dun ask lar like we own bike shop... of course smaller frames will result in a shorter head tube... and generally the ones not made as endurance bikes...

if you want to compare similar size between different model and brands.. you have to look at each of them individually as the geometry affects the height of the HT...

else, -17 degree stems is your best friend...

historically, if you look at sister schleck... you can see his bikes have rather tall head tubes... due to his physique...

CSC Days


Sexybank Days


Leopard Trek Days


he gets that pro look by using a very steep stem installed terbalik...and of course slamming that stem like a b!atch in heat...

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Added on December 5, 2012, 5:22 pmthat is my role in this thread isn't it...

it's a constant tug of war between sensibility and nonsensical..

why you think i am qualified to be your boss... it's all about the extra effort...learn it from doper, schumacher and ayrton senna...

hopefully i dun learn the one thing from the latter one... DIE YOUNG

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Added on December 5, 2012, 5:25 pmriding alone can scratch balls, dig nose, cincai meludah merata-rata, scream obscene words, let epic farts rip, stare at pretty girls assets, sms to arrange for post ride massage session, surf porn on phone while riding...

i think those benefits you can't find on group rides...

at the end of the ride... you can boast of the epic ride that you actually never did because no one was there to witness and contradict you... hahahaha

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 5 2012, 05:28 PM

he mau hansem tak mau nyawa...

apa kaitan ngan internal headset?

u and mr. jgx terbalik pulak...

but it's true... putting the bearing races into the frame will only allow the manufacturer to make a thinner head tube wall... and the bearings are also smaller to bear loads since they have to sit within the internal diameter of the head tube instead of outboard....

speaking of that... wouldn't BB30 sound like a bad idea as well.. hahaha

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Added on December 5, 2012, 6:03 pmassuming you are referring to oltre xr...



the italians are bungholes... no geometry info on their site...this is from competitive cyclist..

assuming it's in CM...

looks like the tarmac is shorter on heat tube for frame size below 55...

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Added on December 5, 2012, 6:14 pmohh... ada pulak.. blame wrong ppl...


being italians.. they are still idiots sticking this so deep in a PDF hidden in the far ends of the world...

me likes


WHORES CATEGORY

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Added on December 5, 2012, 6:42 pmwoah!!! supreme feats of japanese perverted engineering...



would you trust it with your bike...

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 5 2012, 06:42 PM

co-incidentally ck does not make bb30 bearings too...there must be some story behind it

i oso talking c0ck too.. just trying to jerk you around while i look for my facts....buy me some time mar... hahahah

the oltre looks b!tching... but i still prefer the tarmac if i were to buy one for my own.. the bianchi is just too stylo milo for me...

that being said, the oltre can still look sweet...just get some 17 degree stems...




having the pro look is all about.. no stack height, low head tube if possible, and a bad creaking back when you hit 50 years old...

it's a bug with the forum system LYN uses... you cannot post too many pictures or once you get a error... it wipes out your previous joint posts...

did you make a typo... i heard of riders consuming 9000 calories per day being standard lar... but 19000 is a bit crazy...

in fact he is not considered to be crazy thin... his teammate froome looks more on the ragged edge than he is.. in fact they are worried about him being over excessive on reducing his body weight in the couple of months during the grand tour season...

if he stops cycling.. he will become an obese tub of lard...

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 09:30 AM

he is almost there... but he is an exception where he can power through a TT and without falling off his bike 3 times in a single TT...

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Added on December 6, 2012, 12:35 pmnot exacly scarlet johansson...but...










anyone?



This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 12:35 PM

fuiyo... change tire just for event... need or not... fellowship ride only wat..

apa lar.. tire akan keras tau??? those are not hutchinson pro tubulars that you can keep in the cellar for 7 years...

if i get a lerun and make it a sub 6.8kg bike... enough challenge boh??

for me RM100 also no deal.. cos i hate expensive tires... unless it can handle being poked by a 6inch knife and still continue rolling...

who's your dealer... we want everyday low price...

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Added on December 6, 2012, 3:29 pmquite obvious rite? sl3, 1500 grammage mavics... DA-7900...

it might be hitting UCI weight limit already...

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 03:29 PM

any secret code you need to utter to him to get that price?

don't be a bad ass and tease us...

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Added on December 6, 2012, 3:38 pmlike this?



i don't think i can...

but i have a picture of this...


will it do?

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 03:38 PM

well.. i am only asking for vin_ann since i don't like expensive tires... it's too overrated...

i only use my vittoria corsa evo cx's

becareful not to open it in front of wife...BAD NEWS

the factor of syiok sendili after buying something cheaper than you can get always overcomes the extra you pay on petrol and time...

RM160?? take cucumber and cucuk him lar...

now you are trolling us...

smelly lar...

dude... it's just part of the c0cking 101 class... you make the closest guess..

it's a c0cker thing you know... not cyclist... cyclist all have no brains cos their brain is dead from lack of oxygen delivery...

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Added on December 6, 2012, 3:58 pmwat does watching porn have to do with remembering things... if watching porn makes you remember things.. there is only 3 outcomes to this

1) very evidently, the elderly never or watch very little porn..hence, bad memory or even worst Alzheimers
2) straight-A students must be watching porn all day all night because they can memorize all the shit facts about how a banana fell on hang tuah's head in pulau pinang
3) i will be opening a tuition center teaching kids how to score straight A's by watching porn.. and i will be rich and riding my Parlee Z5sl with carbon everything now and sponsoring my very own LYN cycling team all equipped cervelo R5CAs with SRAM Red and full ceramic speed bearings + lightweight wheels...

watching porn has nothing to do with memory... period...

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 04:02 PM

your bike is not a elle mcpherson lar... it won't lose weight every time you weigh it dude..

it loses weight when you throw money at it like you do a las vegas stripper...

different people value things differently... like sultan will drive a bently to pasar and buy buffalo testicles while you can't even bear to have your bike scratching your toyota camry...

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Added on December 6, 2012, 4:07 pmquite obviously now that i watch too much porn isn't it?

can't even remember what you wrote just scrolling down the page...



This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 04:07 PM

not that you don't value... it's just that some people has a merc at home and drives a kancil to pasar. because scared the buffalo testicles will dirty his merc.. and some people will drive the merc to pasar without a spot of bother...

watever u are happy with dude... i don't think the road is more abrasive than a trainer wheel...unless you always lock up your wheels from high speed...

you don't want our recommendations... trust me...

do wat is making you happy now and continue to be happy and loving your bike...

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Added on December 6, 2012, 4:23 pmthis fat furball is too lazy too mate.. where got interest to crawl all the way to turn on the DVD player...

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 04:23 PM

was jus kidding.. hard to get out of trolling mode once at top flight... it's the off season and we spend time trolling each other to pass time... give some time to readjust a bit and go back into sensible mode first...

it's not poor bike lover or rich bike lover thing... but we might end up corrupting you...haha...if you are not afraid...

wat are you looking for anyways??? i mean, in a bike of that range... your expectations? any requirements, minimum requirements, any expansion for budget, what you plan in future (upgrade, change better bike, own two or three more bikes)...

this are things that seems like nonsense.. but helps lay out your road map...

This post has been edited by butthead: Dec 6 2012, 04:33 PM

oi... i told him adi lor... he suddenly cucuk masuk when i am in gear lima... wat u expect me to do... cannot masuk gostan gear rite.. you got drive car or not one?

let me gather my thoughts first mar... as miao points out... i watch too much porn... so my thinking is super slow.. it's either full c0ck mode or full professor x mode...

err... that's an unexpected blunder...

polygon is a good budget brand... merida is possibly another one...

let me set your expectations first since i don't have much details on your wants and needs...

for RM1.5k - RM1.8k budget with a reputable brands... you will most likely get an aluminum bike (obviously) with some 8-speed equipment like shimano 2300 and sora mix probably..not to say bad, it is a usable bike...

an upgrade to better equipment means 10-speed 105 will set you back RM1.8k on top of your bike... if you jump to 9speed, it's going to be a complete waste of money...if you feel what i am trying to convey at this point...

done with the upgrade possibilities of the bike...now, onto what you ride....

would you say your routes there are flattish, or a lot of climbs, or rolling conditions? flat routes *might not make you find your budget bike inadequate... but if you are into lots of climbing and you start realizing you need to lighten your equipment or play with wider gear ranges.. here, you are quite stuffed as you will be looking at spending a heck lot to do it...

then comes aesthetics?? does look matter to you? budget bikes are usually made to look less appealing because they want to sell more expensive bikes... i have not much input on that because i don't give a flying crap about looks... but if looks is more important than functionality for you... good luck matey...