tongue.gif Maybe when finances allow in future will bump to 2-3g but too poor now-need to stretch supplements to last.
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it's actually 1700+mg total PER teaspoon (tsp). since 1 tablespoon (tbsp) is approximately 3 tsp, i'm getting 10.38g total per 2 tbsp. smile.gif aiming for 6 tbsp spread throughout the day so i can have 1 in the morning, 1 at dinner and 1 post workout/before bed. ideally, it would be during breakfast, lunch and dinner but i can't be carrying this bottle around with me as it needs to be kept refrigerated.

if you gave me a choice between buying whey or fish oils, i'd go with fish oils because of the number of benefits it has over protein. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 8 2012, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(whatdamn @ Dec 8 2012, 12:09 AM)
just completed a day of finishing my remaining fish oil caps for a total of 12g. so far so good in the bowel movement department. those who have experienced this 'shitty' side effect, you might consider splitting the intake throughout the day and see if it helps.

i've now switched over to liquid fish oils. took 2 tbsp this morning and omg, i should've listened to my fiancee when she told me fish oil really sucks. i know scott's emulsion is not what one would consider straight up fish oil, but it tasted a hell of a lot better.

some pics of the new oil:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

nutrition info:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

damage: $50 from GNC Canada

raul88,
that is wayyyyyyyy to little fish oil tbh. the EPA/DHA content is really insignificant. at those levels, you would have to be taking at least 20 caps a day to meet the 2-3g recommended intake (imho).
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how do i get this in malaysia
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post Dec 8 2012, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(whatdamn @ Dec 8 2012, 12:28 AM)
it's actually 1700+mg total PER teaspoon (tsp). since 1 tablespoon (tbsp) is approximately 3 tsp, i'm getting 10.38g total per 2 tbsp. smile.gif aiming for 6 tbsp spread throughout the day so i can have 1 in the morning, 1 at dinner and 1 post workout/before bed. ideally, it would be during breakfast, lunch and dinner but i can't be carrying this bottle around with me as it needs to be kept refrigerated.

if you gave me a choice between buying whey or fish oils, i'd go with fish oils because of the number of benefits it has over protein.  thumbup.gif
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Per TEAspoon? Wow! That is amazing value! Definitely investing in that after my current tablets finish rclxms.gif Thanks for sharing!
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post Dec 8 2012, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(theCrab @ Dec 7 2012, 09:44 AM)
how do i get this in malaysia
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your guess is as good as mine!

you could check with GNC Malaysia and see what liquid fish oils they carry. worst case is that you'll have to consume equivalent amounts in capsule form.
TSwhatdamn
post Dec 8 2012, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(shadowz @ Dec 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
Per TEAspoon? Wow! That is amazing value! Definitely investing in that after my current tablets finish rclxms.gif Thanks for sharing!
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it's a good idea to go with fish oil in liquid form simply because it goes down easier than in capsule form. there is however, little to be desired in the taste.
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post Dec 8 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(shadowz @ Dec 7 2012, 07:55 PM)
Dude no offence but thats an awful. What is the other 700mg of that tablet you taking rclxub.gif To meet the minimum advised 1g a day, you have to consume 4 of those tablets. I hope they weren't expensive...
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hm..
i really dont know how much EPA or DHA i need daily
i just read the label
it says one capsule daily

why they only recommend that?
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post Dec 8 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(raul88 @ Dec 8 2012, 02:13 PM)
hm..
i really dont know how much EPA or DHA i need daily
i just read the label
it says one capsule daily

why they only recommend that?
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dude, youre working out. the nutrition requirements are bound to be higher. read up before buying supplements.
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Dec 7 2012, 06:36 PM)
i took one capsule daily
1000mg, 180mg EPA 120mg DHA
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Dec 8 2012, 02:13 PM)
hm..
i really dont know how much EPA or DHA i need daily
i just read the label
it says one capsule daily

why they only recommend that?
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Because they are not obliged to educate you about your personal needs - only sell you a product which you need to ensure is what meets your needs. No one is looking out for you and your health but yourself.

For a person who exercises regularly, regardless of their fitness goals, they should aim for nothing less than 1000mg of fish oil. That number is what I highlighted in red for you. You add the EPA to the DHA to find out how much fish oil you get from a tablet. As you can see, many body builders and athletes consume more fish oil (especially if you do not or cannot afford to eat more fatty fish) than that recommended minimum.

Since you are only taking ONE tablet, you are only getting 300g of fish oil. Barely a third of what you should be aiming for. The '1000mg' is not important and misleads people. For your next fish oil supplement you should look for a good quality HIGH POTENCY fish oil.

I suggest you start taking 3-4 tablets a day (2 in the morning and 1-2 in the evening) so you are getting at least 900-1200mg fish oil. And like I said, I hope your fish oil supplement wasn't expensive.
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post Dec 9 2012, 04:19 AM

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completed day 1 of 30+g of EPA/DHA and no toilet issues. just that my burp smells orange-y. haha!

for the average joe/jane, i'd suggest at least 2g of EPA/DHA a day unless you are on some sort of blood thinning medication as fish oil does thin the blood although the efficacy is debatable.
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post Dec 9 2012, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(whatdamn @ Dec 9 2012, 04:19 AM)
completed day 1 of 30+g of EPA/DHA and no toilet issues. just that my burp smells orange-y. haha!

for the average joe/jane, i'd suggest at least 2g of EPA/DHA a day unless you are on some sort of blood thinning medication as fish oil does thin the blood although the efficacy is debatable.
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Lucky sweat.gif Was worried you were going to come back and be like "OMG! MY INTESTINES!" laugh.gif

Hmmm 2g huh... I could swing that... Lemme read some more and see what I find smile.gif Thanks for the info bro.
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QUOTE(shadowz @ Dec 8 2012, 07:55 PM)
Because they are not obliged to educate you about your personal needs - only sell you a product which you need to ensure is what meets your needs. No one is looking out for you and your health but yourself.

For a person who exercises regularly, regardless of their fitness goals, they should aim for nothing less than 1000mg of fish oil. That number is what I highlighted in red for you. You add the EPA to the DHA to find out how much fish oil you get from a tablet. As you can see, many body builders and athletes consume more fish oil (especially if you do not or cannot afford to eat more fatty fish) than that recommended minimum.

Since you are only taking ONE tablet, you are only getting 300g of fish oil. Barely a third of what you should be aiming for. The '1000mg' is not important and misleads people. For your next fish oil supplement you should look for a good quality HIGH POTENCY fish oil.

I suggest you start taking 3-4 tablets a day (2 in the morning and 1-2 in the evening) so you are getting at least 900-1200mg fish oil. And like I said, I hope your fish oil supplement wasn't expensive.
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hey
thanks for the clarification

btw, i consume scott's fish oil
supermarket near my house sell rm23 IINM for 60 capsule
so roughly 40cent per capsule.


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