erm,

let's look at what I posted..........



i'm saying the praises so far are for phones above RM 2k. get it?

nevertheless, it's good to know good camera exist on such phone. I got the Samsung Galaxy Duos at RM 600+ or something last year, camera sucks. Even the Acer Liquid C1 at RM 999 camera photo doesn't look that nice.

Chicago Sun-Times trains reporters to shoot with iPhones after laying off all its photographers

This post has been edited by mumeichan: Jun 9 2013, 01:03 AM

But low light not gonna be easy

While I think it's silly for a news agency to lay off it's photography team, I think people wayyyy overestimate their need for low light photography.

Just recently my colleague send me a job by taking photos of his draft using smartphone and whatapp to me. Then, he calls me to explain the draft.

I ask him why don't scan it with scanner and dropbox it to me? He mentioned about how tech savvy it is and how clear his smartphone take the picture.

You can imagine how piss off I am and how am I going to see clearly what hell thing that he takes on my small phone screen. I should do my design and snap using my smartphone and tell him to send this to his printer and print to customer next time.

This post has been edited by heinlein: Jun 9 2013, 02:21 AM

ehh ok mah.

it just depends on how good is the phone and how good is the lighting condition.

if all conditions are met, phone camera to replace scanner is alright.

He just self-syiok'ing. He expects me to see the picture and talk to him at the same time. Just a simply snap photo but makes my work more tedious.

Actually you can see the photo and talk at the same time via speaker phone. And i believe most smartphone has big screen

but if not say like iphone with 3.5-4" small screen you can

1. dropbox it quickly to your own account from the cameraroll (all whatsapp photo attachment will go there)

or

2. upload it to your flickr using flickr app

or

3. airplay it on huge TV

Now thats tech savvy and there are a lot of other ways instead of expecting the other party to be as techie.

My point is while smartphone can take decent picture, it shouldnt replace the actual tool that disrupt the workflow.

For example, I wouldn't snap my design preview with phone camera and send it to clients and printers.

No file organization there, better stick to actual workflow. Scan, create folder and put all the relevant files in dropbox. That is the actual workflow. The pic he takes is only 816 x 459 pixels when i received it and view on my 3.7" screen. So much for a tech savvy wannabe...My eyes really roled...

We're not talking about scanners here are we?

How about the samsung galaxy camera?

Talking about overrated phone camera that people think can replace everything

I always believe that the tool doesn't matter as much as the hand holding it. That said, for Auto settings, phone camera will probably be an adequate replacement for traditional P&S in a year time or so - at least for digital photos.

To compare phone camera with SLR is nonsense. One is a bazooka and the other is a pew pew shooter that can order pizza for you. A pew pew shooter can probably shoot rockets in a few years time as well, but not just yet. And by that time, who knows what the bazooka shoots.

@Low-light, I'm wagering that 2013 will be the year of low-light for phone photography.

Nice pic. Details not really there but it's bright + low noise, surprised with lumia 720. Btw, u reduced noise using photoshop?

I don't think it's nonsense. Let me give you this anology. A new Ferrari is obviously a much better car than a Kancil. However, if I'm just driving around town it wouldn't make any difference.

The thing is now, a smartphone camera isn't a Kancil anymore. It's like a Corolla already. Obviously the Ferrari is still better in some limited situations and in the hands of an experienced driver.

Hence the point I'm wondering here isn't that DSLRs are better than smartphone camera. But, whether smartphone can replace what SLRs and DSLRs have been doing so far in the hands of amatuers. Obviously if you're paid 10k for a photoshoot you're not gonna use your iPhone and limit what your client can get from you. But I think if I just had my iPhone on a trip to say Bali, I'm not even sure if the pictures I took would be much worse compared to having my DSLR with me.

There are many reason to leave the DSLR at home such as weight, size and risk.
However quality is never one of the reasons.

Why not you show us one photo you've taken with a camera phone(your very best) and let me show you a much better photo of a similar scene taken with a DSLR.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 9 2013, 10:32 PM

I disagree with the 'comparison' thingy that you mentioned. Your gear doesn't make you a pro, your skill does. It's like coming back to the same old 'n00b-with-high-end-DSLR-takes- sh!t-photos' topic. What's matter is the sight of photography, not the gears.

In the case of camera phones replacing DSLR? No. DSLR is definitely better than camera phones? Not really, depending on what you want to achieve.

I really think you're missing my point.

Pro or noob, one can definitely take better photos with a dslr than phones.

Doesn't matter if you're a kid that just started photography or Chase Jarvis. If you want better photos, you won't go with phones.

Unless of course convenience and weight is of a higher priority.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 10 2013, 10:00 AM