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post Nov 11 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Life_House @ Nov 11 2014, 11:01 AM)
for the ROI part, i have no idea yet as i'm still very newbie on this..  Would u mind to share more on this ?
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ROI = Returns of investment...which is what you expect to get for this investment?
Duration = how long do you want this investment to be?
Risk = how much do you want to lose with this investment at that duration?

ex...
Roi= 3% pa, duration = 12 month, Risk = 0 loses. then try Fixed deposit.
Roi = 100% duration = 1 day, Risk = 100%...then try Genting.

Generally, there is a good correlation between risks and returns. The higher the risks, the higher the returns are likely to be. However, the key word here is 'likely'. There is no guarantee. High-risk instruments can sometimes crash, and lead to large losses.

So you have to be very mindful of whether your life situation allows you to handle such a crash. If not, it is better to choose less risk products. No matter what you perceive your risk 'appetite' to be.
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QUOTE(Life_House @ Nov 11 2014, 12:03 PM)
how to judge whether or not a fund manager is reliable and with proven fund management skills,
hmm.gif see their past performance track record and also how they manage volatility?...but past performance many not repeat...
and would provide recommendation at the right time according to the fund's up-down period ? 
hmm.gif i think the FH dun recommend to the public.....even if they do publish in the monthly reports...it already happens and at times their recommendations or picks may already changed too.
how about funds from Affin-Hwang ?  any comments ?   thx.
there are some award winning funds and some not that performing funds too...just like any other FH.
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read my reply in green above.
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just a note of caution
Don't Ignore An Investment's Risk Level! Investing Basics
When it comes to selecting a mutual fund, its performance should not be the only factor that investors take into account. The fund’s risk level is also a crucial consideration. We explain why a fund’s Sharpe Ratio and Risk Return Ratio can say a lot about its risk level, and how investors can find these information at our Fundsupermart Fund Selector and fund factsheets.....Author : Eddy Wong
http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...?articleNo=2391

We believe that a good fund manager should be able to deliver good returns, but must also manage the volatility of the fund effectively. In other words, a good fund should have a better-than-average Sharpe ratio or Risk Return ratio. Information for the two ratios can be found in the Fundsupermart Fund Selector; investors can also refer to our fund factsheets for the Sharpe Ratios of specific funds.

Lipper is also a good place to start...
http://www.lipperleaders.com/

Avoid Using Your Rear-View Mirror To Invest...August 16, 2013
Extrapolating historical performance can sometimes be detrimental to investing; we suggest investors avoid relying too much on their “rear-view mirrors” when they invest.....Author : Fundsupermart.com

A popular topic which arises frequently when we talk to investors is the notion of a “best fund” or “best market”. Also, upon further probing, the meaning of “best” is usually simplified to some measure of historical performance over a particular period. Anecdotal evidence suggests a healthy correlation exists between funds which appear on the “top performing funds” list and funds which are selling well, an indication that investors tend to place a lot of emphasis on a product’s track record. Is such an investment approach akin to driving a car by looking in the rear-view mirror?
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3744

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post Nov 11 2014, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 11 2014, 12:04 PM)
My dividend funds in PM (EPF)

PDSF - Public Dividend Select Fund - 9.9% IRR, invested since May 2005
PIDF - Public Islamic Dividend Fund - 11.6% IRR, invested since Oct 2003

My best performing fund in PM (EPF)

PFSF - Public Focus Select Fund - 13.6% IRR, invested since Nov 2004
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rclxms.gif thanks for sharing...
i think it was you that did mention at end of last year...saying local dividend funds would be affect by the rising rate....is that you?
cos my YTD is only 2% ha-ha....
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post Dec 17 2014, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 16 2014, 11:50 PM)
MY postfolio further drop to -11.70% .... scary man....

Not sure if it is the right time to switch to bond or balanced fund now
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hmm.gif guess it is too late to jump.
If time and $$ allows, may I suggest to sit it out and DCA, on that regions that is currently "Cheap" and low on % in a diversified portfolio.
After this this storm is over, try to rethink the emotional experience gained during this time and reevaluate your risk profile and your portfolio to reflect this, or reduce the amount to be invested?
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post Dec 17 2014, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(undertaker007 @ Dec 17 2014, 02:20 PM)
Dear all investors,

I am doing an investment plan with 64% for return in 3 years. It is from a singapore company and kindly PM me if you need to know more about this investment. Thanks.
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hmm.gif If it is this good and legit. (or legally correct but morally wrong)..why must PM? why not say it out loud? notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(chenster @ Dec 17 2014, 03:36 PM)
I have a few questions regarding investment funds..

with the market now, is it a good time to invest in funds?
depending on which market you are looking at......most would suggest forming a portfolio of funds, instead of focusing on 1 or 2 mkts as the main funds

i see mostly u guys are investing by urself? should i engaged agent?
there is an article in here may answer it..
http://investsmartsc.my/investment-product/unit-trusts

which funds are good? im kinda noob here.. public mutual funds, equity funds and other funds are provided by all banks?
what is good?  you need to know yourself first.....my "good" may not be to your liking. A good for a few years may not be good for the next few years...
there are funds from Public mutual, Eunittrust, fundsupermart, hwang asset mgmt and others...not solely banks....btw...becareful of the sales charges...do comparison after decided what to buy.

I've checked and we can withdraw from EPF Acc 1 for the investment. Is it good to withdraw?
if you are nearing 50's...may i sugest putting in EPF...

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hmm.gif while waiting for more valuable replies from sifus....do read my comments in "RED"
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post Dec 25 2014, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(hlyh1230 @ Dec 25 2014, 01:29 PM)
i'd like to start investing in funds, how do i start?
i'm a fresh grad,need your advice~
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if you mean Unit trust....this is a good place to start to find out more
https://www.fimm.com.my/investor/abc-of-unit-trusts/
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QUOTE(prince_mk98 @ Jan 8 2015, 10:52 AM)
bro

Any equity funds more than 10% return u think can ee prospect?

Manulife India Equity? Eastspring Indonesia Growth?
RHB OSK Indonesia Growth?

Now still young can go more aggressive.
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hmm.gif being young may not mean one can go more aggressive.....
you might have thought you are an aggressive investor who can cope with a high level of risk based on the results of the risk profiling test. However, in practice, if you find that you always panic too soon every time the market dips, and get overly euphoric and pump in more money whenever markets are on a roll, then high-risk investments are not so suitable for you because they are likely to cause you to lose money.

Know Your Risks! Investing Basics
It is important to understand the risks of the investments you are considering to invest into. But, it is also crucial to understand your own personal risk appetite.
Author : Mah Ching Cheng

http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...?articleNo=2320

hmm.gif Your question, "Any equity funds more than 10% return u think can see prospect?"
well, can you handle > 30% drops and then stayed flat for > 5yrs?.....


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post Jan 8 2015, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk98 @ Jan 8 2015, 11:35 AM)
Bro,

Of coz I know the risk appetite. Just wan know more to diversify. There are some example of profile ik fms. Just want to get some insights frm sifu here. Some I put in fixed income and a small portion put in high risk funds.
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rclxms.gif good that you have done that.
the next one is..contact the "right and more qualified" and willing to help persons?..see attached tongue.gif


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post Jan 8 2015, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk98 @ Jan 8 2015, 12:02 PM)
Bro,

Your answer like not giving an answer. Just wan experience and comments only. If not willing, then better no need create this forum coz everybody not a professional consultant.
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"Just wan experience and comments only"...now i am giving it to you
because one man's meat may not be another man's food.
what one suggest may not be to your likings.....i just proved that..ha-ha...(example, by asking you to contact CIS)

well,..if you liked this answer better...
YES, these 3 funds (Manulife India Equity? / Eastspring Indonesia Growth? / RHB OSK Indonesia Growth?) that you had suggested is a good buy......preferably buy all of them at 33.3% each of your investable monies.
then go for it now . Don't wait..... cool2.gif cool2.gif

hope you see what i am trying to do....bro prince_mk98 notworthy.gif
in the forum,...whatever experience/comments being told.....are all up to each individual to digest....in the end, one is still best advised to contact the CIS if possible......in the forums....the background and its motives of the posters are not known, but CIS...at least you know where they are from...

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post Jan 8 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk98 @ Jan 8 2015, 03:31 PM)
If all depends on d CIS then the forum got no more ummph alrdy and becomes dull.

what else besides these 3 ut? Cannot be all frm me smile.gif share more la tai kor. D sea of wealth is so huge.

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to add on to what David83 had mention....
for country/sector specify funds.....like you mentioned
Manulife India Equity / Eastspring Indonesia Growth / RHB OSK Indonesia Growth
try allocate about max 7~10% ea country/sector specific.....go higher if yr risk appetite allows it.....
just a note: the current and past performance of a fund may not an indication of future performance.....hope you are not selecting them based on their past performance. sweat.gif

See sector review of India
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/artic...n/pdf_India.pdf
See sector review of Indonesia
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/artic...f_Indonesia.pdf

why not try to use the Recommended Aggressive portfolio in FSM as a guide.....then alter/add/remove some funds and its allocation to cater to your needs?
in there can see the monthly FSM comments and updates info.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/inves...ntportfolio.tpl

read/review the Recommended Portfolio of Eunittrust too for a better view of their picks
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/fundview/...cus_Dec2014.pdf

Investors should also consider having a globally-diversified portfolio to tap into opportunities across the globe as well as to achieve diversification purposes.....from an FSM article.

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Jan 9 2015, 07:22 PM)
Veterans,  any outstanding opportunities now that oil plunged? Funds, not individual stocks.
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hmm.gif unsure if this can help....
In this “Idea of the Week” segment, we highlight three points about lower energy prices, suggesting that it may not be necessarily bad for markets.
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...9-Jan-15--10012

In this “Idea of the Week” segment, we offer three implications for investors from lower oil prices.
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...19-Dec-14--9972

In this article, we offer suggestions on how investors could make money from the US “Energy Revolution.”
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=9138
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QUOTE(prince_mk98 @ Jan 10 2015, 05:11 PM)
bro yklooi,

we are very appreciate very much the links you shared here.

but we are newbie and need to spoon feed. if you are free, can you write some conclusion / comments so that siu tai knows what the underlying messages taikor try to tell. sorry, siutai not try to be disrespect but sometimes after read the links, siu tai also not sure how and what directions to go. if taikor too busy, then ignore abt siu tai's comments. sorry yaa.

TQ very much.
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"any outstanding opportunities now that oil plunged?"
Opportunities in Asian Equities!

While lower oil prices could be a headwind for energy-heavy reliant exporting countries as they see their source of revenues diminish, an environment of cheap oil could actually be beneficial to Asia as a whole. Many Asian countries, with the lack of their own energy resources and reserves (or in China's case where internal consumption exceeds domestic supplies), tend to be net importers of energy-related products like crude oil and natural gas. Countries in the region like Japan, South Korea, Indonesia and India are a few examples of net importers.

A decline in the costs of energy-related imports could not only help improve the current account deficits that some Asian countries are experiencing (Japan, India), but generally expand the profit margins of many Asian corporates and companies that rely on oil in their supply inputs. Naturally, the energy sector would be adversely affected by the fall in energy prices as their revenues diminish, but Asian equity markets as a whole could benefit from this environment of low energy prices. It could also serve as a catalyst for upward earnings revisions in Asian equities, This makes the investment proposition for Asia-ex Japan equities compelling at this current juncture!

try 1 or a combination
CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND
PHEIM ASIA EX-JAPAN FUND
AFFIN HWANG SELECT ASIA (EX JAPAN) QUANTUM FUND
EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS ASIA PACIFIC EX-JAPAN TARGET RETURN FUND
AFFIN HWANG JAPAN GROWTH FUND

geee, I can't speak like that....the above are all copy and pasted from FSM article...lah. blush.gif


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post Jan 10 2015, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk98 @ Jan 10 2015, 06:00 PM)
Local Equity
Eastspring Inv MY Focus
Eastpsring Inv Equity Income

Foreign Equity
Arbedeen Islamic World Eq
Hwang Select Asia Ext Japan Quantum
Manulife Inv India
CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND

AFFIN HWANG JAPAN GROWTH FUND

Fixed Income
AMB Income Trust Fund
RHB OSK Asia Total Return Fund

Maybe I should reconsolidate my portfolio as above. Thanks for the link you share @yklooi
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GLAD to be of help.
if you liked,..can try to start with this,..now the tricky parts...
the % to allocate for each sectors/region then % for each funds....
maybe further analysis of the recommended portfolio could helps.

*some funds are overlapped in coverage...but by having almost similar funds from different fund houses could help to diversify the "risk" that could come from just 1 FH.....just my thinking.

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Jan 10 2015, 09:27 PM)
@ yklooi

Lots of good info, everybody appreciative :-)

My original question was more like, any Msian funds that are energy based like Vanguard VGENX or funds that are heavily weighted into oil, funds now at attractive prices?
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I think the articles are mean to see the impact / implications of low oil prices.
I think one of the article got links to some suggested funds for those that want to play the energy theme.

hmm.gif not sure if you can get from FSM m'sia...
try FSM website..click
Fund Info/fund selector/specialist Sectors/Alternative Investment-Energy.

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post Jan 11 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 11 2015, 10:01 AM)
FSM has commodity fund from specific fund house but it is not totally heavy or pure on crude oil.
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hmm.gif then he should try look for that fund in the ETF?
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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Feb 10 2015, 04:28 AM)
Moved a tiny bit, like most MMFs?
Anyway, what loading fees are involved?
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CMF is classified under Money Market asset class
Q: What kind of charges do I have to pay?
A: There will be no FSM sales charge incurred when you buy or switch-buy into the Cash Management Fund.
The expense ratio is not more than 0.40% p.a. This fee includes the annual management fee. The Net Asset Value (NAV) on the Cash Management Fund is net of the expense ratio.
more info at
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse..._cmf_campaign_c

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 6 2015, 04:27 PM)
But how come my statement still showing losses sad.gif it should reflected in my statement right?

Is it a good time to accumulate more ?
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did your statement shows an increase of units?
if it still shows "old" units held.....then the statement is not updated yet.

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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 13 2015, 12:26 PM)
was aiming for this type of investment after withdrawing from EPF......age 55, retired, want to have some "carefree" life.....
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hmm.gif seems like a good route too.....
eternity4life more info pls?

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QUOTE(Junrave @ May 26 2015, 08:05 AM)
Could anyone tell me whether investing in 1 fund with certain amount or 2 different fund with split amount, which one is preferable and advisable? why?

For example :

RM2000 in Kenanga Growth Fund as initial investment

or

RM1000 in Kenanga Growth Fund and RM1000 in eastspring small cap fund.
As what I understand, diversify in different fund helps to spread the risk in case 1 of the fund is facing losses.
Thanks.
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hmm.gif Both are also VERY M'sia focused....
so not VERY diversify....
(if m'sia got hit...both die)
just a thought.

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