Smart phones, at least the better ones can match low end point and shoot.
However they still fall pretty short from achieving S100 or LX5 standard which have significantly better optics and sensor.
An iphone 5 camera isn't as good as the S100 especially in dark conditions. Having said so, in proper lighting the difference in images isn't very prominent.
The camera on the iphone 5 is one of the best smartphone camera currently bar the 808. So if that can't match the S100, the rest wouldn't do much better at best.

Note that while the 808 may be able to match the S100 in some aspects, IMO as a phone it's more of a brick when compared to phones like the iphone5 or S3.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Nov 20 2012, 06:32 PM

1. Megapixels - Phonecam already has 12MP cam since 2009, while that time most DSLRs were just 6MP

5D2 was released in 2008 with 21 megapixels. Most DSLR at that time has a range 12-15 megapixels. Learn to count.

2. 1080p - Full HD phone cam are so common, 5D Mark II which priced almost like 3 new born babies in china black market was the 1st DSLR to have this feature.

5D2 was released in 2008. Name me one full HD phone cam released in 2008.

3. Display - when phone cam evolved up to retina display, most camera still stuck with low res with difficulty to see in sunlight.

Better display =/= better photos. Retina macbook pro webcam is worse than a RM 500 camera.

4. Touch screen - not just phonecam already has touch to focus, today most cameras don’t even have touchscreen,

Phone cam touch to focus takes about 10x longer than DSLR.

5. Video light LED is also common feature in cam phone, it almost non existence in real camera.

You mean torch light ? That's cute.... but why would I need one on a real camera ?

6. Image stabilization is not a buying factor in cam phone, but it is essential when buying a camera coz it is a rare feature.

So ?

7. GPS – Geolocation data on the Exif information – Phone cam people don’t even talk about this already coz it’s native.

How many check out the geolocation data on FB, flickr or printed photos ? Oh... no one either cares or they don't exist.

8. Connectivity – Wireless connectivity like wifi and 3G is not even a handful number that we can call significant in real cam world.

Not planning to whatsapp on my camera. I've a phone for that.
If I really need it, there's eye-fi, wifi attachments or some even have it built in.

9. Battery – while phone cam can just charge it on any usb ports, cameraman need to bring car battery around connected to some adapter and fake battery coupler.

That's cause camera can last more than a day... unlike phones.

10. Size – most photographers are still have the thinking that bigger is better when the evolution of technology proves otherwise. Until today most of them still think that it’s important to have mirror to reflect the image to another sensor to display on another smaller LCD display they call a viewfinder and this what DSLR is all about.

What ? Mirror to reflect image to another sensor ? LCD display called a viewfinder ? Do you even know how a DSLR works ? Stop spouting nonsense


Edit: Oh, to make sure you see the reply
chokia

This post has been edited by LegendLee: May 30 2013, 07:04 PM

Canon products are more of a consumer end than industrial end.
Nikon does not produce photocopy machine. They do produce X-rays but the market isn't exactly large.

All these companies may have diverge into different fields, but camera market is still contributing a large part of their revenues

No.
As of now, it cannot.
Simple physics.
Camera has more space to house larger sensors and better optics since it does not need to bother with excess "phone" features.
Until a phone can accomodate a large sensor and a large aperture zoom lens, the difference is clear.

I'm talking about a smartphone that has it's other smartphone features polished as well.

Of course things may change in the future with invention of sensors or lens technology.
Eg : Lytro, Foveon, Cheap EMCCD, liquid lens technology.
But until a revolutionary technology is widely implemented, there's no way phones will beat regular camera.

For night shots or dimly lit indoor shots ?
Nope, the images produced is still horrible.

I'm quite sure my 5 year old DSLR can still perform better in low light compared to any smartphones.

A camera phone can take stunning images, as with a 2 megapixel 10 year old camera.
Doesn't mean that the 10 year old camera is an amazing camera by today's standard.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 2 2013, 02:07 AM

Exactly my point.
Just because it can take a good photograph doesn't mean the camera has amazing IQ.
Apply that to smartphones camera.

There are many reason to leave the DSLR at home such as weight, size and risk.
However quality is never one of the reasons.

Why not you show us one photo you've taken with a camera phone(your very best) and let me show you a much better photo of a similar scene taken with a DSLR.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 9 2013, 10:32 PM

Pro or noob, one can definitely take better photos with a dslr than phones.

Doesn't matter if you're a kid that just started photography or Chase Jarvis. If you want better photos, you won't go with phones.

Unless of course convenience and weight is of a higher priority.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 10 2013, 10:00 AM

You say phone and dslr quality about the same
I disagree.
There is still a difference, even if the one holding it is an amateur.

Yeap the lumia takes amazing photos at night
Especially in their ads/promotional images, better than most entry level DSLR
http://petapixel.com/2012/09/07/yup-nokia-...pureview-promo/

The video seems great.
Except they didn't take it with the samsung camera.
Probably a Red One camera.

It's a product demo of a camera. Having video footage will help it tremendously if it's good.
Like the lumia 920 showing video footage of its video quality.

Camera phones will one day have large sensors which uses 1/100th of current power and 1000x more sensitive with really good optical quality lens, large aperture and large zoom range.
While being no bigger than an iphone.

How ?
Newer technology like the new nano-graphene sensor and liquid lens technology.
It's not here yet, but one day it will.

But until those days arrive, phones should stop pretending to be fullblown cameras.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 13 2013, 06:16 PM

Yes, and as such people should not compare and base their judgement on which camera is better.

When I choose my phone, it's more than just for its "camera functions"
It's the device you're going to be using the most. It's the device that you keep close all the time.
This includes size, weight, speed, apps, OS, battery life, audio quality, connectivity, additional accessories, design, hardiness, stability, lifespan, screen and camera etc etc

I'm not going to sacrifice the rest of the traits just for better photos. That's the job of a dedicated camera.

Of course this is just a personal preference. For those who think otherwise, go ahead. But you'll be pissing people off when you say your phone's as good as today's DSLR.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 13 2013, 09:04 PM

I believe what they meant is;
"Why would anyone bother selecting their smartphones solely based on their camera performance"

There are other things to look for in a smart phone. For example: Apps, OS support and Speed

That's not a smart phone.

In today's age of whatsapp, email, PDF, Internet and apps.
Camera is bumped back down on the priority list.

From reviews, seems like the QX100 is a pretty "ok" camera.

If it works...

The idea of a smartphone camera is something you will bring everywhere everytime and is ready to fire within 3 seconds.

The QX100 takes a while to setup and the connection is pretty unreliable.