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zeusu
post Apr 9 2008, 06:36 PM

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the field trip is not called OFS1 right?
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Apr 9 2008, 06:36 PM)
the field trip is not called OFS1 right?
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what is ofs1?? they said that im shorlisted to go for a week field trip...some kind of exposure for us..than back to msia..thn c whether we can fit in to the environmnet or not...if can thn accept the offer..if not thn bye bye....right now they offer me land operation..i dunno is it good for my future prospect.......coz wat i heard here all like going offshore on vessel...dealing marine aquisition.....not much ppl go to land operation...scare that foundation in land seismic meaning i will be stuck into land seismic forever....and summore i dint heard many of land operation going on now...wat is booming now is marine operations rite???correct if im wrong..thanks


Added on April 9, 2008, 6:46 pm
QUOTE(zeusu @ Apr 9 2008, 06:36 PM)
the field trip is not called OFS1 right?
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zeusu...where u working now???and wat is ur job title??

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post Apr 9 2008, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 9 2008, 04:40 PM)
ya, agree.
RM4k is not a lot nowadays, even USD4k isn't a lot.....considering depreciation value of USD.....
usually they targetting Asian coz uSD4k to us a lot....but to develoved country people, that's seem normal.

I know someone working in Fugro, getting RM8k basic, yet to include allowance. He's pretty young, around 25-year-old.
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RM8k in Fugro? is he a malaysian? i reckon slb pay the most for freshie nowadays.


Added on April 9, 2008, 9:40 pm
QUOTE(kevinling @ Apr 9 2008, 03:45 PM)
am a newbies here....christine never know that ur so active here...just came around this website today......really learn alot about the industry now.....especially SLB.....

my questions is here.....i was offered a job as a seismic engineer from schlumbeger...will be flying to middle east most probably UAE for a week field trip b4 i get my offer letter from SLB....is it good that i joined SLB in land operation...n i heard that land operations is the toughest if im not mistaken....hope some1 here can give some opinions on that...the rotation is 6 week onshore..1 week office n 2 weeks off.....its kinda tough coz i will be alway flying there...according to the asia pacific manager...she told me that i must move to managerial position in 5 years times the most.....if not they will re--evaluate my working performance.....the paid is 4k per month is im nt mistaken...do u think that is a good offer????????????any1 plz help..coz i have alwaz wanted to become a pilot and have been to SIA pilot  interview but failed in final round...but nw in dilemma whether to accept this offer or to pursue my dream job.....

for ur info, yes im studying geophysics in usm...christine is my coursemates...we r the minority here...only 7 chinese out of 28 ppl.....congrates to christine again on ur offer by SLB...
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im still a newbie here... tongue.gif


Added on April 9, 2008, 10:15 pm
QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 9 2008, 09:38 PM)
RM8k in Fugro? is he a malaysian? i reckon slb pay the most for freshie nowadays.


Added on April 9, 2008, 9:40 pm
im still a newbie here...  tongue.gif
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KEVINLING, service company is a place for you to gain as much training as you could, specialised in your own study scope. its not necessary that u have to work in service company for your whole life. when you got enough experience, u can either persue your dream or move to oil company for better prospect/benefits and long term career if you like. We work to live, not live to work.. We need to find a place which u really feel comfortable with, which you feel worth it for you to stay long and which value you. But during the process, there's no harm to try out something beyond your imagination and experience it before leaving any comment or decision on it. The worse thing in life is to give up before you even try to feel it. Who knows, the working place might be sucks but the environment, teamwork, relationship between coworkers and benefits are really good and u really like it? smile.gif sometimes dont look at one factor only before deciding on what to choose, but look at it as a whole picture, because its always hard to get everthing all at once. There's one saying " if u couldnt do what u like, like what u do''. without job satisfaction, its quite hard for one to perform.. just be optimistic a bit... smile.gif and tomorrow will be better wink.gif

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O&G industry is very tough industry, not because of the physical environment, but the working environment. You always be at situation where you need to constantly improve yourself, perform, and get better result. It means that, today you can run 1km, but tomorrow you need to run 2km, and everyday keep increase and increase. This is the kind of environment that you need to face and prepare yourself with. This kind of environment will only make you tougher and faster.

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post Apr 9 2008, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(iDk @ Apr 9 2008, 11:18 PM)
O&G industry is very tough industry, not because of the physical environment, but the working environment. You always be at situation where you need to constantly improve yourself, perform, and get better result. It means that, today you can run 1km, but tomorrow you need to run 2km, and everyday keep increase and increase. This is the kind of environment that you need to face and prepare yourself with. This kind of environment will only make you tougher and faster.
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yes... smile.gif i agree with you... O&G is an industry that is keep on improving. we need to keep in pace with it by advancing ourselves as well..
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i work somewhere in the middle east, field engineer but not in western geco, one of the other services.

As for land operations, there's the "empty quarter" which everyone's talking about now in saudi, russia, middle asia (all the "*stan"s) and maybe the arctic soon...lol

basically, in your early career, like someone used to joke with me, you can imagine SLB like the army, just with better pay...you might even earn more than your manager...lol, but it's not that bad!

The good thing IMHO is that there's a fixed step programme, where they try to accelerate your career, giving you a list of what to achieve and a suggested timeline to do it, so you get promoted based on merit. The faster you finish the requisites, the faster you get promoted & most ppl don't wanna stay in the field for too long. Average time is 36-48 months before you get into office. Fastest I've seen is only 2 years.

Also, the international exposure is great, so far I've made good friends in all the continents & countless nationalities.

But since they are paying you to goto UAE to experience something new, I guess it's best for you to face it positively & then come back and ponder about it.

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QUOTE(zeusu @ Apr 10 2008, 12:30 AM)
i work somewhere in the middle east, field engineer but not in western geco, one of the other services.

As for land operations, there's the "empty quarter" which everyone's talking about now in saudi, russia, middle asia (all the "*stan"s) and maybe the arctic soon...lol

basically, in your early career, like someone used to joke with me, you can imagine SLB like the army, just with better pay...you might even earn more than your manager...lol, but it's not that bad!

The good thing IMHO is that there's a fixed step programme, where they try to accelerate your career, giving you a list of what to achieve and a suggested timeline to do it, so you get promoted based on merit. The faster you finish the requisites, the faster you get promoted & most ppl don't wanna stay in the field for too long. Average time is 36-48 months before you get into office. Fastest I've seen is only 2 years.

Also, the international exposure is great, so far I've made good friends in all the continents & countless nationalities.

But since they are paying you to goto UAE to experience something new, I guess it's best for you to face it positively & then come back and ponder about it.
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From what you said, then their system is very good. But i wondering what is the SLB's company structure running with? I mean pyramid system like hill high hierarchy to climb the ladder or another type of system since they are promoting all their stuffs with their system.
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post Apr 10 2008, 02:42 AM

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well, the structure's like several pyramids with ladders across them since SLB's made of alot of different services. At certain points of your career, you can get a "choice" to crossover to another division depending on your ability. "Choice" is subjective 'cos sometimes there are business needs which require your set of skills.

There's also a fast-track program for high potential employees, which they classify under a special group & these guys will be given alot of opportunities & all to groom them fast. And also, other career acceleration programs which identifies which area of the business critically needs manpower.

At the lower rungs of the ladder, there'll be alot of focus on technical training, etc and you'll reach a point where you need to go into operations management/R&D/production/sales & marketing/hr/learning centres/finance/hse/other technical roles or just choose to stay on in the field.

Once you've chosen the path you'd like to take, there'll be another pyramid again, and from here, it depends on how competitive/good you are to reach the top.

Anyway, internally, they have something like an interactive flowchart showing all the possible career paths, and you can choose what you would like to do & they'll try to fit it into your career path if possible. [this is in theory, i'm still too young in the company to know if it works]

Also, it functions as a tool to filter out those who don't see themselves suitable for any role and these guys will automatically cross over to other companies, etc.

They try to promote within since this business requires alot of knowledge about the field & our technology before one really knows what's happening.
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post Apr 10 2008, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 9 2008, 09:38 PM)
RM8k in Fugro? is he a malaysian? i reckon slb pay the most for freshie nowadays.
well, malay, malaysian smile.gif
after allowance everything, its more than RM20k/month.

pay isn't everything, if you not enjoying your work, you won't be long there.
Offshore work sometime its not about mental fitness, its about physical fitness.

Sitting in the shell looking at the ROV? for constantly 15hours? or 24hours if need intensive monitoring.

That's why they pay pretty well, for Asian it seem very good pay.

You should be able to hit 6 figure/month when u around 40, if u still with them whistling.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(zeusu @ Apr 10 2008, 12:30 AM)
i work somewhere in the middle east, field engineer but not in western geco, one of the other services.

As for land operations, there's the "empty quarter" which everyone's talking about now in saudi, russia, middle asia (all the "*stan"s) and maybe the arctic soon...lol

basically, in your early career, like someone used to joke with me, you can imagine SLB like the army, just with better pay...you might even earn more than your manager...lol, but it's not that bad!

The good thing IMHO is that there's a fixed step programme, where they try to accelerate your career, giving you a list of what to achieve and a suggested timeline to do it, so you get promoted based on merit. The faster you finish the requisites, the faster you get promoted & most ppl don't wanna stay in the field for too long. Average time is 36-48 months before you get into office. Fastest I've seen is only 2 years.

Also, the international exposure is great, so far I've made good friends in all the continents & countless nationalities.

But since they are paying you to goto UAE to experience something new, I guess it's best for you to face it positively & then come back and ponder about it.
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thankk zeusu....really know more bout this field now.... thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(zeusu @ Apr 10 2008, 02:42 AM)
well, the structure's like several pyramids with ladders across them since SLB's made of alot of different services. At certain points of your career, you can get a "choice" to crossover to another division depending on your ability. "Choice" is subjective 'cos sometimes there are business needs which require your set of skills.

There's also a fast-track program for high potential employees, which they classify under a special group & these guys will be given alot of opportunities & all to groom them fast. And also, other career acceleration programs which identifies which area of the business critically needs manpower.

At the lower rungs of the ladder, there'll be alot of focus on technical training, etc and you'll reach a point where you need to go into operations management/R&D/production/sales & marketing/hr/learning centres/finance/hse/other technical roles or just choose to stay on in the field.

Once you've chosen the path you'd like to take, there'll be another pyramid again, and from here, it depends on how competitive/good you are to reach the top.

Anyway, internally, they have something like an interactive flowchart showing all the possible career paths, and you can choose what you would like to do & they'll try to fit it into your career path if possible. [this is in theory, i'm still too young in the company to know if it works]

Also, it functions as a tool to filter out those who don't see themselves suitable for any role and these guys will automatically cross over to other companies, etc.

They try to promote within since this business requires alot of knowledge about the field & our technology before one really knows what's happening.
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zeusu...u work in SLB b4????how come u know so much bout SLB??? icon_idea.gif


Added on April 10, 2008, 3:04 pmyea any1 here can ans my question??

now im being offered land oepration crew...does this means that if next time im goin to crossover to other company...is it i will be send to land operation again or is there any opportunities for me to go offshore(marine operation)????i would prefer marine crew than land crew actually but SLB offer me land crew....

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try to check if other company using the same technology as SLB.
or else u may need start all over again smile.gif
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so envy you all get the opportunity to get an interview...
I have sent out so many resume to them but none of them replying..
starting to loss confident already... sometimes really wonder am I that bad compare with the others...

wish myself luck...lol..
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QUOTE(dylansiauw @ Apr 10 2008, 04:58 PM)
so envy you all get the opportunity to get an interview...
I have sent out so many resume to them but none of them replying..
starting to loss confident already... sometimes really wonder am I that bad compare with the others...

wish myself luck...lol..
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Sigh me also same fate, should have taken up geophysic. damn.
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Apr 10 2008, 02:42 AM)
well, the structure's like several pyramids with ladders across them since SLB's made of alot of different services. At certain points of your career, you can get a "choice" to crossover to another division depending on your ability. "Choice" is subjective 'cos sometimes there are business needs which require your set of skills.

There's also a fast-track program for high potential employees, which they classify under a special group & these guys will be given alot of opportunities & all to groom them fast. And also, other career acceleration programs which identifies which area of the business critically needs manpower.

At the lower rungs of the ladder, there'll be alot of focus on technical training, etc and you'll reach a point where you need to go into operations management/R&D/production/sales & marketing/hr/learning centres/finance/hse/other technical roles or just choose to stay on in the field.

Once you've chosen the path you'd like to take, there'll be another pyramid again, and from here, it depends on how competitive/good you are to reach the top.

Anyway, internally, they have something like an interactive flowchart showing all the possible career paths, and you can choose what you would like to do & they'll try to fit it into your career path if possible. [this is in theory, i'm still too young in the company to know if it works]

Also, it functions as a tool to filter out those who don't see themselves suitable for any role and these guys will automatically cross over to other companies, etc.

They try to promote within since this business requires alot of knowledge about the field & our technology before one really knows what's happening.
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It seems quite similar to my current company the SLB structure in which you have the opportunity to learn, explore and experience different field of job function. But my company dont really have the pyramid system, another word, no hierarchy but matrix system. You can explore into another department or division, of course provided you are doing good at your current job at first. Yeah, the business have so much technology, technical and other knowledge involved. It will take a long time to explore them and the world is keep on developing and advancing, seems like the knowledge cannot learn finish.
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 10 2008, 08:40 PM)
Sigh me also same fate, should have taken up geophysic. damn.
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me three,hahaha... din get any respond frm them... mayb my degree is not recognized by them... should go private college or Uni instead of form6 and gov Uni....
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 10 2008, 08:40 PM)
Sigh me also same fate, should have taken up geophysic. damn.
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wat course u took????no worries...they will call u later....try to call them up...or go to career fair for the interview..will be faster....


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QUOTE(hunterorz @ Apr 11 2008, 12:11 PM)
me three,hahaha... din get any respond frm them... mayb my degree is not recognized by them... should go private college or Uni instead of form6 and gov Uni....
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we r from local uni also...i dun think they will look on which uni u from...as long as u qualified...then theyl will surely call u up...minimun requirement is a 3.00 cgpa if im not mistaken.....coz mine wasnt that good also indeed....

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[size=7]yea... another thing is that they seems to be more interested in the students recruited through the career fair etc... fast respond and reply from them. Last time i sent an online appication form to SLB but there's no respond at all.. it is after around 2 months later they came to our uni, and i just tried out their screening process at their booth before i got the chance for the next interviews. We also got the result on whether make it or not in quite a short time, around 1 weeks.. So,for the fresh grads, i reckon, its better to show up at their booth during career fair ... smile.gif

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[size=7]yea... another thing is that they seems to be more interested in the students recruited through the career fair etc... fast respond and reply from them. Last time i sent an online appication form to SLB but there's no respond at all.. it is after around 2 months later they came to our uni, and i just tried out their screening process at their booth before i got the chance for the next interviews. We also got the result on whether make it or not in quite a short time, around 1 weeks.. So,for the fresh grads, i reckon, its better to show up at their booth during career fair ... smile.gif 
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yea...that's how me n Christine went through the whole interview...better to go to career fair n start from there...from our experience..the 1st interview will be a 5 minute one to one interview by the recruiting manager...you will be given some small pieces of paper...then u just take any n open it up...you will see your question there....for my 1st interview..i get a quite funny question....that is...What will you do if your boss is a woman????

i say oh gosh(silently) icon_question.gif , i tell the recruiting manager...i never encounter a female boss before..i have been worked in Sapura Crest before as a trainee Geophysicist, but my boss is a man...well, i think there is nth much diff between a female boss n male boss..i still do my work as usual...then she start asking me bout my experience in SapuraCrest....thn i said bla bla bla brows.gif thn she said...YES, MR LING UR 5 MIN IS OVER...you can check your result at 5pm (i interviewed at 2pm ---> its fast)i say thank you...
you know wat, my num that day is 14 which mean "must die" in cantonese..i thought its a bad omen but stimes dont be too superstitious icon_rolleyes.gif
yea, i still rmb the 1st interview the recruiting manager stared at me like wanna swallow me into her stomach..but i keep cool alto im scary inside...so next time if u being interview by her just keep cool..just my 2 cents

well, 2nd interview (the next day which is my bday _/3/08) which is an interview they called it group activity...its very fun..u will be divided into groups..n will be given an assessment..complete it in a required time with limited resources..my advice is act fast n try to divide the job among ur group members..rmb some1 must be the time keeper..wat kind of assessment i cant tell you.. wink.gif wat i can tell you here is winner got prize which is a pen drive for each of the group member...there are 3 person that day who assess us --- walking around holding a board and a pen...(made me tension)....my group cant achieve the requirements..but still u should stand to ur point...but make sure its reasonable and realistic....

3rd day which is my 3rd interview and also christine bday thumbup.gif hehehe..she is younger than me one day....this interview consists of 3 interviewer for our day whcih consist of the recruiting manager (lady) and 2 Western Geco Guy...well, i go in..sit down...n they start the interview by asking me to introduce myself...i say bla bla bla...whn i come to say my parents both are hair dresser..n suddenly she stop me...HOW DO YOU THINK BOUT MY HAIR??? (erhhhhhh...how come she ask me this kind of questions which is nt related shakehead.gif )well, i said mmmm..ur hair is a bit dry and you need TREATMENT and a CLEANSING TREATMENT B4 APPLY NUTRITION TREATMENT...then those guys start laugh at her... laugh.gif thn she ask me what is my hobby??i said i like backpack,swimming,outdoor activities, playing guitar...STOP!!!she said....OK LING...I FEELS LIKE WANNA SING NOW..CAN YOU BRING YOUR GUITAR HERE N I SING???I WANT IT NOW!!!!!(i say to myself crazy man blush.gif )i blurred for a while and continue back....erm, sorry maam, this is an interview now..i dont think its appropriate to bring guitar here and sing...how bout next time if i joined Schlumberger, i bring it there n let you sing???(Luckily i can turn it back laugh.gif )thn she ask me wat i have done in my Industrial Training..I said bla bla bla....she asked me what have i done in UNI besides study..i say i joined USM Lifeguard Corps +++ bla bla bla..OK, LING..CAN U TELL ME MORE BOUT USM LG??thn i said bla bla bla again....n she ask me what kind of challenges i met so far..i give an example where I faced a big challenge in my Lifesaving Class as Instructor where i teach 4 levels of lifesaving...students come from non swimmer background...have to trained them...motivate them..nt physically but mentally as well.......bla bla bla..ok this Guy (chinese) from western Geco he ask me...LING..INSIDE HERESTATED UR BLACK BELT 2ND DAN...IS IT THE HIGHEST???i say nope..the highest is can reach up to 9th dan which is my master..thn this recruiting manager again provoke me with her questions...she asked me..IS IT MEANS THAT U CAN CHOP A BRICK??..i say yes maam, i need to chop 2 bricks without support to pass my 2nd DAN...she yelled!!!WOW!!!!LING, I WANNA C U DO CHOPPING...CHOP THE TABLE NOW..FAST!!!!CHOP THE TABLE NO!!!!!!(walao!!!i really bengang with her la)...but still, i keep cool and blurred for a minutes..dunno wat to ans...thn continue back....errrr..sorry maam, i cant perform it now as i dint go for training for long time and Im not goin to vandalise USM property too...(FUiiiiiiiiiiiiiii... rclxub.gif )then lastly she ask me, do u have anything to ask?????i say yes...suddenly this lady STOP me again....YOU CAN ONLY ASK 1 QUESTION COZ U TALK TOO MUCH(i say to myself..im goin to fail this interview ohmy.gif )..i ask is it this is the final interview..then they say no..if u pass this thn u need to go to kl to have ur final interview....thats all..

Final interview on 31 of March (kinda fast)....drive all the way to kl...go to rohas perkasa...wait the Asia pacific Manager to come..thn she (did i mention SHE again??? hmm.gif really a lot of lady manager...hehe laugh.gif )she show us a video on land operation..how land operation crew do theier job etc....n she ask..ladies...do u think that u can fit in into the environment where it is a male dominant world????yea..there are 3 gals who go to interview that day with me...im the only guy...seems lik Schlumberger like to hire lady....all the ladies keep smiling...thn this lady manager ask me what do u think??wats ur feedback from the video??i say..mm..it ok..far more better than wat im thinking (actually i tell lies...the work it tough... icon_question.gif )thn wait my turn to be interviewed....ask the questions similar to wat they ask in 3rd interview...but more on ur future prospect matter....last bout 20 mins..finish...drive back to penang again...home sweet home...

hope my interview experience can help those who are goin to Schlumberger interview...AU REVOIR
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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 11 2008, 03:56 PM)
[size=7]yea... another thing is that they seems to be more interested in the students recruited through the career fair etc... fast respond and reply from them. Last time i sent an online appication form to SLB but there's no respond at all.. it is after around 2 months later they came to our uni, and i just tried out their screening process at their booth before i got the chance for the next interviews. We also got the result on whether make it or not in quite a short time, around 1 weeks.. So,for the fresh grads, i reckon, its better to show up at their booth during career fair ... smile.gif 
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Not all students would prefer to have interview during career fair as there are many other potential companies as well.
I have seniors who decided not to go SLB interview coz it took long time and missed out other good companies where their interview shorter in duration.

Somehow, it should be a good experience as said to be among the tedious interview tongue.gif

And kevin1mil, how you get the chance to interview b4 the career fair? just by sending form online? share with us.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 11 2008, 06:23 PM)
Not all students would prefer to have interview during career fair as there are many other potential companies as well.
I have seniors who decided not to go SLB interview coz it took long time and missed out other good companies where their interview shorter in duration.

Somehow, it should be a good experience as said to be among the tedious interview tongue.gif

And kevin1mil, how you get the chance to interview b4 the career fair? just by sending form online? share with us.
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is it u asking me???i send in my resume during the PGCE conference which is held in KLCC Convention Centre......thn later they send me email ask me to go kl..but later sens again a letter ask me to wait for them to come to career fair.....yea there are alwaz other potential company as well...stimes its depends on ur perseverance..if u really want the company..i think u dun mind the waiting period as long as u can get in...

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