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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V34, Edisi tikus ~ 过街老鼠 人人喊打 ~

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nickzkuso
post Nov 13 2012, 11:03 AM

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Next time shud arrange all of our cars straight line and take pic unsure.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 13 2012, 10:48 AM)
Mine kenot! tongue.gif
Ur mughtywhite can sumore got 2 ecu
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2 ECU shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Nov 13 2012, 11:03 AM)
Next time shud arrange all of our cars straight line and take pic unsure.gif
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Too dark, no camera and later polis come and kacau in a Mybi. ph34r.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 11:04 AM)
2 ECU  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Yah 2 ecu, further details nker david can xplain better..

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:05 AM)
Too dark, no camera  and later polis come and kacau in a Mybi. ph34r.gif
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Haha the mybi. Lol
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 13 2012, 11:07 AM)
Yah 2 ecu, further details nker david can xplain better..
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Sure the other one is not the TCU? unsure.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:12 AM

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Dont thnk so ciz both aso read abt the same stuff but sensor got different
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 13 2012, 11:12 AM)
Dont thnk so ciz both aso read abt the same stuff but sensor got different
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Then got 2 OBD2 port ah? Or both connect via the same port?
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Nov 13 2012, 05:59 AM)
Guys, need your input.

Today as I was approaching a high speed corner on ELITE highway, I turned my steering but the car kept going straight.

I swiftly slammed my foot on the brakes as I felt I was losing control of the car. The car eventually turned but I nearly ceased to exist. SCARY SHIT.

Is this a steering rack problem? I've knocked the rack numerous times over the course of 3 years. Just serviced the car and still under warranty.
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If you can still negotiate corner at slow speed, meaning it's not steering rack problem. It looks more like you lose your tyre traction. Tell me they're Silverstone M3/M5 unsure.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 09:36 AM)
Great turn out last nite, how many was it? 15-16 attendees? Gaga, Persoga and 1 Inspilalala. When I still have my Gaga everytime also 4-5 members....The very day I sold my Gaga, we get one of the best turn out for a TT, Tibai betol sleep.gif

The buyer of my MightyWhitey will be driving straight to Penang today and later to Perlis, maybe LHWJ and zeone can keep and eye out for it  brows.gif

Anyway, last night on my way back got a SSH Biba hogging the right lane all the way, see me coming from behind, accelerate summore but still slow. At the uphill slope before Tesco Cheras finally have opportunity to overtake, so I move to the middle land and speed up, easily overtaking it as we go up the slope. But the Biba STILL DUN WANNA GIB UP, reach the crest of the uphill I can see it was trying to overtake me. But I was nearing my exit so I moved to the left lane and let the SSH pass.

I imagine the driver must be pumping his fist in his car, very happy his 660 Biba outran a Fiesta huh.gif
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Thank you for your participation so far, sad to see the FLX SE go, but its a good thing to have PoPi. In the end, it's an UPGRADE. Please continue join us who "stuck" with local production brand that doesn't require a QC. doh.gif

My brother's BiBa 850 did outrun a PoPo before (you'll have to understand under certain traffic condition, only BiBa and Gancil can drive through laugh.gif)

QUOTE(eltonloo84 @ Nov 13 2012, 10:34 AM)
Hi, here to report myself. I'm sg999 friend for yesterday night TT Saga FL owner. Nice to meet you guys.
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Welcome to the neighborhood thumbup.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 13 2012, 10:37 AM)
R u a SSH? Those both thing are different stuff. If u dunno anything kindly keep ur mouth shut. U didnt join TT and please dont simply give comment. Prices also in much more different. TQ
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Calm down clam down. We need a peaceful environment to talk it out wink.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:37 AM

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Thank you for your participation so far, sad to see the FLX SE go, but its a good thing to have PoPi. In the end, it's an UPGRADE. Please continue join us who "stuck" with local production brand that doesn't require a QC. doh.gif

My brother's BiBa 850 did outrun a PoPo before (you'll have to understand under certain traffic condition, only BiBa and Gancil can drive through laugh.gif)
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It's an upgrade in PRICE, that's for sure doh.gif

Popi got different feeling than Gaga, drive Gaga feel more manly and more engaged to the car. Yea la Popi better in some aspects, but I still feel detached from the car, the car will do what you want (most of the time), but it won't give you any feedback. I miss the Gaga's stupiak engine roar when I floor the pedal, very satisfying wub.gif

I dunno you lar, since you drive a BMW before, but I think it's good you got the Gaga instead of the dugong. I drive dugong really no feeling wan....(except the bodyroll doh.gif ). I feel the Gaga / Sabby is more suitable for a numbnut driver like you

My conclusion: The Gaga is a vulgar motherfacker that likes to give you a piece of it's mind, then you tew 9 him back and it's fun; the Popi is a 斯文败类, acts all gentlemenly with you but would gladly give the middle finger to other cars; Dugong....well dugong is just indifferent and doesn't give a flying fark.

For YAB, if you ever want to upgrade to a small car with better refinement, I'd recommend the Taylor Suzie Swift. It's not terribly quick, but handles like a go-kart. Unfortunately the new ones doesn't come with manual.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 13 2012, 11:39 AM
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(budak nakal @ Nov 13 2012, 10:42 AM)
Hi Guys,

Want to ask sumting.

Based on the spareparts price list guide that being posted at first page (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17712648/Saga%20Pricelist/Saga%20BLM%201.3%20M-line%20%28M%29.pdf), which one actually is the IAFM thingy?

Because I try to search it and can't found it.

My 2010 Saga BLM is having the famous "Tak tak tak" sound so I have ask the SC. ( I didn't bring the car as it at my hometown right now)

They said maybe due to 2 things, 1 is IAFM and another thing is the some valve things (dunno the correct terms).

When ask the quote about the price, they said it rm1++ for the valve, and rm5++ for IAFM.

Is it the correct price or being slaughter here?

Need advice from you guys.

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1) Canister purge valve(Pictar too big, click spoiler to see)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

It's well above 100 + labor charge.

2) Intake Air Fuel Module - IAFM
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I heard the module alone cost 400, with labor got up to 500 is not a surprise

They're not slaughtering you. However, most IAFM problem was the purge valve instead of the module itself.

QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 11:09 AM)
Sure the other one is not the TCU?  unsure.gif
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It seems like both system are built in the same ECU. If you know dumb terminal, I guess that pretty much the same.
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Its virtually 1 side of the computer uses to do all the engine management, the other side of the computer was split became transmission controller. My reader couldn't read both side of the brain at the same time. When I plug in and detect ECU, it shows dual ECU ID inside. I can only select 1 at anyone time. The 1st ECU ID selected show most of the basic indicator such as radiator core temperature, fan temperature, fuel/hour consumption, fuel/km consumption, idling speed, velocity and stuff. However, when I reboot the system and selected 2nd ECU ID, it detects up to 133 sensors inside the whole 2nd brain is controlling. I'm guessing my reader was overwhelmed by the amount of data feeding in. The thing felt like hang gei like that. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:38 AM)
It seems like both system are built in the same ECU. If you know dumb terminal, I guess that pretty much the same.
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Its virtually 1 side of the computer uses to do all the engine management, the other side of the computer was split became transmission controller. My reader couldn't read both side of the brain at the same time. When I plug in and detect ECU, it shows dual ECU ID inside. I can only select 1 at anyone time. The 1st ECU ID selected show most of the basic indicator such as radiator core temperature, fan temperature, fuel/hour consumption, fuel/km consumption, idling speed, velocity and stuff. However, when I reboot the system and selected 2nd ECU ID, it detects up to 133 sensors inside the whole 2nd brain is controlling. I'm guessing my reader was overwhelmed by the amount of data feeding in. The thing felt like hang gei like that. unsure.gif
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Interesting....My OBD2 scanner only ever read from the first ECU you mentioned above. hmm.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 11:47 AM)
Interesting....My OBD2 scanner only ever read from the first ECU you mentioned above. hmm.gif
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Yours is a OBD data puller, mine is a scanner laugh.gif Mine can pull data, set data, read fault code, reset fault code, program overdrive for dugong, maintenance reminder laugh.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:50 AM)
Yours is a OBD data puller, mine is a scanner laugh.gif Mine can pull data, set data, read fault code, reset fault code, program overdrive for dugong, maintenance reminder laugh.gif
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Wah can set data summore....Mine can read and reset fault code also....but nothing else.


Added on November 13, 2012, 11:52 am
QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:50 AM)
Yours is a OBD data puller, mine is a scanner laugh.gif Mine can pull data, set data, read fault code, reset fault code, program overdrive for dugong, maintenance reminder laugh.gif
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Eh can post a pic ah?

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post Nov 13 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:38 AM)
1) Canister purge valve(Pictar too big, click spoiler to see)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

It's well above 100 + labor charge.

2) Intake Air Fuel Module - IAFM
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I heard the module alone cost 400, with labor got up to 500 is not a surprise

They're not slaughtering you. However, most IAFM problem was the purge valve instead of the module itself.


Thanks for the advice.

Because before this I remember I read in Saga BLM thread VXX (forgot already) that some one encounter this issue and only being charge RM250 for replace the IAFM module so thats why I'm ask here to confirm it back.

Seems like need to book CoE to have it be check next week...... moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif



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post Nov 13 2012, 12:08 PM

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133 sensors.

dont play play
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 11:51 AM)
Wah can set data summore....Mine can read and reset fault code also....but nothing else.


Added on November 13, 2012, 11:52 am

Eh can post a pic ah?
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Later will post in [WTS] since kenot be use yawn.gif

QUOTE(budak nakal @ Nov 13 2012, 11:57 AM)
Thanks for the advice.

Because before this I remember I read in Saga BLM thread VXX (forgot already) that some one encounter this issue and only being charge RM250 for replace the IAFM module so thats why I'm ask here to confirm it back.

Seems like need to book CoE to have it be check next week...... moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif
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No more warranty meh? IAFM supposed to be included in the 3 years limited warranty rite hmm.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 13 2012, 12:08 PM)
Proton Saga FLX
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Kong ying man lah. Tew! dry.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 13 2012, 12:09 PM)
133 sensors.

dont play play
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Forgot to poke you tim yesterday blush.gif May be only FLX SE sohightek? blink.gif I wish to confirm it with a 1.3 CBT and another FLX 5MT hmm.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 13 2012, 12:08 PM)
Proton Saga FLX
挥别低声下气向爸爸借车的日子,
拥有自己的汽车,现在比以前更容易。
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咩lan哦?? blink.gif

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