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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V34, Edisi tikus ~ 过街老鼠 人人喊打 ~

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post Nov 13 2012, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 13 2012, 03:53 AM)
I'm Sri Damansara, I just showered and finish catching up all the posts yawn.gif

Anyway, its a good TT that changed my point of view. Thanks to sg999 for showing me the significant of useful ground cable, voltage stabilizer and a blardy thick welding cable that stuck with the alternator shocking.gif Before I able to step on your gas pedal, I was still wondering it should be some placebo or virtually minimal effect, but I was wrong. The good combination of those VS, grounding bank and also the thick wire did significantly reduce throttle lag to virtually NONE. By hitting the gas pedal, I know there's still lag, but couldn't feel it. I still know its a DbW, but it seems instantaneous. The shift stick still spongy like a shit soaked butter finger, just like what a BLM should be. But the throttle response had been significantly improved. Definitely no doubt about it. This is by far the best BLM I've seen/drove before. I will give some thought to it and try my luck with quality amp cable by DIY a set of grounding bank hmm.gif

Along the way driving home, I've put some thought to what have inside sg999's car was the significant improvement of conduction. So I took a wild guess, could it be stable firing that reduce the need of powering up the ignition coil? If you all remember, I already figured the throttlebody itself is NOT lag. When you put your leg on the pedal, the throttle body DID open at the same time, what trouble me was the response of any other consequences after the throttle work, such as ignition timing, miscalculation of fuel injection rate. So, with stable electricity, ignition coil generate instant power(if you don't already know ignition coil need to transform the tiny 12V to 30,000V), so here goes the theory. If your car does not have good electricity conduction, it takes longer time to charge the 12V up to the ignition 30,000V. Without good grounding work, negative ion will not be able to send back to the battery source fast enough, as a result the bad chain reaction more lag and even more lagging everytime you wide open your throttlebody.

So I have a brief conclusion, its not the throttlebody, it could be the wrong calculation of ignition timing. It could be the wrong calculation of fuel injected rate. Watch video below, you'll get the idea our GaGa actually has the same throttle flap response just like any other DbW vehicle, the only thing I concern now is, what happen after WOT hmm.gif


Time to sleep:o
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Thx bro david, i really like my BLM now. It is just like driving another car.
(sometime will lan c abit say, who say blm pedal response is worst, who say blm pick up like turtle, who say blm
campro very sluggish ) brows.gif
just wan to share
those FLX with CVT gearbox facing choking/non-smoth during low speed, this combination can help too
(last time i shared here b4 but no ppl diao me) cry.gif
same thing apply to preve CVT and Exore CVT
but what principle hidden behind i wish to know also. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on November 13, 2012, 3:18 amjust some suggestion here
those who want improve their car response
i would suggusest u guy go for gc rm120 first
the effect i believe is much better compare with knn dorp in(rm250) +redline (rm150) + irridium plug (rm180)
dun waste money on those drop in n plug.
believe or not depend on u.
just my 2 cent
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This post has been edited by sg999: Nov 13 2012, 03:18 AM
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post Nov 13 2012, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 13 2012, 03:11 AM)
Thx bro david, i really like my BLM now. It is just like driving another car.
(sometime will lan c abit say, who say blm pedal response is worst, who say blm pick up like turtle, who say blm
campro very sluggish ) brows.gif
just wan to share
those FLX with CVT gearbox facing choking/non-smoth during low speed, this combination can help too
(last time i shared here b4 but no ppl diao me) cry.gif
same thing apply to preve CVT and Exore CVT
but what principle hidden behind i wish to know also. icon_rolleyes.gif
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There's no doubt about the sluggish throttle response of a standard BLM without all the mod you have. You ask me, I tell you the truth. I seriously does not think those "HK5" cable works as well as yours, infact I dont feel shit when its on my BLM. However, they improved ICE on my Sabby once I transferred over. You heard my standard speaker, they performed like a charm, more like a 10inch sub is powered up. rolleyes.gif

Again, its not like nobody wanna tiao you last time, its we don't know how to deal with it. How do you expect I react on a welding cable? Infact I remember some member asked you before where to do that drool.gif So in the end, I still remember there's a person with the welding cable, again we didn't know it helped so much shakehead.gif My next project is going to the welding supplier and look for AA conductor, if budget allowed most probably I'm going pure SILVER for the alternator.

Again, thanks for giving me an eye opener notworthy.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 13 2012, 04:23 AM)
There's no doubt about the sluggish throttle response of a standard BLM without all the mod you have. You ask me, I tell you the truth. I seriously does not think those "HK5" cable works as well as yours, infact I dont feel shit when its on my BLM. However, they improved ICE on my Sabby once I transferred over. You heard my standard speaker, they performed like a charm, more like a 10inch sub is powered up. rolleyes.gif

Again, its not like nobody wanna tiao you last time, its we don't know how to deal with it. How do you expect I react on a welding cable? Infact I remember some member asked you before where to do that drool.gif So in the end, I still remember there's a person with the welding cable, again we didn't know it helped so much shakehead.gif My next project is going to the welding supplier and look for AA conductor, if budget allowed most probably I'm going pure SILVER for the alternator.

Again, thanks for giving me an eye opener notworthy.gif
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really amazing audio system drool.gif
sorry bro, i missed that post,haha.
for the positive cable, hw many A u plan to install?
me using 300A +ve . try to get bigger A, since the bigger A, the resistance smaller.
walao, silver!!!bloody expensive sweat.gif sweat.gif

This post has been edited by sg999: Nov 13 2012, 03:36 AM
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post Nov 13 2012, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 13 2012, 03:28 AM)
really amazing audio system drool.gif
sorry bro, i missed that post,haha.
for the positive cable, hw many A u plan to install?
me using 300A +ve . try go get bigger A, since the bigger A, the resistance smaller.
walao, silver!!!bloody expensive  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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300A for +ve... then -ve leh ? i mau buat also ~ tongue.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 05:59 AM

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Guys, need your input.

Today as I was approaching a high speed corner on ELITE highway, I turned my steering but the car kept going straight.

I swiftly slammed my foot on the brakes as I felt I was losing control of the car. The car eventually turned but I nearly ceased to exist. SCARY SHIT.

Is this a steering rack problem? I've knocked the rack numerous times over the course of 3 years. Just serviced the car and still under warranty.



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post Nov 13 2012, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Nov 13 2012, 05:59 AM)
Guys, need your input.

Today as I was approaching a high speed corner on ELITE highway, I turned my steering but the car kept going straight.

I swiftly slammed my foot on the brakes as I felt I was losing control of the car. The car eventually turned but I nearly ceased to exist. SCARY SHIT.

Is this a steering rack problem? I've knocked the rack numerous times over the course of 3 years. Just serviced the car and still under warranty.
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Did you actually lose front tyre traction?
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post Nov 13 2012, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Nov 13 2012, 03:05 AM)
bulk bulk ~ tongue.gif
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Firestorm no use liao....haha....
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post Nov 13 2012, 09:36 AM

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Great turn out last nite, how many was it? 15-16 attendees? Gaga, Persoga and 1 Inspilalala. When I still have my Gaga everytime also 4-5 members....The very day I sold my Gaga, we get one of the best turn out for a TT, Tibai betol sleep.gif

The buyer of my MightyWhitey will be driving straight to Penang today and later to Perlis, maybe LHWJ and zeone can keep and eye out for it brows.gif

Anyway, last night on my way back got a SSH Biba hogging the right lane all the way, see me coming from behind, accelerate summore but still slow. At the uphill slope before Tesco Cheras finally have opportunity to overtake, so I move to the middle land and speed up, easily overtaking it as we go up the slope. But the Biba STILL DUN WANNA GIB UP, reach the crest of the uphill I can see it was trying to overtake me. But I was nearing my exit so I moved to the left lane and let the SSH pass.

I imagine the driver must be pumping his fist in his car, very happy his 660 Biba outran a Fiesta huh.gif

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post Nov 13 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 09:36 AM)

The buyer of my MightyWhitey will be driving straight to Penang today and later to Perlis, maybe LHWJ and zeone can keep and eye out for it  brows.gif

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Yu, Bro...will keep both eyes peeled 4it... tongue.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 10:34 AM

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Hi, here to report myself. I'm sg999 friend for yesterday night TT Saga FL owner. Nice to meet you guys.
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post Nov 13 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(eltonloo84 @ Nov 13 2012, 10:34 AM)
Hi, here to report myself. I'm sg999 friend for yesterday night TT Saga FL owner. Nice to meet you guys.
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Nice ride wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Nov 13 2012, 09:30 AM)
Firestorm no use liao....haha....
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R u a SSH? Those both thing are different stuff. If u dunno anything kindly keep ur mouth shut. U didnt join TT and please dont simply give comment. Prices also in much more different. TQ


Added on November 13, 2012, 10:39 am
QUOTE(eltonloo84 @ Nov 13 2012, 10:34 AM)
Hi, here to report myself. I'm sg999 friend for yesterday night TT Saga FL owner. Nice to meet you guys.
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Nice to meet u, btw ur ride nice nice. Can blind satellite already. Lol

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post Nov 13 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(eltonloo84 @ Nov 13 2012, 10:34 AM)
Hi, here to report myself. I'm sg999 friend for yesterday night TT Saga FL owner. Nice to meet you guys.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 10:36 AM)
Nice ride  wub.gif  wub.gif
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U back too early la, after u ciao unker david test yhe obd reader.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 13 2012, 10:37 AM)

Added on November 13, 2012, 10:39 am

Nice to meet u, btw ur ride nice nice. Can blind satellite already. Lol
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 13 2012, 10:40 AM)
U back too early la, after u ciao unker david test yhe obd reader.
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I forgot jor....so can work?
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Hi Guys,

Want to ask sumting.

Based on the spareparts price list guide that being posted at first page (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17712648/Saga%20Pricelist/Saga%20BLM%201.3%20M-line%20%28M%29.pdf), which one actually is the IAFM thingy?

Because I try to search it and can't found it.

My 2010 Saga BLM is having the famous "Tak tak tak" sound so I have ask the SC. ( I didn't bring the car as it at my hometown right now)

They said maybe due to 2 things, 1 is IAFM and another thing is the some valve things (dunno the correct terms).

When ask the quote about the price, they said it rm1++ for the valve, and rm5++ for IAFM.

Is it the correct price or being slaughter here?

Need advice from you guys.

Thanks,
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 13 2012, 10:41 AM)
blink.gif Talking bout yourself?  tongue.gif
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Mine kenot! tongue.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 10:42 AM)
I forgot jor....so can work?
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Ur mughtywhite can sumore got 2 ecu
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Thanks !! I wish can blind the AES haha


Added on November 13, 2012, 10:54 am
QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 10:36 AM)
Nice ride  wub.gif  wub.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 13 2012, 10:37 AM)


Added on November 13, 2012, 10:39 am

Nice to meet u, btw ur ride nice nice. Can blind satellite already. Lol
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 13 2012, 10:40 AM)
wave.gif Hi, Loo  whistling.gif
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Thanks !! I wish could be blind the AES haha

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