Aiyoyo dude, we are talking on the property but you start to make insulting comments again      still butthurt eh

Its ok, i feel you man...bleeding monthly, cant rent or sell...kikiki

Btw,  TMP is not really located at subang leh...batu tiga to be precised

I'm curious about this as well, even the sales gallery is using 40000 postcode. Surrounding area also uses 40000/40150 postcode but for some reason, the buildings within the metropark are 47500. If I'm not mistaken, Chunghwa Picture Tubes (M) Sdn Bhd was using 40000 postcode as well. It seems like Tropicana somehow specially requested to change the metropark postcode to 47500. But it is a good move though in my opinion cause it will be administered by MPSJ, which is better than MPSA.

I believe google still showing the "Original" 47500 postcode occupiers, which is considered the "prime" area (but in my opinion the prime part cuts off for the bottom part after monash uni, which means the prime factor extends from SS19 till PJS9). sjr got a little excited there thinking that a location can become prime just because they hold the postcode.

Truth be told, I used to think Subang was not a prime location cause I thought prime location means close proximity to KL when I was new to the property world.

But after much research from this forum, advises from investors as well as googling. Prime location basically means

A location that excels in Transportation, wealth, regeneration of projects and area feature. The original 47500 occupiers fulfilled all the criteria considering the abundance of successful malls/educational facilities/medical facilities/transits etc.

If you want to narrow it down, SS15/16 would considered prime as well as the area around sunway pyramid. You can't deny a place whereby there is a hugely successful mall, BRT, huge and expensive hospital, developing office towers, LRT/MRT, renowned universities etc. within close proximity being a prime area.

Like I said, Batu tiga/subang industrial park does not have ANY of the characteristic, being located in a factory loaded area on top of low end residential surroundings and no features within close proximity at all, let alone talking about transit. Hence, no one would consider that location to be prime. What Tropicana is trying to do is to make that area PRIME hence its own hospital, school, commercial and mall (which all are high end luxury projects, not just some run in the mill school or hospital) but the sad thing is they are failing to do according to what was set out in the masterplan.
Source for "prime location" definition :
https://www.galliardhomes.com/investor-info...in-london-prime

For bandar sunway
Mall - Sunway Pyramid
Transport - BRT and Rapid bus (good enough to bring you to the nearest LRT at least or to travel around SJ)
Hospital - Sunway Medical Centre
Developing office towers - the pinnacle sunway as well as other proposed office tower project nearby
University - Monash/Sunway
For SS15/16
Mall - Subang Parade/Empire/Big Aeon (sure they are not hugely successful but that area is developing and SJCC sime is planning to build a mall there called the union place... once traction gained, I believe SP/Empire/Aeon would be more crowded...some people here already argued that SP is doing extremely well but I disagreed  even though I don't go there often)
Transport - LRT/MRT
Hospital - SJMC.. it is huge compared to most hospital like colombia or assunta
Developing office towers - UOA  Business Park
Universities - Inti

No one  will deny SS15/16 being a commercial hub of subang with the abundance of shops around SS15. Let alone a mini mall "SS15 courtyard". More developments coming by Sime and also SOHO etc the GRAND SS15 by some other developer. Noticed the Subang Avenue even done up renovation for its commercial floors. It is definitely rejuvenating and regenerating to say the least.

A successful mall is key to create traction, that's all I can say.

No comment on your view towards public transportation pricing.

Dude, UOA Business Park is literally a bridge away from Subang LRT. Foot traffic doesn't just stop just because your post code changed. It is still close proximity to SS16/SS15 area. Unless there is no bridge then YES, you can say the UOA business park cannot be considered as a feature under the SS15/16 area since getting there is not possible by foot.

Anyway, I think we should not go on about Subang, it is far out of topic from "TMP" which is what we are supposed to talk about in this thread. If you want to refute on my points I brought up about TMP earlier, be my guess. Like I said, everything is subjective and based on personal point of view with some facts or unconfirmed information to back it up so just take it with a pinch of salt ya? TMP like I said is a gamble, it might be a bust or it might be severely successful 10 years down the road but my personal opinion about it right now is that it is indeed not meeting what was being set out to be and therefore not a desirable project to be considered right now.

Flyover looks Cheapskates. Small small narrow Macam cannot Handle heavy traffic.

Look so lousy, U turn also sempit like sh*t. Crap small flyover. Sibeh tot like kid race track. If you like to use just use it. Wakaka.

Just use this so call flyover today. Damn poor design. Give u one long stretch of bumpy ride. Then give you another sharp corner. Damn7 feel like Kampung road.

Although it is brand new. But the road is so uneven. Very very poor condition. How can someone drive under this kind of road condition and thinking they are heading to a so call premium development.

Nope. The road is unevenly paved.

Is this you?

https://scontent.fkul13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t...3e3&oe=5BEFF091

Kesian,... sjr must be crying hard now with his investment

This project is going down the hill from the looks of it.

When Tropicana decides to sell Phase 4 & 5, I already know the project is not doing well. I highly doubt there would be any Mall being built anytime soon and I highly doubt the commercial complex would do well in sales either.

The worst case scenario now is that plot of land that was planned to be built as a Mall might be sold off and if a factory is being built there....GG

The next few years would be crucial especially to see the take up rate for the few small plot of land meant for commercial.

I just used the TMP flyover and felt disappointed on its quality and design. Is there no Malaysia standard for road design & construction where builders should follow?

1. Road is bumpy all the way from the exit of Federal Highway to TPM.
2. Road is like roller coaster track going up down up down.
3. Road has a sudden 90 degree turn. I'm not surprise this will be a frequent accident spot. Who approve such design???
4. Road has no emergency lane.

Overall, this is a poorly design flyover. More like a third-world country standard. Lorries can't even use the road even though Subang High Tech industry area is just next to TMP. Wtf.

How do you know it is bumi lot?

You are not allowed to sell bumi lot within 5 years and this project just completed not long ago.

First of all, I'm not saying it is going to happen, it "might" happen since that place is an industrial place to begin with so don't get all sour butt right here. When a company is desperate and no longer has holding power, what also can be done.

second, who says you can't build any industrial building near schools or apartments? SMK sri utama surrounding is literally an industrial area.

Third, you do know TMP surrounding is also an industrial place right? less than 400m from pandora is a PLASTIC Manufacturer company. Across TMP soon to be build soho/commercial is literally a electronic manufacturer.

Not saying it is going to happen but not saying it wont either, just saying the worst case scenario. So don't so butthurt k?

Use your brain next time ya?

First of all, even if it is bumi and they are selling off at below market value, do you think it is a good sign? Tell me ... DO YOU?

second, there are non bumi lot being auction off like below

https://www.propertyguru.com.my/embed/listing/28419932

Show me the guideline please. Don't pull facts out of your ass.

the mall area is >500m from the school. Like I said, if it maintain as TMP, it will not be sold off as industrial but at the same time if the developer gave up on the project, it will no longer be TMP .... why can't you wrap your head around "worst case scenario"? which part of worst case do you not understand?

You havent answer me, if any lot including bumi lot being auctioned off... is it a GOOD SIGN or a BAD SIGN...

like I said many times already.. "Worst case scenario" do you not understand WORDS...?

The land sold off is phase 4 & 5 of the residential area.. NOT the mall...

http://www.auctionlist.com.my/auction/inde...d=230915108997&
FYI non-bumi lot being auction for pandora project
Restricted lots are given 7.5% discount for TMP projects which is pretty high by today standards, after reducing this and nett off rebate, it is doing pretty badly as stated by the others above.

You know it is pretty bad when there are a whole lot of units being auctioned off whether it is bumi or not so early after completion.
You are indeed a nobody who at the same time doesn't do much research and just know how to act like a kid