lesson learn. not to jump start another car? hehehe...

guys, our 2011 insight market value now is only 60 to 65k. why are u guys insuring it so high?

weird...i have did a battery jump start for my dad..never encounter any issues after that

Maybe it already a ticking time bomb waiting to explode...

Hello fellow insighters, is been awhile..

I am going for my 20k service soon, hence i would like to asked those that have done their 20k service on how much they are paying. roughly

For insight fl 2012, how much to to insure ur car, how much are you paying for the insurance?

Next month so painful, insurance 2.7k loan 1.3k plus service 1k( estimate)

When i renew my insurance before new year they told me there is a minimum market price to follow and there told me 75k is the minimum...

no choice..you have to treat your car like your wife..haha

How come honda insight car values so bad

One year drop about 20-25k?!'m

Anyone can clarify? Same to all hybird car also??

Or just only honda insight?!!

do u all aware that the car actually equip with the volumetric
sensor? or only i am the one that dont know about this.

today was reading on the cobra manual to see any way to disable the alarm (since my one sometime get mad itself n trigger alarm itself) but keep the remote lock n unlock from the key.

was inside the car n arm the alarm, then the siren n horn trigger at the same time when i moving inside the car. only then i notice there is such thing in our car.

Gulp..just done the 40K service, gosh the fuel filter cost RM300+

Hi, I went to one Honda showroom today, the SA quote me discount 8k, but I just saw previously some forumer get 13k discount.. SA said only left 1 unit.. Dunno can I get more discount?

You can use Insight to jump start another car quite safely if you follow proper procedure.

The risk of damaging your own car when jumpstarting another car could happen to just any car, not only Insight. And the risk is higher if:

1) Your car have a lot of complex electronics.
2) Your 12V battery is of a smaller capacity.
3) The car your trying to jumpstart have some electrical fault e.g. a short-circuit or a very badly damaged battery.

When you link the jump start cable from your car to the target car, DC current will start to flow from your car to the target car. That's draining your 12V battery (if you had not started the engine of your car), or putting stress to the DC-DC converter (or the alternator if your car is non-hybrid).

From my point of view, a good practice to jumpstart another car (not only from Insight, this is applicable if you are jumpstarting from any hybrid or non-hybrid car):

1) Make sure all the electrical load on the target car is switched off (e.g. lights, wiper, heater, aircond, stereo). And make sure you have a proper jump start cable (some low quality jump start cable being sold cheaply at hypermarket heats up considerably when large current flows over them, make sure the insulation is not damaged, touching a 12V +ve cable to any part of car body or engine surface will means a real bad short-circuit and frying of electronics.
2) Inspect the 12V battery of the target car, make sure it does not show any physical damage e.g. leaking, swelling, terminal corroded badly or low in electrolyte in each battery cell (if wet battery) or the battery health indicator showing 'bad battery' instead of 'recharge require' (for maintenance free battery, usually they have a status window).
3) Start your car engine first, make sure all electrical load on your car is switched off whenever possible.
4) Have someone sit in your car and rev up the engine a bit. for non-hybrid, usually rev till 2k rpm should have the alternator spin up to produce enough extra current. For hybrid, you probably need to rev the engine to the point the IMA is charging (since the 12V power comes from DC-DC converter from IMA, Insight don't have alternator, remember?). By doing so, you will make sure your 12V side have enough current being generated to top up what is used for jumpstart, rather risking over-discharging your 12V battery.
5) Connect the jump-start cable. (If you do not know what I mean here, stop immediately, you are definitely not technically equipped to perform a jump start procedure).
6) Do not immediately start the engine of the target car, leave it for 30 seconds or so in order for some charge to accumulate in the target 12v battery first, so when you start the target car after 30 seconds, the stress to your car 12V would be a bit less cause some charge have built-up on the 12v battery of the target car (if the target car battery is only discharged e.g. forgotten to turn off lights, and not damaged or having internal short-circuit).
7) If the target vehicle start, then just disconnect the jumpstart cable and skip to line no. 9. If after a few crank failed to start the target vehicle, wait a while before trying again. You will notice the jump start cable will heat up due to transfer of large amount of current.
8) If a few more attempt also failed to start the target vehicle, its better to call for tow truck or go buy a new battery to put into target vehicle. There might be some other fault in target vehicle that if you keep on trying jump starting, it might also damage your car.
9) It doesn't stop here. If your car battery is not new (e.g. more than 1 1/2 or 2 years old), it is better you leave your car engine running a while even after you disconnect the jumpstart cable, cause your 12V may have been exhausted and needed to be top back up. If you just shut off your car engine with your 12V exhausted, it may cause permanent damage to your 12V battery (long story, I had explained earlier in some other post that unlike marine battery, cranking battery used in car will be permanently damaged if left in discharged state.

Looks very complicated rite? Well, I cannot guarantee that if you don't follow above procedure, your car battery will 100% get damaged, but if you have no choice and have to perform a jump start, then the above could somehow reduce some risk of hurting your own car for doing a favour to help another car.

One year drop 20 to 25k is about 20 to 25% drop, I thought that's quite normal for imported car?

Hybrid car will have slightly lower resale value due to:

1) There are not a lot of hybrid on the road (as compared to other non-hybrid models). People have perception that when you do not see that car much, means to find a place for repair and spare parts would be difficult, so people tend to shy away from buy that car in second hand market.
2) Honda Insight is CBU from Japan, means any major parts need to be imported. On second hand market, easy availability of parts is one important consideration.
3) When you buy a second hand Insight, you do not know how the previous owner had been driving it. There are too many electronics and complex system in Insight (of course, Prius HSD is even more complex). That create higher chance and more points of failure when the car gets older or second hand.
4) A lot of talk about the IMA battery in the car does not last long, and a lot of people discussing about how their 1 year old car started to develop funny IMA behavior e.g. sudden lost of assist and keep on regen when uphill etc. This is shying away a lot of potential buyer in second hand market (actually this news is also shying away potential new Insight buyer too).
5) The IMA battery cannot be left unused for too long. Second hand car dealer usually keep their cars for months before can find a new buyer. Buyer will consider twice because they do not know the condition of the IMA battery. Buyer can bring an expert mechanic to check the engine and car body, but no way we can check the condition of the IMA battery.

Basically, I think Insight is not a bad choice to own if:

1) You drive a lot, the more mileage you have, the more saving you will get. Typical owner here in Klang Valley is getting around 550 to 600km for RM 62 of RON95 fuel. You do your math on how much km you travelling on a non hybrid in a month, then you can estimate how much you can safe and whether the saving is enough to compensate the slightly more expensive maintenance charge by Honda Malaysia every 5000km.
2) You plan to keep the car for a while. You will lost a lot if you sell off the car in a year or two.
3) You love technology and you love to be environment friendly, so you get to be different by owning a hybrid car.
4) The look of the car is actually very sporty, even if you compared to some non-hybrid at the similar price range, but anyway, the look thing can be different from person to person, so this point is up to you.

Have previously done my 40k service. One of the reason our insight is more expensive when compared to Jazz hybrid is Jazz only need change fuel filter at 80K while insight need change at both 40k n 80k!

But I delayed my change to 45k (cos no stock).

meaning if the window screen is force broken by robber, the alarm will sound!? Will try..

any big change for volumn in the car will trigger the alarm, it not work like the motion detector sensor.
i try when both front window open and nothing happen inside.
only when both windows is close, then u try move inside the carbin, the alarm and horn will trigger at the same time.

but nowadays the robber no need force break the window anymore, they can cut whole piece out without any noise at all. by right when they move their hand n head inside the carbin then the alarm will trigger.

my one was not happen last time when they broke my glass because i always lock my car with key n didnt turn on the alarm due to the alarm something wrong not able to detect by honda SC...kek sim...

This post has been edited by ongdennis: Mar 11 2013, 01:39 PM

I kena quoted for 85k sum insured...

let say market value is 75k and my insurance quote for 85k,

if total loss, how much i can get back? 75k or 85k?

Thanks

Good info. Thanks.

+1

depends on ur policy. if the Honda Ownership Programme policy, will be refunded 100% of price insured