@gecko: i cant find back where i read them but it has been ages.... since like june/july.

i am very tempted to change my weapon but my cheapskate nature doesnt allow me... bought 1 15m manajuma with LS+socket but only increase 3 to 4k dps... i dont think it is worth it so i sold i back sigh. Need to pray that it drop for me then

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/aries-6543/hero/28927652

Updated Liao. Found that Acid Rain is pretty useless in high lvl mp, and unbreakable grasp is more useful for kiting. Total IAS now is 2.12.

wah u play ias and cc only? all the way splinter or ghost bomb ar?

If u use Acid Rain as main damage dealer ofc its a waste .. at high lvl mp AR is used for fast life regen (i need only spam 3x AR to get back max life from a near death situation)
Acid Rain only shines as damage dealer on low lvl mp (mp0-mp1) provided u have high base damage + high crit chance. There's no other attack in WD arsenal that can make u speed run mp0-1 for the best xp/per hr (paragon leveling) other than AR.
24 yards AoE and a pack of white mobs can all be hit by AR .. at 11xk dps i crit around 2xxk using AR and multiply dat by how many mobs in a pack.
If u wanna know how fast my speed runs are .. ask Henry lolz he joined me for a half-run b4 i had to stop n go for lunch.

Can't afford ias, cc, cd ring yet. Basically playing this to push up my dps. Wish I have higher fear chance on my echoing though... That would be perfect for my splinter build. I use acid rain for lvling and unbreakable grasp on mp8 über.

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Added on December 2, 2012, 8:23 pmI used to have a skorn int earlier on, sold that and made a nice profit. But I would say my current build is more efficient in pushing lvl, for my splinter build. Add me in game and run with me.

This post has been edited by inuyasha88: Dec 2 2012, 08:23 PM

it seems like u dont have much AR lol... not needed in high mp ar? can survive mer? i haven try b4... or i dont dare to try lol

2nd hand weapon use for bears better, if u are goin for ias atk like splinter and bomb better dual wield

This post has been edited by renishi: Dec 2 2012, 08:25 PM

@renishi
AFAIK there's no cap for LoH other than different attack has different proc rate.
Refer to this documentation for details: 1.05 WD Proc Coefficent Rate
From my own experience i can say that AR & RoT gives the best LoH proc since both are DoT attack (u get back health back over duration of DoT) and AR seems to give the max life back due to its large AoE (more mobs getting hit = more LoH proc = more life back) plus as compared to RoT u dont need to target precisely when using AR (cases when u are near death and running away)
Bears on the other hand benefits more from LS due to its huge damage (more if u crit) and this too afaik has no caps.

The only way i know to gain huge dps boost is to stack CD and CC (wpn with high base dmg + base roll of CD + OS). If u choose a black wpn (pure physical dmg .. no elemental dmg) such as EF ... +%elemental dmg will also boost your dps considerably (zuni boots, tal's ammy etc). Another fast way is to boost dps is by stacking avg dmg stats on jewelry (rings n ammy).

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Added on December 2, 2012, 8:51 pmFear on EF saved me from death so many times back when i used it (still hv 11xx dps EF with OS in my stash but rarely use now). Its a love @ hate it affix (usually in party play some wont appreciate it if mobs keeps getting fear and run away).

Yeah i will add u later when i start playing (atm still hv few tv series to watch .. maybe in another 1-2 hrs). Would love to see ur fast splinter build in action. Interested to see how fast splinters clear mobs on low mp & how it fare when dealing with RD packs on high mp. Maybe we do act 3 mp1 speed runs & act 2 mp5 key runs in VoA (plenty of RD packs in VoA hehe).

Btw splinter has 0.333 proc rate and its not a DoT attack anymore explain why low fear proc .. test it using RoT and see if the fear procs more often. Imho your ias build would benefit a lot from a witching hour ... u shud get 1 and see ur "machine-gun" become ultra fast haha ... i hv an unused WH: 100 intel + 7 pickup radius + other default stats (ias, cd) if u r interested

This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 2 2012, 08:56 PM

yeah and i the last few days i saw u went uber i didnt dare to join lol cus 0 im haha.... hunting keys at mp1 and mp5 but it doesnt drop much sigh

Whisper/PM me in-game if u see me on9 and need a partner to do key runs on higher mp ... i alrdy hv 8 sets of keys but always willing to get more
My uber party always hv open slot if u r interested to join (sumtimes i just do ubers in 2-player party and we do just fine on mp6-7 .. most of the time i get 2/3 organs). PM me if u wanna join and i will gladly send an invite.

sure sure and i saw u 2 times uber at 4 to 5am hahaha. When u told me morning i was expecting 7 to 8am but this is a surprise haha. Good i need a partner to hunt key later... i owe my fren 3 im as they brought me on a free ride last week

Lol i uber early in the morning bcos my barb partner is a canadian .. so its evening there (12 hrs diff). Also 4-6 am is the time i wake up and feel lucky to get good drops & organs from ubers haha.
Yeah we can do some key runs later if u want to ... mp5-6 shud be a good MP to do for me as can do at reasonable time with a good chance of key drops.

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Added on December 3, 2012, 8:14 amFinally made the switch from Jousting Mail + Lacuni to Inna Temperance + rare bracers today and gained 20k dps (had to change topaz to amethyst in ammy's OS to make up for vita loss from Jousting Mail)

Speed Farm setup: 130k dps, 1.26 aps, 41% CC (47% CC for Acid Rain), 370% CD, 700 AR, 32k health
Key/Uber setup: 112k dps, 1.17 aps, 35% CC, 403% CD, 750 AR, 43k health

For uber setup i change Giyua to Vision (for more Vit) & HF ring to Pox (more AR, CD & +20 mana regen)
Now able to bump up my speed run to mp2.. almost same time taken to clear as mp1 since white mobs die with 1 click of AR, only Elite packs take a bit longer. However the increased xp gain make it faster to lvl up.

Next upgrade:
- Vile Ward @ rare shoulder with pickup radius + vita
- Craft a HF ring with CC% roll.
- Vision & Pox with CC% roll.

The way i see it, i should be able to break 200k dps if i upgrade my jewelry with high CD roll (atm almost 0 CD on them, just rely on CD from Skorn). max all CC on gears & get a higher dps LS Skorn with higher base CD roll. There's still a lot that can be improved on my gear setup but its definately gonna cost me a lot from now on

This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 3 2012, 08:16 AM

back from hometown... now i am free to d3...

joined Gecko's half session... what i can say is he farm super duper fast...

even coop 2 ppl, mobs hp increased, he still can "lalila" AR and dash all the way...

after i see his speed, i no more mood run my WD, so i go cont my Fem WD... now lvl 42 LOL...

why??? nothing la... just want to play all 5 classes male and female...

mind to share the route for act3 run suitable for WD?
and total estimated duration~

we have oppa doodle run for wizard.. we WD need one also!

Mostly I only do keep 2, 3 -> Stonefort KW. Rinse and repeat.

core > keep 3 2 1 > bridge rakkis > stonefort... repeat...

and owww yes, my femwd... ^^

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HenryLo...2/hero/29094567

LOL that ammy brape haha

Depending on your playstyle and choice of main attack/damage dealer, WD can speed farm act3 mp0-mp1 pretty fast.
Few notable areas not to be excluded for xp runs are: Arreat Crater 2, Field of Slaughter & Keep Level 2. These 3 places are the most packed areas with high density of white mobs.

For my own speed run i choose to use Acid Rain as my main damage dealer bcos of its Huge AoE makes it possible for me to clear whole pack of white mobs with just 1 click of AR. Spirit Walk/Jaunt & Horrify/Stalker is used to minimise travel time between packs (with Grave Injustice passive ... u can practically AR > Jaunt/Stalk > next pack n repeat the process). Circle of Life + Sacrifice combo is chosen to make sure i dont run out of mana when facing Elite packs, plus Sac is a huge damage dealer as well (275% wpn dmg x number of zdogs). Big Nuke + Mana Back = awesome. Garg/Restless Giant is for that xtra dmg against Elite packs .. can be replaced by anything u want .. summon zdog can be used here to get zdog in emergency cases where ure dont hv zdog from CoL (prolonged fight with tough Elite packs). RoT is my backup attack for situations like Jailer or hitting behind obstacles.

As for the route i choose,, its pretty much similar to Alkaizers. The key is to get 5 nv stacks ASAP so dat u gain xtra xp/mf/gf after that.

1-Start at Core (entrance of Azmo lair) and travel backwards to WP (for the duration of the run .. try to Jaunt/Stalk to big packs n avoid single/small number mobs .. u can still attack while in Jaunt/Stalk mode and proceed to next target).
2- WP to Tower of the Damned Lvl1 .. make one full circle back to WP (u should be hv 4-5 NV stacks by now) .. some ppl go up to Crater 1 but i find Crater 1 layour a bit confusing and hv possibility to take wrong turn so i avoid it. So i just take the WP to next area.
3- Crater 2 .. this is the 1st xp gold mine .... huge packs of scorpions is the best xp provider .. make sure u clear whole pack of em (killing 1 pack will ensure ur Jaunt/Stalker CD is refreshed so can use again). From my own experience, i can say that the correct turn to take to get to Tower of Cursed 1 s always on the right hand side.
4- Tower of Curse 1 .. some might skip this as white mobs are not so packed but i do it to get better chance of item drops (at least 2-3 Elite packs here).. its a pretty straight forward map and i just Jaunt/Stalk till i find an Elite pack to kill. Go till stairs (entrace to lvl 2) and TP back.
5- If u pick up rares/ToS/gems this is a good time to put them into stash to free inventory again.. WP to Rakkis.
6- Rakkis ..one notable thing in Rakkis is u might find some events that provide event bosses (good chance of drops ... i personally hv some notable loot from them)... if xp & time is more your concern, skip doing events (store, spyglass, helping the liutenant).. work your way to Field of Slaughter asap while killing along the way to get CD on Jaunt/Stalker.
7- Field of Slaughter ... another packed areas but quite "dangerous" as some pack combination can be deadly if not careful (Pestilence + Tremor + Mologs can kill u fast) so be xtra careful not to pull so many packs together ... make 1 full circle (clock wise @ anti clock wise whichever u prefer).. after making 1 full circle u can either TP back or make a straight line dash to WP.
8- WP to Keep 3 .. shud be arnd 2-3 packs of Elites in Keep 3 .. once u alrdy killed 2-3 Elie packs find entrance to Keep 2 (the breach).
9- Keep 2 .. this is where the "magic" always happen for me lolz ... so many drops i had from Keep 2 & most xp as well .. try to clear whole area till u find entrance to Keep 1 (if u get to a dead end can tp back and wp to keep 1).. thing to look out for in Keep 2 is the !@#$%^ maniacs .. haha. Kill them b4 they get close or if they get too close use Jaunt/Stalk (u cannot be killed in SW mode).. most of the time death occurs when u break a door and find a pack of maniacs waiting behind it.
10- Keep 1 .. can be skipped if prefer not to wander around it as mobs are not as packed as in Keep 2
11- Another optional area is Stonefort ... u will spend a noticeable time going thru alternative route (up a tower and below side passage) to look for Warden. However most mobs are easy to kill .. just make sure u kill 1st the shaman or whatever the name is that keeps reviving those small buggers.

I am not sure the exact time i take to do full speed run but i will time my next run and let u know .. also how much xp gained per run. Roughly from PL 60-65 doin mp1 speed run covering this area i gain 1.5 - 2+ bar.

@Henry
Lolz .. we shud do another full run nxt time .. sry bout the other day bcos i had to leave half-way for lunch ... i can speed run mp2 now with my increased dps so mp1 in coop shud be a breeze .. haha.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 3 2012, 11:26 AM

@ Gecko...

lai lai... bring me speed run...

btw, i just cant resist to pickup those light blue stuff... LOL

i follow alkaizerx's run

Start from azmodan entrance

Core > tower of damn lvl 1 > arrear lvl 2 > FOS via rakkis crossing > keep lvl 2 via keep lvl 1

as of now 16min to finish exp gain is only 10+mill atm. 16min excluding finding the key warden

swt... 16mins

my whole run take me 1hr10mins..
start from rakkis crossing all the way to field of slaughter& ice cave
then stonefort > keep lvl 1,2,3 > siegebreaker >all the way to azmodan

feel like not efficient

personally i prefer long run .. but want to make it 40-50mins best for me..
1hr10mins is too long to me

any place i can skip in act3 full run? jusst to save 10-20mins..