But i want to open a can of worms can ah?

So say MoC works in group? does it stack? Say...2 monks both use MoC? If one recites mantra ...48% for 3 sec, but the other monk has the mantra activated..would the damage buff stack...ie 24+48% or just plain 48% (i.e max cap)

I mean logically it shouldnt..otherwise, get 2 monks reciting mantra at the same time..48%+48%.....96%..habis la....use thorn also can kill liao?

The other thing which I wish someone could clarify....48%...how the heck is that derived? 48% additional DPS or mobs have their defences lowered by 48%...how about shielding mobs? I am pretty sure..shielding mobs dont have their defences lowered by 48%...cause using moC also take long to kill shileded mobs in my experiance

Lol..questions and more questions..

48% damage dealt to the mobs, not 48% dps. If says we hit and dealt 100k damage, it will received 148k. And it does not stack so you won't be getting 96%

Was never over to begin with..

Cow, tonight we test 2 MoC see if it stack.

Bring it on!

weh i check d3up calc....when push that MOC button for skills..my DPS rises...

so the question remains...it was on our DPS or dmg to the mob??

if it really stacked, 4 MoC monk = 5 effective monk.

I'm pretty sure that you're not the first one to think of stacking mantras and I'm also quite certain blizzard are the same.
I mean, who's stopping everyone from rolling monks and stack 4x over awe with 100-200k base/buffed damage and 1 shotting every content in the game? That didn't happen probably for a good reason: no, mantras don't stack

They just take 48% additional damage,.probably after a net calculation. By shielding (elites/champion) monster take 0 damage , I'm going to assume you meantthose shaman fat goats in act 3 where they cast a damage reduction armor buff to their allies (can't themselves unless multiple fat f***ers iinm).

From there we could assume over awe just works as the final damage interment after the damage reduction took place

Does it matter? check the real damage dealt to the mob. Imagine that you can deal 150k max damage with no MoC, see if it can do 222k. Test it on normal attack.

I always think believe that the dps figure bliz shown ingame is BS.

This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Oct 30 2012, 04:35 PM

The figures that appears on the screen is damage done to mobs AFTER factoring in the mobs defense, resistance and etc. So, a 48 percent debuff means u're doing additional 48 percent damage. This does not mean your DPS has been increased by 48 percent unless your DPS is the damage you do to the mob which in this case is not possible.

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Added on October 30, 2012, 4:41 pmIf MoC stack, then war cry would stack also. Does your other mantra stack? I don't think so right. If it does, monk would be imba. I'll roll one ASAP.

This post has been edited by 2890: Oct 30 2012, 04:41 PM

agree. And it does not meant that the mob are 48% weaker.

@ yuhhaur,

I don't get the "and it does not mean that the mobs are 48 percent weaker". Care to explain?

^ i think what he mean:

mobs only take extra 48% dmg but the output done by mobs still 100%...

so not weaker...

this thread is becoming similar to monk discussion thread.
just close this if possible to avoid any childish pursues.
TS already got his answers.

what I meant if his armor is 1000 it will not become 520. just treat it as a modification to the final value of damage done before submitting the result to output:
Example:
output = [whatever calculation on damage - armor reduction] *48%
armor still the same.

i agreed...

thread close...