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post Jan 22 2013, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(birdman13200 @ Jan 22 2013, 08:58 PM)
It is just my dreaming.
My point is when FSM growth, sure they need to cover major city in malaysia.
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Well, look @ it this way - U have a GREAT REASON to ask for the 0.5% WITHOUT going to the "seminar" (and wasting time + $ to get at the 0.5%) tongue.gif
Try asking and reasoning - U in JB, crazy ar drive all the way to Central for 0.5% service charge special sales? laugh.gif
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post Jan 29 2013, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 29 2013, 01:29 PM)
Hi all,

Just wondering for those who invested for more than 4 years, which managed to experience the 2008 downturn. Did you guys managed to minimized the effect on your portfolio by selling or switching to safer assets class?
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1. for Mutual Funds on programmatic DCA+VCA plan? nope didn't sell/switch
2. for Mutual Funds on trend + individual stocks - yup, sold off once trailing stop loss / trend / trigger hit.
3. Thus, due to (2.), yeah - my losses could have been worst BUT seeing (hindsight always 20/20) as it rebounded within 2-3 years doh.gif

Again, hindsight yar - BUT if markets didnt rebound as it did
+ did a KLCI 1997/1998 double-dip
+ slowly chugged up for 3 to 9 years, only reaching par after 6 years+/-...
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post Jan 30 2013, 02:06 AM

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US market related - Fear & Greed Index
http://money.cnn.com/data/fear-and-greed/

Thought it'd be of interest notworthy.gif

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post Jan 31 2013, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Macrusin @ Jan 31 2013, 05:46 PM)
The market seems like going well recently.
All fund price raised dramatically.
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er.. which market are U talking about ar?

KLCI down 3.93% from recent top,
HK down 0.39% from recent top,
AU down 0.37% from recent top,
SG down 0.10% from recent top,
S&P down 0.39% from recent top,
Brazil down 6.28% from recent top

"Recent" = within 1 to 6 months tongue.gif
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post Jan 31 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(birdman13200 @ Jan 31 2013, 07:04 PM)
Wong sifu, in ur opinion, does current overall market is "too hot". I am not sure whether i should buy in equity fund now, I worry buy at peak point.
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IMHO, it IS generally too hot, except for a few markets.
However, having said that, since i've no crystal balls:
I'm spacing my "chunks" to be in bit by bit every 4 months (to rebalance lar, have a wee bit too much Fixed Income assets)
WHILE continuing my planned quarterly DCA+VCA.

Keep in mind, these days (in US lar), i read that crazy influx of individuals into equity funds & stocks.
eg. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-inves...article7239388/
I like the last paragraph
"... Here’s an ugly fact to think about: According to EPFR, the biggest-ever inflow of money into stocks was $23-billion, in the third week of September 2007. As Bloomberg News pointed out, that was a month before the S&P 500 hit a record high – suggesting the inflows came near the end of a bull market..."

BTW, no sifu here, "chicken investor" only (always looking how far down, before looking how high up) tongue.gif

PS:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-14/p...-inflow-context
Another perspective BUT similar outcome (ie. probability of pain for ingoing individuals) - last paragraph:
"... Will this comparable attempt to send stocks even higher and fool retail to be the dumb money bagholder once again succeed? Or will this time not be different? Of course, back in 2007 we actually had a market: now it is merely a place where the Fed parks $85 billion in freshly printed money each and every month. So maybe this time will be different after all. ..."

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post Mar 12 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 12 2013, 10:17 AM)
And that day at FSM "Lou Sang" dinner the CEO of AMB talked of something along this line, "...we decided to reward investors with a dividend..." I almost wanna start a debate with her laugh.gif
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post Apr 16 2013, 07:59 AM

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In addition to the RED RED worldwide yesterday, last night (MY time), Boston Marathon terrorist bombing!
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/15/explo...omment-page-61/

Pink - unfortunately due to the above, i think there'll be a lelong coming. Unfortunate coz it came from such "evil-ness" sad.gif
Humans... sigh...
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post Apr 23 2013, 01:10 PM

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Just to share a good YouTube
Asset Allocation + Chasing Winners..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=nysLo1hlgvM

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post Apr 23 2013, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 23 2013, 01:59 PM)
Wong Seafood,

Any recommendations for EPF-compliant funds?

I've been looking at Hwang Select Opportunity, OSK-UOB Emerging Opportunity Unit Trust and OSK-UOB KidSave Trust.
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er... i've not looked around much at EPF-compliant funds wor.
Still plodding with PIX, PSSF, PAGF from Pub Mut - coz my EPF siphoned off to Pub Mut's PSBF waaay earlier.
These days... direct into stocks hehe tongue.gif
Thus methinks U da man for EPF mutual funds neh notworthy.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 23 2013, 09:59 PM)
My EPF A/C 1 excess barely 10K. Under this scheme, min. amount is 25K sad.gif
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er.. bro, need only $8K initial withdrawal to start the a/c with Amera neh.
And yes, ETFs, REITs, PBBank, etc - to your previous Q on what to buy smile.gif

Hell, make $ off PubMut's, CWA's, etc profits mar tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2013, 08:18 AM)
So, the link posted which states min. 25K is outdated info? blink.gif
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$25K was with Phillips Mutuals - oooooold one tongue.gif
My initial probing into "self-directed" investments via EPF during early-mid 2000s.

Your link - unsure why Amara is $25K, i was told $8K when i started last year brows.gif

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post Apr 28 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 28 2013, 05:39 PM)
Our venerable Master wongmunkeong's favourite lo brows.gif
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ahem ahem - i've no favourite stocks neh.
their just vehicles to get to a destination - as long as the fare is of value VS the ride, why not?
cheap b*st*rd's method to getting there tongue.gif

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post Aug 25 2013, 11:21 AM

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Interesting stuff - stress testing Asset Allocation (a variety of sub-methodologies)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep841u04ks0lri9/s...est_taa_v01.pdf
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post Nov 18 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(KeroroQ @ Nov 18 2013, 04:23 PM)
People invest in unit trust because they don't have the
time to study the markets and companies, and these
are what things unit trust agents spend time and helping us do
all the work
nod.gif if you'r good and patient, you will study the
companies and analyse the market urself thumbup.gif
There's no 100% win rate return, everything has it's risk rclxms.gif
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Bolded item - sure boh bro/sis?

hm.. most (not all) unit trust agents dont know kaka when i poke them for:
a. details (sharpe ratio, CAGR of moving 3/5/10 years & why such drastic differences)
b. and methodologies (especially DCA vs others in different scenarios / environment vs lump sum asset allocation - heck even the concept of asset allocation)

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post Dec 4 2013, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 18 2013, 05:12 PM)
Well, he's not entirely wrong that investors that have no time leave all to the UT agents to manage on their behalf.

But if you invest in UT yourself that's a different story  smile.gif
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IMHO - it's the concept or WHY that is not too right

One's $ hard earned sweat (unless stolen lar tongue.gif), give to someone else to totally manage is DANGEROUS to say the least, unless they have earned one's trust. At the very least - outsource the running about to agents but do the decisions / asset allocations oneself.

Unless of course one wants to have a scapegoat to blame lar sweat.gif
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post Jan 12 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 12 2014, 12:52 AM)
still can...
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my crystal balls say FOR SURE..
still can... go higher
still can... go lower
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Sigh.. still these kind of Qs around
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post Feb 11 2014, 07:31 AM

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Just sharing:
Franklin Templeton Malaysia is in MY (er.. i may be late to the game, this is news to me tongue.gif)
http://www.franklintempleton.my/en_MY/institutional/home
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post Feb 11 2014, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Feb 11 2014, 11:01 AM)
Haha! Dealt with them awhile back.
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Hi TakoC,

If U know, can share how's Templeton's charges (service charge, switching and back load) and requirements (amount needed to open, top up, etc.)?

Their website has no details - i've just emailed them early morning and hehe opportunity struck (U posting U've dealt before with them awhile back) tongue.gif
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Just thought some investors here may be interested in this:
Credit Suisse Global Investment Returns Yearbook 2014
https://publications.credit-suisse.com/task...1CE20B5D14A7818
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post Mar 13 2014, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(infinityplayaz @ Mar 12 2014, 11:22 PM)
Its about choosing the right fund. Minimal risk mean by comparing with investing by your own. For example : you invest your hard earn money in company A in BSKL,suddenly the stock price drop,100% you lose your money. But if you investing in UT,your money invested in many companies,also not only invested in stock but also in property,forex and etc by professional fund manager. Lets say 1 company drop,there's others to cover the loss.Thats why the risk is minimal,its not 0 risk,but its minimal. Btw just want to share our fund performance since inception. Keyword is patience,longer you invest,more you will get. The best investment is from medium-long term investment. 

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If interested,can pm me for more info.

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Minimal risk = very low risk
Lower risk = lower risk
Thus, personally, i think the word "Lower risk" should be used in your sentence, especially when U are comparing investing on our own VS mutual funds AND the "lower risk" part ONLY applies to single stock falling.
IF the entire market or markets fall, U really think mutual funds are "lower risk" than the stocks they are holding?

BTW, i can achieve the same "lower risk" via ETFs for lower upfront cost + lower annual costs tongue.gif
However, ETFs can get hit by sector or market falls too, like mutual funds.

Note - i've nothing against mutual funds, i personally use them as one of my vehicles for investing. It's just that word - "minimal risk" which jumps at me brows.gif

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