Haunt might have killed you in few hits.
If Blizz change the damage taken, the whole game play will be changed.

Personally, I would like to have a longer fight so that we see some spamming of various skills due to running out of resources/cool down.

I kill the WD user then few seconds later i see this countless time.

YOU WERE KILLED BY someone with HAUNT.

You sure enjoy as hell killing people around with your 500k dps argh I wish I could have that

all WDs are busy in PVP now?... thinking to make group 4 WDs MP0 fast farming... last nite lucky got 3 WDs in public game.. so fun.

4WD can fast farm MP3...

if 1 of them 0cd c4 dogs best...

unlimited mana spam...

I'm currently dueling against 3 zero CD c4 dogs WD. Anyone using that for PVP?

Not for 1-shot PVP game, not now.

Actually tbh the PVP duelings aren't all one shots. I was dueling with wKkay and Skywavex, it was fun and you get funny moments. Is not easy to one shot and sure it happens sometimes but the rest of the time it was intense!!!!

Do not run. Let them shoot.
You're down in 1-3 shots.

C4 dogs/bears are not really efficient in this situation.
It has to go with hex.

what's wrong with down in 1-3 shots???

I mean i think games like counter strike is/was popular cuz it was fast paced and people love doing head shots.

Besides, balanced/no 1-3 shots games are boring man but yeah i know if u r on the receiving end is not fun.

p.s: Don't need imba gear to own with WD.

I didn't say it's wrong.

I said C4 dogs is not good in this kind of gameplay.
Few reasons, C4 dog is not as fast as other skills. Why C4 dog?
C4 dogs are rather short range too. Likewise the bears.

I'd pick haunt/spiders/pets over C4.

I was talking about PVP in general.

but yeah, c4 dogs aren't as effective as haunt.

Spirit walk -> sacrifice is not bad.

Oh yeah one more thing, haunt is homing right?

From my own PvE playing experience (hv another 10% donload b4 i can start playing PTR), Haunt is not 100% homing. First off u need to face the target b4 u attack using Haunt for the spirit to "home" towards nearest target (i do think there's a min distance as well ... if target too far away Haunt wont reach target). From most PvP vids ive seen, majority of WD used Resentful Spirit rune for shorter DoT hence bigger overall dmg. However if u can guess/predict path which ur foe like to use/hide .. then maybe Lingering Spirit is more practical/useful

Lingering Spirit
If there are no targets left, the spirit will linger for up to 10 seconds looking for new enemies.

DH's literally have the equivalent of the AWP in CS

Won't be surprise if they nerf the homing of WD. It's just too easy at the moment in comparison with other range class

so, you're saying, WD is bad in pve and now blizz should nerf wd in pvp too and make it totally trashed ?
Its super annoying when you pig someone and that someone says " blizz should nerf CC from WD "
Then, when i Haunt someone and that someone says " geez that Haunt its OP blizz should nerf it "
When i use Pets to block them from attacking me, guess what they say..... ( you know it... )

No offense dude, just a pure let go from me.

Hey sky,

CC is going to get nerF. I read it some where. It would be diminishing returns.

About haunt, u r right. it ain't entirely homing. I played with a WD today and his aim of haunt was let's say not so good. Haunt is a DoT spell am i right? and the main problem with Haunt atm is if the first instance it crits, the spell will crit the entire duration which imo i think is not right. Haunt mechanics should be re-work in a way that since it is a DoT spell, each instance of damage after the first instance is independent of whether the first instance crits or not.

Pets? lol. don't play with them la. I think is all about trying to adapt to your opponent.

This post has been edited by 2890: Jan 20 2013, 05:16 PM

CC is not going to get nerf, but CC is going to be IN USE with items that have CC reduction, at current moment, CC reduction items are not working in PTR.

What is for sure going to nerf is the damage dealing to every classes, so the battle will last a little longer
Haunt isn't powerful if you're dealing with lower end wd gears with low crit chance. ( i have 54% crit chance in PVP with 198k dps unbuffed, now imagine if i am a SS DH, i sure still be able to 1 shot people. ) I personally don't think it crits the whole time, its very difficult to get people Haunted (DoT) most dmg deal is per shot, but because i keep spamming the skill, it just Haunts you more than once

i'm pretty sure CC is going to get diminishing returns.

I don't want a battle to last longer and let's say damage dealt is being nerF, it won't do any good because classes with tons of EHP is going to benefit.

Haunt crits the entire duration if you crit on the first instance. It has been discussed and confirmed on the forums after tons of testing.

what do you mean damage deal is per shot? My understanding is once someone's get Haunt (even if the caster doesn't spam), the spell locks on and goes on the entire duration.

and yeah, nothing is powerful if the person uses low end gears. Applies to all classes.

I remember reading a blue post regarding CC, cant find it again to link the post. What i recall is something along the lines of 30% reduction to CC .. it shud apply in live 1.07 but currently not working in PTR. To my understanding a CC effect such as stun of lets say 3 sec will be reduced to 2.1 sec (stacking cc reduction gear will also add up). I also think it was mentioned in that post if CC is reduced to 0.5 n below it will be considered nullified/cc not take effect ... maybe someone can do some calculation to see how much CC reduction needed on gears to get that breakpoint.

Haunt
Secondary
Cost: 98 Mana
Haunt an enemy with a spirit, dealing 575% weapon damage as Arcane over 6 seconds. If the target dies, the spirit will haunt another nearby enemy.

Crit dmg for any DoT type of spell/attack is calculated on the first hit then its spread over the time of the spells DoT duration.

btw Sky afaik DoT attacks for WD does not stack .. it refreshes the DoT .. so if u crit its better not to attack with same spell again until DoT timer is over ... im not so sure if DoT for diff spell/attack will stack eg Haunt then Acid Cloud .. will both DoT stack?

This post has been edited by Gecko: Jan 20 2013, 09:03 PM