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My problem like TS is that even if I have DSLR, I am quite lazy to carry it around. Most of the time I end up using my camera. I have full confidence in SE cybershot range. Here are example photos I took with SE C510 (before I got a SGS2)



Compared to the SGS2, I say the SE cybershot better because it has a dedicated camera button- more stability. In fact, I was thinking of upgrading to a newer dSLR, but then the only features from dSLR which matter to me are:
low light performance-look at the picture.
speed
Optical zoom
IS-though some phones already have IS.

Also-if someone can tell me where to find smartphone camera app which can control shutter speed/aperture please let me know. I think can cure the low light performance if longer exposure.
I say in terms of performance, the C510 3.2 mp > SGS2. You don't need a lot of MP, only a steady hand.

Wow, thank you all sifus for your great input. The last post by mumeichan is very convincing. However, I wish to see more photos taken by smartphones in low light condition - maybe this is one are that smartphones has to chase.

I have an idea so far:

Forget about P&S --> a good smartphone can replace it.

Then get a Mirco 3/4 like Lumix GF2 (used, cheaper) for more challenging situation.

Any thought?

best smartphone Picture Quality

1. Nokia 808
2. Galaxy note (any)
3. Iphone 5
4. Galaxy s3
5. Iphone 4/s

actually if follow dx0mobile.
1. nokia 808
2 samsung s4
3. iphone 5
4. note 2
5. samsung s3

htc one not yet benchmark, so waiting.

Steady pic.
Yup. I went camping with the C510 and S2. You need a very steady hand for the S2, plus no shutter button makes it kind of a chore. BTW...this thread so old

wow, looking at the low light outputs from these two phones, still wows... 

"But then again, skills matter also." --> skills? what skills needed on phone cams? there's not much we can control right?

hehe. you guys who are praising smartphones should also be more detailed.

smartphone can range from as low as RM 599 to insane prices like Samsung Galaxy S4 which is about RM 2499 or so.

And the praises so far for good smartphone photos - they're all limited to those high-end smartphones that cost above RM 2k.
i disagree. going around Facebook, forums and various other places.

many people use DSLR and snap it same or worse than a phone camera.

there was a website that had such test before.

of course if you are comparing same scene, same lighting taken by same person then comparison is very straight forward.

I always believe that the tool doesn't matter as much as the hand holding it. That said, for Auto settings, phone camera will probably be an adequate replacement for traditional P&S in a year time or so - at least for digital photos.

To compare phone camera with SLR is nonsense. One is a bazooka and the other is a pew pew shooter that can order pizza for you. A pew pew shooter can probably shoot rockets in a few years time as well, but not just yet. And by that time, who knows what the bazooka shoots.

@Low-light, I'm wagering that 2013 will be the year of low-light for phone photography.

I believe he did understood that.
He mentioned that in last few pages and he concluded to purchase a P&S first.

Perhaps it is due to budget issue. I think a good camera phone has a minimum price tag of MYR 1,5xx. Nokia 808 could be cheaper. I am not really sure on this though, I'm just speculate and maybe wrong.

Saw that and thanks.
I tried not to expect much. Don't want to get disappointed.
I share your similar concern too.
However, I think that may quite a distant a way.

As someone mentioned earlier in this topic or anywhere else in the web 'The Best Camera is the camera that always with you'.
To be honest, that statement met my heart and mind. If I bought a Camera, it would be seated in my cupboard till some foreseeable occasion.
Just give our expectation in check when purchase a gadget.

many people are like that, spend few thousands on camera but the camera end up in cabinet.

you know how lousy is the Symbian right?

If I were you, I'd with something like the Samsung Galaxy S3 / S4 or the iPhone.

They have superb camera and superb OS. just a matter of which OS is your preference, no matter how the overall value still better than any nonsense 808............ unless you're really buying 808 purpose for camera purpose. 

Thinking of getting a better camera by this yr cuz I'm not happy with my lumia 800 low light performance. Thinking of Lumix lx5 cuz I wanna learn more camera controls.

With phone cameras improving fast, I'm scared that in the coming years even a mid range phone would be better than an lx5. If this happens, I may not wanna use the lx5 anymore since my phone will be better?

So is it still wise to get a dedicated compact cam now? Ppl think they will go extinct soon.

Really? Also heard a lots of people said the camera for this S.E Experia Ray is just too awesome!

It is an android phone, i am looking for FB user friendly, instagram, and good photos quality, would it be better than buying S4? Hmm...