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post Dec 9 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(SoulReaper @ Dec 8 2013, 06:10 PM)
Hi im new in this investment. Im about to invest in CIMB Dali Equity Fund. Asking any master here on opinion before i really go for it.
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hmm.gif just my suggestion.....just don't put all your investment monies into just 1 or 2 funds.....CIMB Islamic Dali Equities fund is a Malaysia focused fund.....you can start with that if you are comfortable to that, but I would suggest after that try build a portfolio of funds that are suitable to your individual risk profile/appetite.

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post Dec 9 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 24 2012, 08:17 AM)
As per many requests, here's the new version - v3:

Unit Trust Basics:

OSK-UOB - Unit Trust Basics
Hwang Investment Management - Unit Trust 101

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David83,
...pls note that the link to OSK-UOB in page 1 post #1 is not working now....pls have look and amend if have to? notworthy.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Nui Nui @ Jan 14 2014, 04:26 PM)
Hi everyone can recommend which units trust can invest in 2014?
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unknown to your risk profile, what is "missing or too much" in the portfolio and etc....
may I suggest you read thru these links first.

Getting Started : Knowing Yourself
We will attempt to read your mind.

Hmmm, OK, yes, yes.. The picture is becoming clearer.

OK, this is what you are thinking.

"I need more money in my life".

Good, aren't we?

Well, the trick is simple. We all need more money in our life. Money to pay our housing loans, car loans, income taxes, and bills, bills, bills. We need money to buy the things we want and pamper ourselves once in while. We need money to start a family, and provide for our children. At the end of the day, when we retire and we stop drawing an income, we still need to have enough money to live day to day.

Yes, it's tough.

But the good news is that we can retire comfortably. By investing wisely now, all of us can generate enough cash to deal with all of the above, and more.

However, before you jump in and start investing your hard-earned money, there are several important things that you would need to know about yourself first.
•How much do you really need? (Future Planning)
•How much risk can you take? (Risk Level)
•How long are you willing to wait before you see profits? (Time Horizon)

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...d.svdo?PageID=1

or if you are already comfortable with what you know,....
try this from FSM
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tormaincode=All

This post has been edited by yklooi: Jan 14 2014, 06:57 PM
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post Feb 3 2014, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Feb 3 2014, 12:19 PM)
Where should I start and what should I read before getting in this game?
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hmm.gif try start with this if you like...it can be a good starting point.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...d.svdo?PageID=1

then click at the links (at the bottom of each article) to learn more.

or if got time read what had been posted in lyn. (start with page 1 for most of the important info are there)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2601692
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2064127
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2466037
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3011236

hmm.gif not necessarily must start big.....start with monies that "can" be lost, start young, do regular investment, give your investment more time in the market than timing the market and once in a while review you holdings.

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post Feb 17 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(abcstop @ Feb 17 2014, 12:48 PM)
is investing in bond risk free?
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some of the risks scripted here
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...s.svdo?PageID=3
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post Apr 28 2014, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(aka_sakabato @ Apr 28 2014, 12:58 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. Could you please suggest more realistic rate?
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hmm.gif i would say, with yr stated portfolio...it would be rough estimate of about 6~7% p.a X 5 yrs = 35% BEST.
bcos...
invested RM 12500 x 7% = RM 875
in it, 40% FD at RM 5000 at 3.3% pa BEST (RM 165)
RM 875 - RM 165 = RM 710
60% UT at RM 7500 needed to generate RM 710 is about 9% average.
out of this 60%...26% of it (Cimb Islamic Enhanced sukuk) is historically generated about 5.3%p.a
26% of RM 7500 = RM 2000 is at 5.3%pa. = RM 106
RM 710 - RM 106 = RM 604 is to be generated by a returns from 34% UT (RM 5500) which would be about 10.6% pa

check out the historical performance trends of the other funds in yr intended portfolio to see how it goes.

BUT it can go both ways...past performance MAY not guarantee of future performance.

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post Aug 6 2014, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Aug 6 2014, 03:22 PM)
hi everyone, wanna ask Prudential saving plan is it consider as a investment ?
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Definition of 'Investment'

An asset or item that is purchased with the hope that it will generate income or appreciate in the future. In an economic sense, an investment is the purchase of goods that are not consumed today but are used in the future to create wealth. In finance, an investment is a monetary asset purchased with the idea that the asset will provide income in the future or appreciate and be sold at a higher price.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/investment.asp

hmm.gif but is there other better investment out there that can provide better returns at the same level of risk appetite and time frame?
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post Aug 24 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Aug 24 2014, 05:15 PM)
Hi all,

After Malaysia, I'm considering a new fund with holdings at the Asia ex Japan region. Given the similar returns, should I buy into fund priced at over RM1 or those below RM1?

Was doing a cursory review and affixed myself at Hwang Select Asia Quantum vs CIMB-P APAC Dynamic Income. Your take?

Edit: Granted, the risk and volatility is difference how should one view the difference in unit price?
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When it comes to shopping, we usually make our intuitive judgments about the value of goods by their prices. However, this principle does NOT apply to fund shopping.

It is a common misconception for investors to believe that a lower fund price makes a fund more "attractive" while a higher fund price means the fund is "expensive". In fact, whether a fund is expensive depends strictly on the valuation of its underlying assets. The unit or the Net Asset Value (NAV) price of the fund bears little significance.

Don't Let The High Fund Price Deter You [27 Apr 2012]
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2288

hope that this article can helps you decide. notworthy.gif
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post Aug 25 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Aug 25 2014, 03:27 PM)
Ok fellas, got it. Thanks MNet for throwing another fund into the mix.

I'm looking beyond our shores so these are some choices before me. Much appreciated.
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rclxms.gif just hope that you can wait till 28 Aug 2014 icon_rolleyes.gif

Post #2464
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3186068/+2460#entry70002001

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/home/index.svdo?

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post Sep 3 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(guest1101 @ Sep 3 2014, 10:35 AM)
Appreciate all the comments, guys....
Anyone kind enough to give propose a portfolio? smile.gif

Thanks.
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hmm.gif may i suggest you understand/know your risk appetite first,
then you may read up samples of portfolio from here
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/fundview/...tor_Aug2014.pdf

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/inves...ntportfolio.tpl?
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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Sep 6 2014, 10:06 PM)
I have two UTs held over many years with good returns to date. One is a balanced fund, the other an equity growth.  If I feel there will be a substantial drop in the next year, should I sell these off or sell part (how much)?
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have crystal ball(s) at hand? tongue.gif
which region/country/sector of the equity fund that you are holding? has the region/country/sector now over valued too much in terms of P/E when compared to others?

hmm.gif just my mind thought...
if funds are purchased based on risk profile, purchased at the right market valuation, portfolio are constructed based on the right risk profiles and invested with investable monies, then why sell as UT has always been long terms...unless you are sure the crystal ball are correct.

found this on the web.
The Stock Market Is In A Correction. What Should We Do?
What history tells us about market crashes

As the very first incarnation of our local stock market only appeared in 1973, there’s a shortage of solid historical data as compared to the stock market of say, the United States. So, let’s take our cues from the Western economic giant.

My American colleague Morgan Housel once did a nifty piece of work by studying the frequency of stock market crashes in the country going back to 1928. Here’s what he found:
Magnitude of market crash and Historical frequency
10% Every 11 months
15% Every two years
20% Every four years
30% Every decade
40% Every few decades
50% 2-3 times per century
Over the past 85 years in the USA, its stock market has fallen by 10% from a recent high every 11 months – that’s more than once a year. When looked at through the lens of history, a market correction suddenly seems mundane and boring.
“One of the most common questions financial TV hosts ask their guests is whether they expect a pullback or a crash to hit the market. It’s an odd question, akin to asking whether they expect summer to occur. Of course summer will occur, and of course stocks will pull back.”

That’s snarky. But it’s true. And here’s the kicker: Despite the S&P 500 displaying ostensibly large amounts of volatility in the past 85 years, it has climbed by 10,000% to where it is today since the start of 1928.


http://www.fool.sg/2013/12/13/the-stock-ma...t-should-we-do/

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 5 2014, 02:31 PM)
You need to have multi-tier account for your saving and investment

1. saving/current account for daily cash flow. Salary bank-in to this account and you withdraw from it for daily spending.
2. Cash reserve/emergency fund (your so-called Saving account). You need to build this up before you invest. Like what david83 said, you can start with 3 months of spending and you can increase later. Some investment guru suggested to have 24 months of daily spending by the time you retire. Don't touch this fund. Don't use it even for investing. Need to keep in fairly liquid instrument, low risk and have some return such as FD, Money Market Fund, ASB, Flexi housing loan account etc.
3. Investment accounts. There is a big world of investing instrument out there. Use excess money to invest. Money that you would not need to touch for years to come since you already have emergency fund. You can start with Unit Trust funds and can buy thru FSM, eUT, banks or mutual fund houses such as Public Mutual. My suggestion is to stick with one vendor in the beginning such as FSM so easier for you to manage it. Research before you invest. Don't just listen to the sales person. Stay with funds that has good track record.  As you gain more experience with investment, then can explore other instruments out there.
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QUOTE(truelife @ Nov 10 2014, 09:38 PM)
I made a mistake investing in Public Mutual last year. So with the comments above, I will have no chance to transfer my Public Mutual units to other providers? The only way is to sell off my Public Mutual units. sad.gif
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hmm.gif just out of curiosity...
what make you sure that investing mistakes won't happens again this time if you transferred to other providers?
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QUOTE(Life_House @ Nov 10 2014, 02:18 PM)

if i wish to get good return in relatively shorter time,
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hmm.gif what is your expected ROI?
What is the duration of this "shorter time"?
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QUOTE(truelife @ Nov 10 2014, 09:56 PM)
1) To study the past performance of the fund carefully.
2) To select funds which are flexible to be switched and transferred, preferably through Fundsupermart.
3) Funds with zero or low sales charge.
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OK. noted.
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1) past performance may not repeat, well at least there is a guide I guess
2) I think PM fund are also flexible to be switched to other PM funds.
3) unless it is a bond fund, most Eq funds has SC...of cos lower than PM,...but since you had already paid SC earlier,...why not stay for a while? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 10 2014, 10:09 PM)
As long as it's not PCSF or other China heavy fund, it'll recuperate sooner or later; just a matter of time.
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He enter PM only last year,...even if it is PCSF or other China heavy funds.....it cannot recuperate sooner or later?
doh.gif I just entered PCIF few months back... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(truelife @ Nov 10 2014, 10:13 PM)
If I compare the Public Mutual equity related funds I have with certain funds by other providers, the PM funds perform weaker than the certain funds. Even though I have paid >5% sales charge for first year, I would rather transfer to other better performed providers from 2nd year onwards.
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would you mind sharing what you got in PM and what you want to switch to?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 10 2014, 10:20 PM)
He doesn't want to disclose the fund he has invested; thus, I just make it some lucky guess.

My guess could be a local fund which invested heavily in small cap or dividend/large cap. With recent volatility on FBM KLCI, I can understand why that fund is still under water if he invested in just few months.
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oh,,,,,guess you are right. thumbup.gif
last year Small caps funds has many top superb performers.....Dividend funds had a good few years of good records too.....I was also "blinded" by greed on that too....thinking history can continue to repeat.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(truelife @ Nov 10 2014, 10:25 PM)
In fact the PM funds I invested have small positive returns, but it is lagging behind some funds by other providers. As an investor, everyone wishes to maximize profit by getting better performing funds.
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rclxms.gif wow,...with 5.5% Sc and yet you can still have small positive returns...
"As an investor, everyone wishes to maximize profits by getting better performing funds".... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif ....
hmm.gif the question is how? History MAY not repeat, no crystal ball to see the future...... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 10 2014, 10:28 PM)
By the way, I don't dare to touch China related fund anymore. whistling.gif

On the other hand, I also made a mistake recently by investing in a dividend based local funds. The fund is still yet to break even as of today.
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my 2 PM dividend fund YTD ROI is about 2%, but my Hw SDF is about 8.9%

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