Er, actually, if I am surrounded by elite, and they didnt run, I can drop them in 2 seconds SW > Bear > finish SW the Elite die lol

as for white mob, i walk bear continue walk next mob bear then walk next mob...

i tried widowmaker, abit too slow the animation so stick to RoT

maybe will try around again and see...

Ur Carving Knife (364-903) + Ukh (120-416) + ammy (32-62) = 516-1381 base dmg
Critical Hit dmg 406%
and u say u do 500k - 1m crits? thats pretty high with such low min

my skorn (1077-1496) + rings (38 min) + ammy (31 max) = 1115-1527 base dmg
Crirical Hit dmg 413%
and i only see around 500-800k crits ... 600k-1m if i use SoJ during ubers

maybe i should switch to 1h-mojo to see higher yellow numbers

edit later: Unless u see crits done while ure buffed by Soul Harvest & Gruesome Feast .. then 500k-1m seems plausible .. i almost double my crit if i am max buffed by SH + GF

depend on what mp u r playing also im quite sure on mp8 n above against RD elites with xtra health@shielding u will run out of mana if u spam bears b4 they die

This post has been edited by Gecko: Jan 29 2013, 05:27 PM

I confirm occasionally I saw 1m cric damage... and maybe is on White Mob not Elite not sure...

Most probably I playing in lower MP compare with you guys...

Yeah and confirm on higher MP I run out of Mana easily...

Maybe I try getting a LS skorn... If I can sell of something in my AH :/

If I take out my Mojo, I think only left 41% CC maybe instead of using Templar, switching to Scoundrel help...

So basically most of you all is using LS Skorn build? Just wondering

looking over ur build... i think those 1m crits occur when ure buffed by SH + GF .. which is normal
however during ubers SH & GF cant be used to its maximum potential ... same story for higher mp bcos it'll take longer to whittle down mobs health b4 they start dropping globes

41%CC is good enough to crit often .. i hv 42.5% CC and i see yellow number quite often .. bear (pun intended) in mind that using Bears u send out 3 bears simultaneously so u triple the chance to crit

Imo stick to Templar .. he give u more mana regen plus he's a great tanker if u stack vit on him ... equip him with Stormshield + Azurewrath ... Star of Azkaranth with %chance to freeze if u can afford 1 ... he wont kill but he will freeze elites so it easier for u to spam bears on them .. giving him puzzle ring will also help with more goblin spawn as he get hit a lot

The way i see it and from my own playing experience .. u either go full dps with ias stacking (tal's armor, mempo@visage etc ias gears) and use low mana spell such as GB @ Splinters (check talez profile for his 300k dps build) @ u dont stack ias and use LS Skorn & use Bears spam to be able to do high mp (8 & above) efficiently.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Jan 29 2013, 05:41 PM

Yeah.

My Templar, with below equip. Actually, didnt see him die before already for long time lol unless I KO haha... Dont really want to invest the Azkaranth for the Freeze, quite comfortable with now, unless of cuz I try higher MP... Maybe I try a Skorn first if I able to sell anything...

Sunkeeper
Stormshield
Hellfire
Puzzle Ring
Str Vit MF Amulet

use sun keeper for low mp .. great for MF ... switch to Azurewrath for higher mp (u alrdy get xtra MF from mp lvl) .. Azurewrath is pretty cheap .. dont look for high dps but high freeze chance .. for relic, look for %chance to block @ armor... even without Azkaranth ur Templar will freeze quite often with just Azurewrath.

@Gecko

See you playing DH often

Pinjam me your Skorn let me test test lol

Actually I did try put on a Azurewrath, but my mind keep on tell me the MF MF MF MF lol so put back Sunkeeper XD

Since low MP doesnt matter... High MP maybe...

So in MP7, I can hunt easily with Skorn? My target is full run 20mins to 30mins max

thx bro... currently bid skorn with 14xx dps and 5.8% LS in GAH cant wait to test this skorn...

haha sure can ... i hardly use my WD eversince hitting PL90 (waiting for 1.07 to go live b4 i start grinding para lvl again for the increased xp per mp lvl)... i use my DH to do ubers now (can easily survive up to mp8) .. my barb for key farm ... only time i use my WD when i do gold farming but then i use my cheap (won with only 300k bid) 13xx dps no LS Skorn with 29x vit.. lemme know when u want to test the LS SKorn i will loan to u for few days.

yw bro ... good luck with the bid

not possible.

haha okok thanks will pop you when i in...

anyway... will loss 200 vit from my Serpent lol scary

i lost 197 vit from my EF + ToTD when i made my switch to Skorn initially but i later made up for the loss vit on my ammy & vile ward.. looking over ur current gear, u can switch topaz in ur inna temperance to amethyst (its ok to lose some intel as u need a larger health pool to be able to take some hit) for a quick fix... if u decide to switch to Skorn, my suggestion is to change to a Marrow with 2xx vit (u still hv 19 pickup radius if u lose PR on ur current Marrow ... plus there's a slight increase in base PR when 1.07 goes live)

This post has been edited by Gecko: Jan 30 2013, 05:40 AM

As you don't really need IAS for skorn/bear build.

If i were you, i'd replace the inna pants with a rare with high VIT.
And also replace the Zuni's Marrow with high INT & VIT.

Hi All,


Please know that the suggestion below are base on my own experience and opinion of my own.

As time goes, i replace my IAS with much more Crit Dmg. For now my Char spec is ( 189k dps 100% unbuffed with 600k EHP, from www.diabloprogress.com )

I would like to share this with everyone because i've been super fast WD (2.10+) to slower WD (1.89) and also 0dogs build. In the end, i decide this will be the build that suits me pretty well with bear build with IAS 1.89.

As for the fast IAS, you will spend more mana in a very short time, but please know this, the more you spend means the more you deal dmg to them. and yes the mana ends shortly when you spam your bears SO FAST ! in order to orvercome this issue, that's where IAS come in place, with Widowmakers, you'll get back your mana in Seconds ! then you spam again and again with bears. Also with more IAS, you'll get much higher Crit Chance too.

The lowest rate i could go is IAS 1.89, i find this is the lowest i can go and no way i am going slower than this because i am a 1H + Mojo build WD. With all the right gears, you will survive mp10 easily even you face a RD elites, please know that in 1.07 patch, RD is as easy as nothing, all you need to do is, attack slower and stop spamming your bears. (Despite i only have 2.80 LS but i rarely die even in mp10 (full runs).

I must agree that a 2H skorn provides higher chance to survive in any mp as it gives much higher LS.
You know, sometime people like me just like super fast attack and to be honest, i've also tried the PTR with 1500 dps skorn without LS, and the result is pretty bad due to its lack of IAS. If any of you tried PTR you would understand.
So, i'd say a 1H + Mojo is doing quite alright in both PVE and PVP. ( bare in mind, 1H + good mojo is extreamly expensive ! )

Lastly, 0dog, it provides superb dps despite it shows lower dps in the gameplay.
Aleune was right, 0dogs are lack of survivability especially if the mobs are coming in range, you will have to run around the map and chase them. But its very useful to those mobs that don't usually walk around and boss like Ghom for example. Also the gears for 0dogs are expensive ! especially those rings and amulet. ( i've sold them due to the reason mentioned above )

Hope that helps. See you guys around.

continue my WD journey through Act 3 (MP2 only) last night with the following weird build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;ZeT!cZcaac

might wanna swap out firebomb for something as I mostly spam bear. Suggestion?

corpse spider with widowmakers to get mana for bears

anyone playing hardcore in US server? need more people to run with..

add me if interested:
seeseebee#1541

alright I'll give it a go.


Actually I want to swap in a emerald now / ruby next time , but I afraid losing that 500LoH.

what does cluster b mean?

Bears dont proc LoH as much as RoT @ Acid Rain .. u need LS with Bears
If u use Widowmakers, make sure u use VQ passive to benefit more from VQ mana regen