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post Aug 10 2018, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 10 2018, 12:01 AM)
The area still looks like a ghost town passing by few weeks ago.

The park is seriously nothing like what was illustrated from the artist impression. No public transport within walking distance.. no retail within walking distance as well.. lots of factories nearby..

Not sure about future residence but I would hate to be a residence for the completed units right now.
If they were to do the project like Pavilion, whereby the mall, retail and serviced apartments all being built at the same time. I bet paisley, pandora, paloma would be fully booked within a short time. I guess Tropicana isn't confident with that area hence they are going phase by phase to see if they should move on to build the grand project, which is the mall.

I foresee IF the commercial buildings that they are going to build isn't well received, the residence can kiss the mall goodbye.
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post Aug 10 2018, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 10 2018, 08:08 PM)
Tropicana metropark main selling point is the mall, seriously no one in the right mind would actually wants to buy an outskirt dead land project for such a hefty price if there was no mall in the plan.

Pavilion BJ is a sure win, the park 2 most units already sold off and it is set to release only after 2021. The 2019 park sky residence already almost sold off.

I'm not kidding, if they are confident with their plan, why would they want to sell Phase 4 & 5 to MCT? Think about it, if they are going to spearhead their mall, the Phase 4 & 5 are goldmine to them (not just it is closer to the mall, the demand would be there when people knows for sure that the more is going to be built). I'm pretty sure they are not confident with their master plan anymore and also has a low chance of building the mall hence sold off the 2 phase to reduce the risk.
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Erm...

At least I wasn't attracted by the mall...

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post Aug 10 2018, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 10 2018, 08:35 PM)
You bought a unit isit?
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Yes and...?

When I approached the SA 3 years ago, she said there was no promise regarding the mall. The mall was just the initial idea only.
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post Aug 11 2018, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 11 2018, 12:26 AM)
What you bought (Paloma/pandora/paisley) if you don't mind me asking? How many sqf and how much?

The mall is part of the master plan. I know they did not "guarantee" that the mall will be built but that was actually the main selling point to most investors.
http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...ning-community/
I don't know when was the last time you've been to the project site but few months ago when I was there, the sentral park looks pretty bad and the pond is dirty and you can actually smell something foul when you are there. Perhaps they are going to renovate the whole park to at least look more like what they have visioned but for now and for the current residences, I'm not sure what what is the exciting part of staying there since there is nothing within walking distance, the environment is not appealing and there is no convenience in terms of transportation.
Anyway,

This was the initial plan
https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/sto...-propsocial.png

This is their updated plan
http://www.tropicanametropark.com.my/landing/
It seems to indicate that they are moving away from building the mall and focusing on developing on commercial units.
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Sorry, the SA did not emphasize the shopping mall at the time I booked.
I'm not sure why it became the selling point to you and other investors.

BUT the central park and the GEMS have been the selling points from before till now.

There is a trick there in the masterplan.
If you see back the master plan, it only mentioned "proposed". You can always change your proposed plan.
At least the word "proposed" is not there in those confirmed developement.
This was what I was told.

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post Aug 11 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 11 2018, 02:06 PM)
Of course they are not going to emphasize the mall cause it is just "proposed" not guaranteed. That is also the reason why people are gambling right here... if you ask any investors or experts... they will definitely say Tropicana metropark is a gamble and the trump card there is the success of the mall. Just tell me this, what makes you think the value of your property will go up if the traction there remains?

GEMS is not even a selling point for most investors. Sure you might say you can rent out to expat etc. but expat would not want to rent a place with little appeal and far from any commercial hub hence that is what tropicana wanted to do, to make its own self sustaining "township". The success of GEMS is also questionable since the location/area is not "high class" but barely lower and middle class (which is again, tropicana was banking on developing that area to be its own sustaining "township", which includes commercial complex & offices)

The Central Park is a selling point? If it is, it is definitely not a good one for now cause that is the thing that turned me off the most when I visited that place not long ago.
You haven't tell us what project you bought, how many SQF and how much..
*Just to add, the main selling point for metropark I believe was the federal highway bridge, abolish of the toll & commercial. So far they've met 2 out of 3 hence it is not like the project is a failure nor is it a success hence it is still at a gambling stage.
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If you want to query, anything is questionable.
Many years ago, ppl considered Bandar Utama as forest. And what it has been now?
And what about Kota Damansara?
There is no point classify locations/areas by its classes.

GEMS is just an international school. Its another campus is in Simpang Ampat, Penang (I hope you have heard of this place, as its location is also considered ulu as well, a newly developed township but still with pigshit smell in the air especially during dawn and dusk. Nothing is there as well). So far they are doing well.

Tropicana has yet to introduce commercial and offices in this area. The whole township takes at least 10 years to develop. This was emphasized during the initial launch (if you have not missed the point). It's just matter of time. And, the abolish of toll was never been part of the promotion. It was a coincidental.

What I have bought has nothing to do with you at all, and none of your business. (You don't come with good intention. Why should I tell you?)
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post Aug 12 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 12 2018, 01:40 AM)
It's ok if you don't want to tell, just asking that's all.

Your reply seems fine till your ending message. I sense hostility there. I'm not here to give you moral support, just an open discussion for a debate. It's not a right or wrong sort of reply but I'm just giving you my view on this. If you want people to sweet talk you just because you've bought the property then fine, our conversation ends here.
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Owners are happily discussing in our own whatsapp group.
Do you know why owners left this room?
That's because THERE ARE PPL LIKE YOU KEPT GIVING NEGATIVE COMMENTS HERE!
If you don't want ppl to be hostile to you, check back your own comments.
If you want good location, go to KL downtown, Bangsar, Mount Kiara or even some locations in PJ or any hot locations and just don't come here.
Of cause you definitely need to have a lot of money.
If you have so much money, whay waste your time on other projects that you look down? This is pure evil!
If you don't have and kept giving negative comments, then I wish you very good luck!

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post Aug 12 2018, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 12 2018, 10:02 AM)
there is reason why tropicana hasnt built the mall, bcos they are not confident that the mall will be the major draw card. and they have sold portion of the land to another developer. That speaks loudly on their commitment on TMP.
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Malls are abundent in Klang Valley. No one can guarantee new malls can do well.
One good example is Glo Damansara.
PPl used to think this mall can do well, but now it is struggling.
Especially when shops are going online now...
I would be more worried if there is a mall, but unoccupied.

Come back to TMP, there are rumours saying there will be no more mall here, but a grocer/supermarket. Not sure how true is this.
Nevertheless, Aeon is so near and there are 2 speedmarts, mall or no mall is not the matter now.
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QUOTE(KimiLau @ Aug 12 2018, 11:41 AM)
Why so serious in Lowyat forum??? Can't accept negative comments or just butthurt....  bangwall.gif  brows.gif

btw, you are the one who started to make insulting comment towards JasonLeeX....Why bother with the comments if you are so confident with your property...or you  just depressed due to the lack of demand with TMP
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Simply... I like this way... You can assume me as a bigot if you want.
if want to joke around, I'd suggest go to kopitiam rather than talk here...

sounds like to me someone wanna get some good development, too picky on locations and want high class area, yet no money. Kind of sour grapes...
Seriously, Subang is not your cup of tea if you want a "high class" area (not sure which definition this "high class" is referred to)...

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post Aug 12 2018, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 12 2018, 07:00 PM)
First of all, don't put my words in your mouth.

You are the only joker around here. You can't refute or debate then resort to personal attacks.

Sorry to tell you that Subang is prime area but your metropark does not fit within that category despite being part of subang. #47500 = high class, subang hi-tech industrial park = low class factory area

Anyhow some people does not mind about property appreciation or rental or anything else and that they just want to BUY and STAY without thinking about anything else. Hence, I wish you all the best.

You did not want to tell me what unit you bought but just wanted to say hopefully you din't get Paloma la cause it is a double whammy. Even if you don't talk about rent, property appreciation etc. Buying paloma just for staying also seems very sui...

That's because Paisley has just begun building and paloma is situated in very close proximity. Can't imagine the dust and debri flying all over when it reach to middle floor of the construction, not considering the noise if you are on leave during the weekdays. For those who bought the studio units... triple whammy and I hate to see their face when they move in cause those units are facing north upwards as shown on the plan which means dust will blow to them first. Suffer till the project completes...  sweat.gif
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Wow... looks like someone just got enraged here.
I tot someone said our conversation ended? Sore got tickled?
If you look down so much on this project, why bother wasting your time?

FYI, Paisley's foundation already done since early of the year... And all works will be stopped at 5pm sharp during weekdays, 1pm on Saturday. No work on Sunday or any public holidays. It will go off, so no worries.

Studio units are facing south and East. No construction there. Perhaps what you mentioned is 2BR. Putting tinted on windows like what ppl did on their cars can drastically reduce the heat at least I would say 50%. So not much of the issue.

Of course there will be dust everywhere during the construction. But, so what? It is expected for earlier phases. One goot thing about earlier phases is the price will be cheaper than later phases. This is definite.

Also, TMP's postcode is 47500. The area you despised is within your so-called "high class" area (This postcode is according to MPSJ's assessment). Too bad to let you down again.

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post Aug 12 2018, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 12 2018, 08:46 PM)
may i know the mall will be converted to what?
there so big plot of land for mall but no mall
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It will be more wasteful if the newly mall is empty like Glo Damansara...
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post Aug 13 2018, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 12 2018, 11:49 PM)
Just had to intervene again when you personally attacked me.

Just sharing information and views, I believe this section is not "TMP Fan Club" but a section to discuss about property and projects by sharing views, opinion and critical thinking/analysis. What I believe you are seeking for is just positive feedback and non factual feedback like "This project will have high capital gain/easy to rent/best project ever/So jealous that all unit sold out", which would be misleading to anyone who passed by this thread and seeking for actual comments.

Moving on, like I said, this is addressed to the public, you will go off doesn't mean everyone else intended to invest will. Just a food for thought to consider that's all. Well, you don't mind the dust & you don't mind the noise, I'll give you that, props to you for making this worthwhile.

When people talks about 47500 being the Prime area, They are referring to area highlighted in google maps NOT including subang hi-tech industrial park!

https://www.google.com/maps?q=47500&biw=192...dxXAk0Q_AUICigB
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So, Google map is correct and the local authority MPSJ is wrong?
Oh yeah... Google is always right and never gets wrong...


Did I even mentioned your name on that post?
why suddenly started to be so perasan like me pulak?

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post Aug 13 2018, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 13 2018, 12:44 AM)
Like I said, when people refer to 47500 being the prime area, they don't include subang hi-tech industrial park. The highlighted area is just to show you what is considered a prime area not trying to argue with you whether your postcode is 47500 or not. Jeez.. doh.gif
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But stil.....
There is no mentioned phrase as "Subang Hi-Tech" on my address...
Who knows this is Subang Hi-Tech anot?
Ppl only look at the address and not googling always...

And Google can give wrong info...
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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 13 2018, 12:44 AM)
Like I said, when people refer to 47500 being the prime area, they don't include subang hi-tech industrial park. The highlighted area is just to show you what is considered a prime area not trying to argue with you whether your postcode is 47500 or not. Jeez.. doh.gif
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But stil.....
There is no mentioned phrase as "Subang Hi-Tech" on my address...
Who knows this is Subang Hi-Tech anot?
Ppl only look at the address and not googling always...

And Google can give wrong info...
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post Aug 13 2018, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Aug 13 2018, 12:55 AM)
Ok look, I'm not arguing with you on this anymore. You know I know that subang hi-tech industrial area is not part of the "prime area". If you insist on it, I'm not stopping you.. you can think whatever you want and it's also the buyer choice anyway. If they think a place full of factories with no transit and a hardly developed area as prime, good for them. Hack, they can call a house in the jungle as prime area if they want but in the end of the day, when you have a hard time renting out or selling your property, then I guess you need to rethink you "Prime" area.
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I'm getting more and more confused...


You said #47500=prime area

Now that I prove to you that Metropark's postcode is 47500

Then you said it is referred to the one mentioned in Google Map only and not the place full of factories...

Tell me now, what do you think the areas below are:
https://goo.gl/maps/XRqF7NmXvrM2
https://goo.gl/maps/mChhstmnj7u
https://goo.gl/maps/6SmNU4QTQLr

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post Aug 13 2018, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 13 2018, 09:07 AM)
why keep arguing....

but from perspective of most of people.... this project considered failed....in term of execution according to (proposed) master plan, ROI.....

and...the future appreciation looks bleak...

anyway...we still cannot see what will happened in future.... but for sure...i wont gamble my hard earn money in this project... unless the price is lower to 4xxpsf
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Hmm... RM4xxpsf in KL/PJ/Subang?
Maybe you can get in some outskirts area of Shah Alam or Klang
Even kota damansara now it’s more than 1k psf d...



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post Aug 13 2018, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 13 2018, 09:05 AM)
I worked at Subang Hi tech many many many moons ago and the official address is Shah Alam.

but I didn't know that this ex TMP aka cheong hwa picture tube was under subang and freehold until TMP was launched.

just wanna know, from SS19, there is no through road to this TMP rite currently?

last time only motorbike can illegally crossed over to subang from subang hi Tech area.
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Only got a road to USJ
Technically it’s a bit difficult to link to ss19

It’s a bit difficult to say which is under mpsj and which is under mbsa. Only when you pay assessment that’s the time you know the area is under which council. The opposite taman till the speed mart is also under mpsj jurisdiction (you can see the mpsj community signboard there).
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post Aug 13 2018, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 13 2018, 12:40 PM)
taiko,

lelong unit prices in TMP already dropped to 5xxpsf lioa loh.....

i believe once it dropped below 500psf, eager bidders will bid it up above 500psf to win bid.
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You mean the one posted earlier?


That’s bumi lot, sailou (not sure if you are)

Unless you have bumi status, just forget about it...

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post Aug 13 2018, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 13 2018, 02:06 PM)
TMP is FREEHOLD, bumi status not applicable.
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No need state consent for the transfer and proof of low demand etc?
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post Aug 13 2018, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 13 2018, 07:22 PM)
If its a normal freehold, 1st hand bumi got discount  no restriction in selling.

There is no bumi quota for freehold unless its a restrictive freehold macam bukit jalil and cyberjaya.

If low bumi demand developer needs to get consent from authority to release more units to non bumi.
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Then why are all the aution sites still mentioning either "Bumi only" or "Bumi lot"?
some conspiration to bring down the price?

https://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...un-fai-28496924
http://www.auctionlist.com.my/auction/?&pg...d=230915109139&
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post Aug 13 2018, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 13 2018, 08:03 PM)
To be honest i dont know why auctioj houses stated bumi only.
Unless its the restriction freehold but subang shouldnt have such restriction.

Sometimes auction houses also prawn head de.
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Any way to find out if there is restriction on this unit?

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